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Old 09-04-2009, 01:29 PM   #1
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So..about this whole constraint thing...

Having ordered a 2SS in late June from a dealer who (supposedly) has allocation, I'm just wondering the estimation of how long this will set back the estimated arrival time. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm even assured that I will get the car at all.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:58 PM   #2
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So here's the deal. SS production is now only 40% of the total. What that means is not only does the dealer need to have allocation, they need to have the ability to place the SS. For instance, a dealer may be able to order 2 Camaro's in a week, but they need to have the SS constraint to place an SS order. Now that GM has cut back SS production, the 1100 hold times may increase for alot of those waiting. The production time will still be approx 6 weeks once the order is placed, it's getting it placed. Good luck. Let me know if you have any more questions.


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Old 09-04-2009, 03:37 PM   #3
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And that means.....? What does "have the SS constraint to place an SS order" mean?
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:55 PM   #4
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When do dealers find out how many ss allocations they'll have out of the total number?
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:08 PM   #5
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:13 PM   #6
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Having ordered a 2SS in late June from a dealer who (supposedly) has allocation, I'm just wondering the estimation of how long this will set back the estimated arrival time. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm even assured that I will get the car at all.
The question to ask is when do you have an open allocation. You get a monthly view of these numbers. The SS constraint, along with any others, will be given for each weekly order cycle.
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:59 PM   #7
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The question to ask is when do you have an open allocation. You get a monthly view of these numbers. The SS constraint, along with any others, will be given for each weekly order cycle.
This is what worries me. The dealer said he had allocation, but didn't know the allocation date. He also said of the three people on a list at his dealership to have a Camaro, I was #1. But how can that be? How can he know he has allocation but not know the date?
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:00 PM   #8
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And that means.....? What does "have the SS constraint to place an SS order" mean?
I read it as: basically now not only do you need allocation, you need a special SS allocation to have an SS built.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:02 PM   #9
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Every Dealer can place orders...1, 20, 158....... But only so many can be pulled for production (and those orders can be submitted with ALLOCATION at dealers discretion....). they could let a high roller willing to pay a little more than you slide in first - that's happened to a few on this forum.

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Old 09-04-2009, 10:04 PM   #10
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This is what worries me. The dealer said he had allocation, but didn't know the allocation date. He also said of the three people on a list at his dealership to have a Camaro, I was #1. But how can that be? How can he know he has allocation but not know the date?
Then they don't have "allocation". Simply putting it in the system is NOT allocation.

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I read it as: basically now not only do you need allocation, you need a special SS allocation to have an SS built.
Right now there is SS allocation, and V6 (1LS, 1LT, and 2LT) allocation.
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:17 PM   #11
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This is what worries me. The dealer said he had allocation, but didn't know the allocation date. He also said of the three people on a list at his dealership to have a Camaro, I was #1. But how can that be? How can he know he has allocation but not know the date?
We know how many vehicles we will be allocated through the 9/17 ordering cycle. Either he has no clue about the monthly allocation by week report or he has nothing for this months cycle. We will find out the next months allocations on or about 9/25.

For example, I had 2 cars for 9/3, 2 for 9/10 and 1 for 9/17. For 9/3, I was constrained to 1 SS. This fit my customers perfectly as the next 2 orders I had were an SS and an LT. I will not know next weeks constraints until 9/10. If you are in the mid-atlantic area and want to discuss, give me a call at 302-328-7000 ext 222. Oh, by the way, 1 9/10 slot and the 9/17 slot are still open!
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:22 PM   #12
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Every Dealer can place orders...1, 20, 158....... But only so many can be pulled for production (and those orders can be submitted with ALLOCATION at dealers discretion....). they could let a high roller willing to pay a little more than you slide in first - that's happened to a few on this forum.

Order from a dealer you can trust - order from one that has references.

I know it's just the way it is, but that's just wrong. I really hope GM does something different in the future. Personally I still and always will say first come first serve. All orders should of went into a central bank, and GM pulls the orders as they come in......That way it would have been about the customer, the way it should be.... IMO....
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I know it's just the way it is, but that's just wrong. I really hope GM does something different in the future. Personally I still and always will say first come first serve. All orders should of went into a central bank, and GM pulls the orders as they come in......That way it would have been about the customer, the way it should be.... IMO....
Agreed. Why WOULDN'T you do it this way?
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:37 AM   #14
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Anyone find out what part they are having supply issues with?
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:26 AM   #15
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[QUOTE=HeavyD;887684]Anyone find out what part they are having supply issues with?[/QUOTE

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:38 PM   #16
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Brakes would make sense. I don't think it would be engines because LS3 and L99 are different, trans are different too. Anything else exclusive to the SS's?
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:26 AM   #17
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What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:23 PM   #18
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:12 PM   #19
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Agreed. Why WOULDN'T you do it this way?
Put simply: Logistics for one, profit for two. GM is in business to make money. They want to sell cars in the most convenient way possible in order make the most money. If your first 10 orders are to Houston, TX, Glen Mills, PA, Juno, AK, Calgary, AB, St. John's, NL, Benicia, CA, Silver Bow, MT, Montreal, QC, Drew, FL and Saginaw, MI then you need to hire 10 different railcars and trucks to bring these vehicles from the plant in Oshawa, ON to the dealers, scattered all over North America. It just makes no sense. Sure its fair to customers, but its not smart business.

I'm sure GM would be all over "first come, first served" if we all went to the plant ourselves and picked the cars up
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In addition, Allocation was something that was designed by GM in conjunction with federal regulators (years ago) as a means to fairly treat dealers.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:19 PM   #21
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What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/
I think you need to talk to your dealer and find out whats going on!
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So here's the deal. SS production is now only 40% of the total. What that means is not only does the dealer need to have allocation, they need to have the ability to place the SS. For instance, a dealer may be able to order 2 Camaro's in a week, but they need to have the SS constraint to place an SS order. Now that GM has cut back SS production, the 1100 hold times may increase for alot of those waiting. The production time will still be approx 6 weeks once the order is placed, it's getting it placed. Good luck. Let me know if you have any more questions.


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Easily the most confusing thing i have ever read.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:25 PM   #23
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I wouldnt worry abuout it to much... Its only supposed to last for a few weeks anyway.



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Let me clarify something.....

The workers for this 'name brand' must by law be given so much time off......

SS will be a bit lower for a while -- but it'll kick back up in a few weeks.....
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:48 PM   #24
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What happened to the first-in-first-out we kept hearing about for the Camaro? This allocation business is beyond frustrating. I thought it was going to be put on hold in order to get those with long-order times (which now includes myself) to be pushed through the pipe. I'm 1100 status for over 3 months now =/

I feel your pain...
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We all just need to be patient! My girlfriend bought a new Mazda 3 GT a few years ago and we had to wait longer because the ship that brought them over seas capcized and wrecked all the cars! It was only about 6 weeks. I know its not the same, but I think when companies are on a hot product they will try their best to get it out!
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