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Old 09-06-2009, 11:52 PM   #1
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Question Z28 whats the big deal?

So im kinda new to the chevy thing i have always been into imports so im still learning stuff. I was wondering if someone could clarify or tell me the big deal behind the Z28 i have always thought the z28 model was not as good as the SS i thought SS was the top of the line in camaro models.
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Consider can of worms open.....

I will give ya the basics because someone is going to come in and let you know in depth.

SS is the top dog ( think drag car)...Z/28 is more road course inspired.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:14 AM   #3
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SS is the top dog ( think drag car)...Z/28 is more road course inspired.
IMO, the Z28 is a big deal only because there has been a Z28 for so long, and there is a lot of heritage there.

Personally, I don't think there will ever be a Z28 trim level. Z28 will be badging for a special appearance and/or handling package. Someday in the more distant future they may make a Z28 trim with a low-displacement, high-output, DI engine, but I think CAFE is gonna force all the engines to head that direction so I think this is unlikely. SS always has been the big bruiser in the Chevy line up. Making the Z28 a more powerful car would just open up a different can of worms from us malcontents who think SS should keep its top-dog status.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:27 AM   #4
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Z28 was originally a street legal race car, the SS package was originally an appearance deal and was later associated with huge power. Depending on what an individual considers racing, they will give you a different answer on what was better. SS's made for better drag cars but a Z28 would be better on a road course. Currently, General Motors considers the Z28 to be superior to Super Sport.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:29 AM   #5
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Little bit of history here....
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:31 AM   #6
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So im kinda new to the chevy thing i have always been into imports so im still learning stuff. I was wondering if someone could clarify or tell me the big deal behind the Z28 i have always thought the z28 model was not as good as the SS i thought SS was the top of the line in camaro models.
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Z28 was originally a street legal race car, the SS package was originally an appearance deal and was later associated with huge power. Depending on what an individual considers racing, they will give you a different answer on what was better. SS's made for better drag cars but a Z28 would be better on a road course. Currently, General Motors considers the Z28 to be superior to Super Sport.
In the Gen 1 the SS package was always the big HP car (350,396) and the Z28 was the roadrace car (302). So I guess its all in the prospective. I agree, but it seems as the Camaro progressed the Z28 became the big boy and the SS just an appearance option.
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Honestly I don't feel this question quite merits a facepalm, TJT.

It took me a while to catch on to why the Z/28 and its heritage were such a big deal to Camaro enthusiasts. I have always been a fan of classic American muscle, but never been a Camaro enthusiast. If you gave me a wad of cash and a time machine, I would roll back with a '69 Chevelle Yenko and a '68 GTO ragtop. Camaro just happens to be the best muscle for my money today.
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Z28 is simply the RPO designation that came up when the option package was originated.

People have loved different iterations, therefore the warmth for Z28.
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Honestly I don't feel this question quite merits a facepalm, TJT.

It took me a while to catch on to why the Z/28 and its heritage were such a big deal to Camaro enthusiasts. I have always been a fan of classic American muscle, but never been a Camaro enthusiast. If you gave me a wad of cash and a time machine, I would roll back with a '69 Chevelle Yenko and a '68 GTO ragtop. Camaro just happens to be the best muscle for my money today.
All in fun Dan. The Z28 is the Big Daddy. If you have questions, this is definitely the place to be. You have access to everybody here from those who are trolls and are here to talk trash(which I assumed wrongly you were..sorry) to people who actually work on the Camaro at the plants and developmental areas. I guess I just felt like I was hanging out with my buddies in at an alumni party in the Darrel K Royal, University of Texas Longhorn football stadium after getting off a flight, getting in my game gear, planning it forever, finally being at the party, tickets in hand, and a guy walks by and says" Football sucks".


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In the Gen 1 the SS package was always the big HP car (350,396 or 427) and the Z28 was the roadrace car (302). So I guess its all in the prospective. I agree, but it seems as the Camaro progressed the Z28 became the big boy and the SS just an appearance option.
I was taking a step back and looking at the history of the badge ... I suppose I should have been a bit clearer. Either way, yes the SS Camaro's were the ones with the big honkin' engines while the Z28's had those impressive little 302's.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:07 AM   #12
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I was taking a step back and looking at the history of the badge ... I suppose I should have been a bit clearer. Either way, yes the SS Camaro's were the ones with the big honkin' engines while the Z28's had those impressive little 302's.
You beat me to the punch, I was going to add the Z28 was inspired by the Trans-AM racing series and born from that aspect so it carries a very big stick or weight with the Camaro community. Much like Shelby does with Ford. The Z28 is and in my mind will always be the true racing Camaro that we all in the family desire.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:15 AM   #13
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No offense to the OP, but the tool is really your friend on this topic.
We've had quite a few threads on this. Seriously, check it out and you will find endless discussion on the issue.
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Overall, I won't talk for all the Z28 guys outthere, but personnally, when I say "I want a Z28" I just mean "I want a GT500 killer with 550 hp whatever its name". SS being the historical top dog? Ok, but that "top dog" seems way too "low" for me
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And in Gen 4 times the SS was TOP DOG.
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Z28 is simply the RPO designation that came up when the option package was originated.

People have loved different iterations, therefore the warmth for Z28.
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So according to some of you if gm does make a Z28. Due to the new 2011 mustang leaked numbers. It would be taking the current SS slapping better suspention on it and some Z28 lables? Then again taking the current SS and drop a LS7 in it and call it a SS?
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A Copo car was not an SS
I would say that COPOs were a different breed, though, since they weren't readily available to anyone, to the best of my understanding. Weren't all of the COPOs modified by dealers, such as Yenko?
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So according to some of you if gm does make a Z28. Due to the new 2011 mustang leaked numbers. It would be taking the current SS slapping better suspention on it and some Z28 lables? Then again taking the current SS and drop a LS7 in it and call it a SS?
no a LS7 will never make it in a camaro from the factory, it wont even be in the C7 ZO6 when that comes out
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I would say that COPOs were a different breed, though, since they weren't readily available to anyone, to the best of my understanding. Weren't all of the COPOs modified by dealers, such as Yenko?
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I would say that COPOs were a different breed, though, since they weren't readily available to anyone, to the best of my understanding. Weren't all of the COPOs modified by dealers, such as Yenko?
No! COPOs (Central Office Production Order) were a corporate order. You could actually get Pontiac paint or other GM related performance parts on a Camaro special ordered.

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I think Z28 is special because it's always been a Camaro only trim package. The SS package was always available on all of Chevrolet's muscle cars- Chevelles, Novas, Camaros, Trailblazers, Impalas, Cobalts (?)....so it gives the Z28 special meaning for Camaro's. If GM would have offered Z28 Nova's or Z28 Cobalts, it wouldn't be special. Thats my take.
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No! COPOs (Central Office Production Order) were a corporate order. You could actually get Pontiac paint or other GM related performance parts on a Camaro special ordered.
I 2nd that! Its true!! Dont you wish those days were still around ....
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No! COPOs (Central Office Production Order) were a corporate order. You could actually get Pontiac paint or other GM related performance parts on a Camaro special ordered.
Well, I guess I stand corrected. However, maybe I should have better qualified my statement by saying that they weren't "mass"-produced like the SS and Z28 models.
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