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Old 05-16-2008, 02:05 PM   #120
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Nice pix. Interior looks the same at the pix we saw months ago, but will less tape and dust on the dash. Overall look of the interior has my approval. Production may proceed.
I was thinking the same thing. Didn't we see some quotes from GM stating that the final interior would look different than the spyshots of the mules?

I'll search when I have some time.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:06 PM   #121
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Well I just saw this now..... you guys already filled up 6 pages, LOL!!!!

But overall from these new shots I can say..... I think the interior is just fine.... but that centre console..... I dont like it at all.... that probably the only part of this car that Im gunna have to re-do on my own.

But this Camaro really is gunna be something else inside/out.

Good work GM..... just change that centre console, LOL!
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:21 PM   #122
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3 Flaws

1) Shifter knob looks much to Infinity / Nissan Altima-ish

2) Why is the Archaic key-place still mounted on the steering-column? I thought GM was past this?

3) The air vents in the center are fine but need some sprucing up, they look almost last minute-ish.

Other than those smallllllll gripes, this is a huge improvement over the earlier editions we have been seeing. Now... if we could just get past the snoozy look of this test model. SO far, I am just bored with the exterior. I think its the headlights and lack of paint-flare which this body style obviously must have... Colors will make this car or break this car... Too bad gas prices are going to be 4.50/gallon before it hits the market... This car might be DOA if it can't get past that... Remember the Judge...GTO's death brought on by OIL/Gas problems....
The GTO Judge/all muscle cars were doomed by bad MPG, yes. However, they were also doomed by higher insurance premiums. I don't think the new Camaro is "DOA" if gas is 4.50 a gallon. The old muscle cars got about 8-10 MPG, not 20+ we will no doubt see on the new Camaro. I don't know about the rest of you, but this new Camaro will be my weekend or cruise night car, not a daily driver....especially when it SNOWS!
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:26 PM   #123
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I would love to see a different center console, and with a nav screen in it. This one is huge and bulky and uses a lot of unnecessary room. I'm not too sure about the speedometer and tach housings, but I don't think those are going to get smaller or change, , but it's not a big deal. I'm sure I would get used to them.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:27 PM   #124
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The GTO Judge/all muscle cars were doomed by bad MPG, yes. However, they were also doomed by higher insurance premiums. I don't think the new Camaro is "DOA" if gas is 4.50 a gallon. The old muscle cars got about 8-10 MPG, not 20+ we will no doubt see on the new Camaro. I don't know about the rest of you, but this new Camaro will be my weekend or cruise night car, not a daily driver....especially when it SNOWS!
Indeed. It costs less to fuel new muscle cars now then it did back in the day, once inflation and fuel economy has been taken into account. Though that may change at $4.50-$5.00/gallon.
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Old 05-16-2008, 03:55 PM   #125
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However, if the Camaro would get this technology for it's automatic...I'm sure they would opt for the pull-type paddles as opposed to these thumb-pushed paddles.
Those on the malibu are pull-type paddles. I thought at first too that you push them with your thumb but those things are just there to let people know which side does which.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:07 PM   #126
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Those on the malibu are pull-type paddles. I thought at first too that you push them with your thumb but those things are just there to let people know which side does which.
mmmm. You might want to check again.
The shift controls on both sides of the wheel do the same thing (there's one on both sides for asthetics, and in case one hand is freer than the other maybe? ). Anyways; on either side: you push for upshift, or pull for downshift.
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Indeed. It costs less to fuel new muscle cars now then it did back in the day, once inflation and fuel economy has been taken into account. Though that may change at $4.50-$5.00/gallon.
Back in the day my '69 Z/28 DZ302 got 4-6mpg city (cause my foot was usually "in it") and if you were really careful about 12mpg hwy. I didn't worry too much about it as back in '69-'70 I was only paying around 30 cents a gallon for gas (Sunoco 260) though I was only earning about $200-230 a week.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:18 PM   #128
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mmmm. You might want to check again.
The shift controls on both sides of the wheel do the same thing (there's one on both sides for asthetics, and in case one hand is freer than the other maybe? ). Anyways; on either side: you push for upshift, or pull for downshift.
wow, wierd. Thats news to me. That would get really anoying. Well thanks for correcting me.
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Old 05-16-2008, 04:42 PM   #129
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Have you ever driven a car with the gate shifter? I'll be honest with you...if you haven't...it's not that fun. In fact, I don't think it's fun at all...I think that if there will be any sort of "manual" shifting for the automatic...it'll be paddle shifters (the Malibu even has that)...I've never driven a car with paddle shifters...but I have driven one with the gate shifters...and I'm actually glad that this pre-pro isn't showing it...
Nah, you think I'm talking about Driver Shift Control (DSC)

The G8GT Tranny has 3 modes:
Regular -obvious...

Sport - Slide the shifter over to the right and the shifting is made more aggressive (lol... thats factory 'aggressive')

And DSC- when the shifter is in sport mode you can tap it up or down to shift the gears yourself.

I was hoping for this tranny because from what I've read on the g8 boards sport mode and normal mode can be tuned separately, so tuners are leaving normal mode more or less the same but tuning the sport mode to be an absolute street monster.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:22 PM   #130
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Nice pix. Interior looks the same at the pix we saw months ago, but will less tape and dust on the dash. Overall look of the interior has my approval. Production may proceed.


It looks like they added some pieces to close some gaps, took off some tape, and armoral'd. I wouldn't say these pics are anything shocking or unexpected. It's exactly what I expected and imagined from seeing the original pics months ago. I really think I will be pleasantly surprised and happy when I'm actually sitting in the driver seat. To put it into perspective before I bought my truck I Liked the pictures of the interior online. Once I drove it at a dealership I thought SH!T, I LOVE this interior and HAVE to get this truck. Then I proceeded to pretend that it was mediocore to get a good deal.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:50 PM   #131
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Vents are part of the interior and if it looks slapped together as an afterthought (vent rollers 1 inch from the vent left and right?), ala, the C/K series dashes of the 1990s, people's first thought is.. " What kinda Cheap.....?" As is mine. Minor Details, ducting issues, etc., exacerbate these issues, but c'mon... Ground-up design..couldn't be that hard.

I don't like annoying key-fobs dangling and bugging my leg/knee when I am driving. My Bonneville never had this issue as the key was on the dash. My Mustang reminds me of just how irritating this issue is.

Pushbuttton / Remote starts are just a thing of modern evolution, else they wouldn't have it in the Solstice.
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Old 05-16-2008, 06:58 PM   #132
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Nearly all Lexus Models, most Hondas, nearly all performance Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and even Hyuundai gets in on the act. The button uses a remote transmitter from the Key-fob in orderto determine who is in the car. This can tell the car all types of information about the driver, from settings of the seats, to controlling the position of the pedals, mirrors, speed-control devices, and so on and so forth.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:32 PM   #134
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anyone seen these????
Does that look like a short throw shifter to anyone else? w00t!
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:47 PM   #135
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Nearly all Lexus Models, most Hondas, nearly all performance Chevrolets, Pontiacs, and even Hyuundai gets in on the act. The button uses a remote transmitter from the Key-fob in orderto determine who is in the car. This can tell the car all types of information about the driver, from settings of the seats, to controlling the position of the pedals, mirrors, speed-control devices, and so on and so forth.
sounds like most of those cars are up-market from the Camaro. The prime competitor to the Camaro is your Mustang, which still uses a traditional key. Personally, I see pushbutton starts as 'gee whiz gadgetry' which is impressive to some but provides no extra functionality, adds a bit of cost (particularly to get the power adjustables to their preset positions) and does not fit the image of the Camaro. Thats just my opinion though. You are entitled to yours. To hear what others on the site have to say regarding push start for the Camaro, please feel free to visit this thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2812
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:42 PM   #136
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I really want the oil pressure readout to be somewhere NEAR the tach/speedo so I don't have to turn my head to read a VERY important gauge.

Or maybe I am just OCD about having oil pressure while my motor is running.

I guess I should be lucky to even have an OP gauge with numbers on it unlike certain other cars with a needle that points from "Low" to "High"...

EDIT: Those tires do not look anywhere near thin enough to be a 275/40/20 tires. I have a 275/40/17 on my Camaro sitting out front and my sidewall looks to be about half of what is in the pictures. Since I have the same tread width and sidewall ratio that is claimed, the tire should be same height as mine. It could all be an optical illusion, we will all just have to wait and see.

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