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Old 10-29-2009, 08:18 AM   #29
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next, now that all but the alternator and fan are on the engine, i went to town figuring out how in the world to put the wiring harness back on. good thing i took Spike's advice & took pictures i printed some off & used them to get it all back on & where it's supposed to go.

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congrats buddy. glad its coming along!
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:43 AM   #30
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:33 AM   #31
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:05 PM   #32
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:48 PM   #33
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to explain the above...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49772


but now i have an even funner problem
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:26 PM   #34
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so the updates have been scarce because the computer with the memory stick reader is in the shop, so i can't get the new pics off.

the basic rundown is that everything was back together a few days before halloween. we've spent since then trying to figure out why it won't start. narrowed it down to the PCM not firing the coils. i tried the PCM in my recruiter's truck today - same no-fire situation. i'm sending the computer back in the morning.

a little anti-climactic, but that's it for now
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:21 AM   #35
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did you do any bolt on's to the new v8??? or just put it back in stock???
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:31 PM   #36
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:34 PM   #37
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did you do any bolt on's to the new v8??? or just put it back in stock???
wanted to at first - ya know, while it was out

but after all this time, i just want it in & running!!
cam, LTs, & possibly LS6 heads can come later
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:42 PM   #38
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october 23 2009
i only had a few hours to work today, but they were pretty productive

got the exhaust bolt fixed. once it was glowing red, the old one came right out. after it cooled off, the new one screwed right in with no effort at all.



once that was on, just a double-check of all the harness connections was all that stood between the engine & the bay
it took a little more finagling than the V6, but we got it in there



by the end of the day, the new powerplant was on the mounts, clutch lined up, & had a couple bolts in the bellousing.




as you can see, the pulleys need a good sanding



october 29 2009
finally found & bought my new a/c hoses & they cost almost half of what the original wrong one was gonna cost.



in the process of getting it all hooked up, i ran into a few interesting scenarios...

the harness has an extra a/c plug, which, i believe, is for vehicles with rear air and the connection to the accumulator is real tight on the oil dipstick





the new fuel lines were just a little bunched up, but it wasn't nothing worth pulling the engine back out & cutting further down for



the hose from the power steering pump to the steering box is a bit longer than needed



the guys at the parts store gave me the hoses for the 34" radiator





the top one fit anyway without creasing, but the bottom one just needed 30 seconds with a razor blade



me - being a big dummy - bought an intake tube from the junk yard without the rubber piece that seals it to the throttle body. oh well... this should work til i build a custom one



i went on & did the throttle body bypass while i was in there & just t'd it into the coolant reservoir hose that runs to the top of the radiator




as a note - 1/4" hose was not designed to fit on a 3/8" fitting, but that's the best i could get with a 1/2" on the other ends. it will fit if you coax it enough, though

after i was done with all that, i added fluids, bled the clutch, & ended up with this...







now...






for the moment of truth!!



battery charged, clutch in, key turned - all the gauges come on with that oh so sweet (for the time being) *ding *ding *ding...

key goes forward...





...





...





key goes back to run. key goes forward...





...





...





WTF?!?!?!


key off.


✓ all connectors...
✓ all grounds...
✓ all fuses...
✓ all relays...

ok... let's take a screwdriver & jump the posts on the starter - ok... it's starting to turn.

... long story short - we spent about 2 more hours re-checking everything & making calls to Current Performance & Wait4Me Performance to see if anything could be figured out...

it's closing time - nothing's been determined, so i went home and started this thread on 4 different forums. no definite answers



october 30 2009
first thing this morning, i get a call from Jared @ Current Performance. he's found something!! apparently, FSCs have some non-typical method of wiring the clutch position sensor. this was something they'd never seen before & accidentally overlooked when building my harness. all it needs is this little guy


i just stole it from my 4.3 harness

to go in the black fuse block connector, jumping F10 to F11



the fix is really simple - just pop the blue retainer out



slide the pins in until they click



put your retainer back in, purtificate it with e-tape, & you're done



now... to see if that actually worked...





clutch in, key turned - all the gauges come on with that oh so sweet (for the time being) *ding *ding *ding...

key goes forward...

*char rar rar rar rar rar rar
*char rar rar rar rar rar rar


yay... sort of... :(
at least it's turning

let's check fuel - pump's running, fuel pressure's definitely there (i didn't get the connector tight enough, so it was leaking onto the intake), tighten fuel connection

*char rar rar rar rar rar rar

now with starter fluid
*char rar rar rar rar rar rar





now it begins ... 3 days (spread over a week or so) of test lights, multimeters, phone calls to Current Performance, Wait4Me Performance (who happened to be at SEMA, so was almost impossible to get a hold of), stress, freaking out, yelling, almost cussing, OBD scanning, re-checking every ground & connection, buying all new plugs & wires (which i didn't want to do until after i seafoamed), and a whole mess of other things. :upset:

the final determination - the coil packs weren't firing because the computer wasn't telling them to, even though everything else checked out fine.



november 9 2009
after determining that the only way to really see if the PCM was the problem would be to put it in another truck, i had to find out how many people i know actually have a 99-02 FSC with a V8...





let's see...





there's 2.

one would've let me, but the truck actually belonged to her dad & he said "NO WAY!!!"

the other belongs to my recruiter. he said it was fine, so long as it wouldn't mess it up... from what the computer people said, swapping PCMs is fine between the same engine types... so we tried it. guess what... his truck had the same no-fire situation during the 3 long starts we tried. after putting his factory PCM back in, it started right up & ran fine. we killed it & restarted it again - same normal operation.



november 10 2009
computer is back in the mail for a replacement. now i wait...
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called Wait4Me Performance & the computer should be done today
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IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i can't even begin to express the pure excitement & joy i've been feeling all day!!!
just because i really want to get back on the road, i'll have to update the details of today a bit later, but i just wanted to let y'all know how everything was going.
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:38 PM   #41
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Awesome! Congrats, hope its smooth from here on out.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:50 AM   #42
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That's a lot of work, but looks like it's worth it, good luck!
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