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Old 09-05-2009, 08:45 AM   #1
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So I think I broke my Automatic Transmission...(10/22 update)

I did a 0-60 run yesterday, pulled over and shut the car off to wait for some friends. I start the car and we start to head out, but I noticed something strange while driving. While coasting, if I gave the car gas the engine would rev, but my speed wouldn't change. It was almost like I had the clutch down in a manual. So it would rev up, then awkwardly catch and lurch the entire car.

The car seemed fine under light throttle pressure, but anything even mildly hard and it would just rev. Another note, I couldn't reproduce this on the way home, it only happened on the way to the car show. There are no check engine indicators and I called Onstar to run a diagnostic and it came back clean.

I know the answer is to bring it back to the dealer (mine is in a different state, so I have to find another one I trust), but does anyone have any idea what this could be?
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:04 AM   #2
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Sounds like the torque converter, also may involve the shift linkage, if the shift linkage isn't fully engaging it lets the torque converter slip more.

another rare possibility is bent blades in the impeller of the torque converter, i doubt it though.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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It's toast! In my un-educated opinion.
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Old 09-06-2009, 05:05 AM   #4
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Had a similar problem with my A6 . . .

After accelerating onto I-95, in 5th & 6th gear the torque converter would not lock. Called On-Star for diagnostics, but no codes. They connected me to a tech that went on to explain that the problem was not mechanical, but software related. I pulled over, shut the car off for 5 minutes, restarted the car, and have never seen the problem again.

Now have my TCM tuned by LMS and have had no problems. I love chirping the tires in first, second, (and sometimes) third gear.

I have never been a fan of the "well I guess the problem fixed itself" answer, but that is actually the case for me.

When in doubt, have the warranty service department check it out.
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:21 AM   #5
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Wow, well that might explain why I didn't see the problem on the way home. It was absolutely scary when it happened though. I'll drive it some more and if it never happens again, I guess I'm good...
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:42 PM   #6
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With the increasingly electronic nature of these machines, we've got to start treating them like computers. For just about every issue of troubleshooting, the first step toward resolution is trying to restart the computer. Sometimes, that is enough to get all of the files working.
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:18 AM   #7
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Well, now I'm thinking it's not an electronic problem. I did a little test this morning. I put the car in manual mode and went through all the gears. There's definitely a problem with going from 3rd to 4th. I hit the "up shift" paddle and the car revs up in neutral for about 500 rpm's before actually shifting. This is light throttle; it's even worse under heavy acceleration. I think I'll be going to the dealership tomorrow.

Edit: I bought my car in PA. Can anyone recommend a service department in Long Island?
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:42 AM   #8
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Sounds like the torque converter, also may involve the shift linkage, if the shift linkage isn't fully engaging it lets the torque converter slip more.

another rare possibility is bent blades in the impeller of the torque converter, i doubt it though.
No way ... Stock stall way to tight even if you command a unlock you can hardly tell ...

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It's toast! In my un-educated opinion.
Doubt it unless defect ...

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Wow, well that might explain why I didn't see the problem on the way home. It was absolutely scary when it happened though. I'll drive it some more and if it never happens again, I guess I'm good...
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Well, now I'm thinking it's not an electronic problem. I did a little test this morning. I put the car in manual mode and went through all the gears. There's definitely a problem with going from 3rd to 4th. I hit the "up shift" paddle and the car revs up in neutral for about 500 rpm's before actually shifting. This is light throttle; it's even worse under heavy acceleration. I think I'll be going to the dealership tomorrow.

Edit: I bought my car in PA. Can anyone recommend a service department in Long Island?
What is done to your car ?
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:20 AM   #9
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Nothing besides exhaust diverters. Happens with them both open and closed, but didn't expect that to make a difference.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:30 AM   #10
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Nothing besides exhaust diverters. Happens with them both open and closed, but didn't expect that to make a difference.
Go to dealer TCM reflash
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:48 AM   #11
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Will do. I really appreciate the help

Edit: Do you think that taking out the fuse for the TCM might help (similar to the ECM fix)? I have a few hours during work where I can leave the fuse out. I won't be able to get to a dealer until tomorrow.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:48 PM   #12
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So I brought my car to HB Chevy yesterday. They first told me they could not reflash the TCM because it already had the latest program. Then they drove it for about half an hour to confirm my suspicion that the transmission was acting funny. He asked me to leave it so they can call GM and figure out what was wrong.

I get a call this afternoon from them telling me to pick up the car because they refuse to work on it. They said they should void my entire warranty because of my exhaust modification. Can they do this? What the heck does the transmission have to do with exhaust?

I need to find a dealership that knows what they're talking about. The car is drivable, but would like to figure out why the transmission is slipping/flaring and get it fixed.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:56 PM   #13
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Take it to a new dealer for sure...there is no way the exhaust could affect your transmission, you should tell them that. Find a dealer that is more performance oriented.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:57 PM   #14
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Oh believe me, I went through the whole Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, and they just answered with, "Well, we're not going to touch it."
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:58 PM   #15
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Wow that sucks. And no they can't void your warranty like that for some diverters so stay calm. Hopefuly someone can refer you to another dealer but that is rediculous.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:05 PM   #16
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They said they should void my entire warranty because of my exhaust modification. Can they do this? What the heck does the transmission have to do with exhaust?
Not familiar with exhaust diverters, but do know that the exhaust on the auto SS's is different because the auto tranny needs more backpressure to perform correctly. (learned from this site)
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:16 PM   #17
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Not familiar with exhaust diverters, but do know that the exhaust on the auto SS's is different because the auto tranny needs more backpressure to perform correctly. (learned from this site)
I can't begin to imagine how the transmission is dependent upon exhaust backpressure...do you have a link?
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:30 PM   #18
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A lot of time has passed since you first posted back in September. You are still dealing with this? Sorry to hear this.
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There are many computer updates available since the early models. Had mine in 3 weeks ago for updates.

I would do the fuse pull before you take it in. That was the first thing they asked me and were happy that I had taken car of it because it takes up time (couple hrs or overnight). They had my car all day working on updates. Didn't notice any change except for default settings and such. I also didn't have any problems either.

Find a decent dealer... those guys are worthless and simply don't want to do the work. Just be glad you didn't actually buy the car from them...
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MBRP does too. I was told it has to do with having a need for a little more back pressure for the AFM.
U might pm haveblue about who told em that.
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The thread thay I found that on is:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...mach-xl&page=2
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So I brought my car to HB Chevy yesterday. They first told me they could not reflash the TCM because it already had the latest program. Then they drove it for about half an hour to confirm my suspicion that the transmission was acting funny. He asked me to leave it so they can call GM and figure out what was wrong.

I get a call this afternoon from them telling me to pick up the car because they refuse to work on it. They said they should void my entire warranty because of my exhaust modification. Can they do this? What the heck does the transmission have to do with exhaust?

I need to find a dealership that knows what they're talking about. The car is drivable, but would like to figure out why the transmission is slipping/flaring and get it fixed.
This sucks Danny. I hope you get it fixed ASAP. I was hoping for at least one more get together on Sunday mornings with all the locals before the weather begins to turn.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:47 PM   #23
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The thread thay I found that on is:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...mach-xl&page=2
Where does it say it has anything to do with the transmission? Even if it did, we would see everyone with autos that have cutouts or diverters complaining about having problems. I think this is completely independent.

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This sucks Danny. I hope you get it fixed ASAP. I was hoping for at least one more get together on Sunday mornings with all the locals before the weather begins to turn.
Sunday is looking good so far. I'm sure we'll get together.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:14 PM   #24
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You need to find a honest dealer Just talked with my GM master certified technician ther e is no affect on your transmission from your exhaust. The issue can be internal or electrical, so diagnostic will have to be a little deeper than blaming your exhaust has no relevance. Is the dealer set up properly as all 2010 Chevy are now on a new diagnostic system that alot of dealers arent set up with yet.
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I phugging hate scumbag retarded dealers and service departments!! "Sir you changed the brand of tires on your car, that MUST be causing your A/C to not properly function." Warranty VOID!!!
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