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Old 05-19-2008, 01:09 PM   #176
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More pics! Not bad, looks like I'll be getting a JL cleansweep though. Well, as long as it has a V8 and a 6speed, I'm buying the car but I hope they fix the speedo or give it a digital readout. I'd rather not have flashing lights in my rear view as the only way of knowing I was over the speedlimit. That might be a problem because this car's got the "i'm probably speeding" look. HEY... it looks like we'll have functional cupholders. , yes… cupholders! I'm sick of losing drinks while making left turns in my 4th gen.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:34 PM   #177
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Overall, looking good. I hope some of the radio/HVAC components are just testing for fit and finish. Not digging the dull gray look for the knobs and such. I also hope that the gauge bezels would get a chrome treatment as opposed to a silver painted plastic piece. I think if the main gauge cluster and floor mounted gauges had chrome trim rings, the appearance would just pop!
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:40 PM   #178
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Overall, looking good. I hope some of the radio/HVAC components are just testing for fit and finish. Not digging the dull gray look for the knobs and such. I also hope that the gauge bezels would get a chrome treatment as opposed to a silver painted plastic piece. I think if the main gauge cluster and floor mounted gauges had chrome trim rings, the appearance would just pop!
All of those things are sure to change exactly as you described it. Right on!
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:21 PM   #179
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still looks cheap to me. But getting better then before.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:49 PM   #180
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Thanks for the welcome folks...I too am surprised they don't have a simple flat double-din opening they design to, knowing a good percentage of folks are going to go aftermarket. The stereo's they're putting in the cars are gobs better than they were even 10 years ago so I tend to leave em alone, but if I were 20 (okay 30) years younger I'd be rattlin windows and pissin off old geezers crankin up Cheech n Chongs "Gonna go Downtown" ...Who remembers that classic?
I do!!! "Gonna see mah gurl...."

as far as the original topic: when car audio electronics are involved - there is ALWAYS a way to make it suit your taste. I'm willing to compromise and reverse-engineer if I need to, to come up with a home-baked ( ) solution.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:59 PM   #181
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THE FORTUNE OF ONE MAN USUALLY BENIFITS THOSE AROUND HIM
I am looking forward to the final product so we can all know what the interior is really going to look like. Think I am starting to get a little impatient. A buddy of mine is very close to getting his challenger which is making me think more about the Camaro

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Old 05-20-2008, 09:04 PM   #182
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YEAAAHHH new spy shots. interior is shaping up thats for sure. im liken it, keep it up gm not to much longer to go before the legend is born again(lol that was cheezy)
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:05 PM   #183
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the interior looks grate but i think that to get that "retro" look is that the auto shifter should be the horseshoe shaped shifter like GM had on the '67 threw '69 camaro but beside all that the car looks grate and I can't wate to see the final car
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:54 PM   #184
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the interior looks grate but i think that to get that "retro" look is that the auto shifter should be the horseshoe shaped shifter like GM had on the '67 threw '69 camaro but beside all that the car looks grate and I can't wate to see the final car
That shifter really was part of the cool factor of the automatic cars interior. And I know it's not retro, but I would be happy with a row of modern toggle switches for headlights, wipers, etc. instead of stalk controls, they could even put the dimmer switch back on the floor. GM seems to be getting their act together as of late, so whatever we get, I'm sure it'll be good looking and most important, fun to drive.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:12 AM   #185
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That shifter really was part of the cool factor of the automatic cars interior. And I know it's not retro, but I would be happy with a row of modern toggle switches for headlights, wipers, etc. instead of stalk controls, they could even put the dimmer switch back on the floor. GM seems to be getting their act together as of late, so whatever we get, I'm sure it'll be good looking and most important, fun to drive.

Yup! I'm not digging the steering wheel, but everything else looks like it's getting refined nicely. Hopefully the aftermarket will offer a wheel that will replace the OEM without disabling the airbag sensors or throwing PCM codes.

regardless, I'm sure I will be happy.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:56 AM   #186
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:44 AM   #187
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WOW that interior is sweet!!!
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:29 AM   #188
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A few things: for the people wondering about manual shifting/paddle shifters - Chevy's don't have gated shifters. GM has a few different ways to handle manual shifting, and each brand gets a certain style. Pontiacs use gated shifters - slide the shifter over to the right from Drive, and then bump it up or down to up or downshift. GMCs and Buicks use an up/down toggle on the shifter itself. Kinda weird, but it actually works and fits the brands well. Chevy uses typical paddle shifters. Slide the shifter into Manual (just below Drive, so you get P-N-R-D-M) then use the paddles. Each one does the same thing. Push and pull to up and downshift. I'm actually not a fan of this method. The ergonomics just don't work well for my hand shape and size. Its probably just me though. The Malibu and the Corvette use the same system. All those paddle shifters do is give an input into an otherwise normal automatic what gear to select. Its not the quickest shift, but there you are. We won't see an automatic clutch manual...yet...who knows what might come a few years down the road. Anyway, since even the Malibu has paddle shifters, and heck even Kias have them, I'd bet my down payment that the automatic Camaros will have them. Don't even dream they won't. Also, I happen to like the automatic shifter style, but I guess that's just my personal taste...

Ignition - I'm in the camp with the people who want a push button, but as it has been said here before, thats a discussion on another thread...

Material and build quality - I'm still shocked by the people who expect a test mule to have a high quality interior. Why bother spending that money on a test car that is just being beat on by engineers? I hope you people aren't foolish enough to think this reflects production quality. Sigh...

Speedo increments: Fbodfather said on another post they were going to adjust that before production. Fear not- your input has been listened to apparently. Cheers!

My one request: I'd love to have an ohmygod handle for the passenger. My wife will very much need one of those.

Wheels - I'm hoping I can get those smaller wheels on the V8. I don't care about looking Ghetto-fabulous with a bling set of dubs...bigger wheels just add unsprung weight, and kill the ride/handling balance and efficiency. In my experience 17/18 inches is just about the right balance. There is enough sidewall hight for a good ride, but they are also thin enough to not deflect much under cornering. A quality set of performance tires on 18s is just about the perfect setup.

Finally, I consider all this talk about radios to be a moot point... unless you're listening to good classical, all this modern junk just sounds like a bunch of noise no matter what sound system you put it through. You'd be just as well off using a 1980s era boombox on the passenger seat.
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:43 AM   #189
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1st pic lol right by the steering wheel ............

Who is SHUNT and why are they in the trunk lol
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:59 AM   #190
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Who is SHUNT and why are they in the trunk lol
He asked about the headlights. He should have known better.
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:29 PM   #191
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As obscure as this may be, am I the only one hoping for at least two cupholders in the car?
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:25 PM   #192
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He asked about the headlights. He should have known better.
Ha, good stuff. That will never get old. I bet we'll still bring up even years after the cars been out.

Ya know if anyone is worried about interior quality or attention to detail, go over to camaroz28.com and listen to both of the disciple pod casts. Some of the disciples talk about when they got to drive the IVER cars and they reasure us that we are getting a great quality vehicle.
(By the way, I love Camaro5 and I think its miles better than CamaroZ28.com. Just thought it say that. )
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:27 PM   #193
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As obscure as this may be, am I the only one hoping for at least two cupholders in the car?
No, i do too but i rarely use both cup holders for cups anyway. I usually use one for change and stuff out of pure laziness to put it in the arm rest. So not a big deal for me. Again, this could change for the production car and we could see two.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:43 PM   #194
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A few things: for the people wondering about manual shifting/paddle shifters - Chevy's don't have gated shifters. GM has a few different ways to handle manual shifting, and each brand gets a certain style. Pontiacs use gated shifters - slide the shifter over to the right from Drive, and then bump it up or down to up or downshift. GMCs and Buicks use an up/down toggle on the shifter itself. Kinda weird, but it actually works and fits the brands well. Chevy uses typical paddle shifters. Slide the shifter into Manual (just below Drive, so you get P-N-R-D-M) then use the paddles.
While that may be mostly true. It must not be across the board.

Our '08 Equinox Sport has the type of shifter you describe as Pontiac only. But you slide it over to the Left not the right.

I'd prefer this type in my Camaro.
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As obscure as this may be, am I the only one hoping for at least two cupholders in the car?
No, I consider cupholders a must. 2 for front passengers. That's all.
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Old 05-23-2008, 09:30 PM   #196
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No, I consider cupholders a must. 2 for front passengers. That's all.
My maro will never see a drive threw so I wouldn't care if the bean counters left them out. I would rather see a mp3 holder instead of a cup holder.
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While that may be mostly true. It must not be across the board.

Our '08 Equinox Sport has the type of shifter you describe as Pontiac only. But you slide it over to the Left not the right.

I'd prefer this type in my Camaro.
Really? I drove the Equinox sport and I don't recall seeing that. I'll take you at your word and stand corrected.
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Really? I drove the Equinox sport and I don't recall seeing that. I'll take you at your word and stand corrected.
I'll see if I can get a pic of it tomorrow and post it up.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:01 PM   #199
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The interior is really taking shape well. I just hope a little bit more color is added in places, it looks slightly...bland.
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lookin good. I was really hoping for a push button start as well, but who really cares I guess.
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