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Old 09-07-2009, 05:55 PM   #1
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Questions about Zaino Applications

When your applying it should you be able to see it go on? I did it yesterday and couldn't see it on my black car, so I put a second line on the pad and continued applying, and I could actually see something being applied to
the finish. But then it was hard to take it off, So I guess I put too much, maybe I didnt wait long enough?30 min

oh and the clay bar scratched the hell out of my paint, did 2 coats of z-5 yesterday and it barely did anything, looks like I'm gonna be doing ALOT more.

Here's what I did

Rinse
Dawn foam gun
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Wash

Clay while wet using 1 cap full of z-7 in 16oz water

Wash with Z-7

Dried with leaf blower

Filled mixing bottle half way with z-5 and squeezed 5 drops of zfx in, mix 90sec

Applied one line to pad, buttered it out

Began coating, saw first streak go on and didn't see anymore coming off the pad so I applied another line and continued 1 line per body panel

Removed with blondie towels

Repeated application and removal

Scratches do not seem to be dissapearing, what am I doing wrong?
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Old 09-07-2009, 06:03 PM   #2
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OK, let's see;

"Application" - dampen the applicator. Spread the polish (dime sized dollop - good for one body panel) very thinly over paint. Spread to where it seems to almost dsappear.

"Swirls & Z-5" - Z-5 will not remove deeper swirls/scratches. Multiple coats will "hide", but not remove. For deeper blemishes, polish area first with 3-M Finesse-It, of Zaino Z-PC, followed by acoat of Z-5 or Z-2, once blemishes are removed.

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Thanks Ed! Didn't see the dampen the pad!
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Thanks Ed! Didn't see the dampen the pad!
That will help spread the polish much easier.

Please let me know if you have any trouble with the blemishes as I may be able to help you out.

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Thanks Ed! Didn't see the dampen the pad!
Dampen the pad with just water or a mix of water and polish?
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Dampen the pad with just water or a mix of water and polish?
Just water.
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OK, let's see;


"Swirls & Z-5" - Z-5 will not remove deeper swirls/scratches. Multiple coats will "hide", but not remove. For deeper blemishes, polish area first with 3-M Finesse-It, of Zaino Z-PC, followed by acoat of Z-5 or Z-2, once blemishes are removed.

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Does Z-PC do a decent job without the use of a rotary machine?
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Does Z-PC do a decent job without the use of a rotary machine?
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With a Porter Cable 7424XP it will, but if you looking for something with a little more cut and finished very nicely then try Meg's M205 Polish with a White LC Pad then follow up with a Black LC Pad with the same product. It will
give you a ready finish for your favorite LSP.
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Moose, I have Z6 final spray & Z8. They both say to use at the "end" of the wax or to clean in between. I used the Z6 and it was just beautiful. I tried the Z8 and could not wipe it off. I had to respray with Z6 in order to get it off the car. Now, the car was outside under a canopy, but it was still very warm to the touch.

Does Z8 need to only be used on a cool surface? I think I was following the directions...

Thanks for this thread! I was NOT dampening the pad before applying the wax! I did 3 coats that way! Z2, Z5, Z2..then the spray. Same to the polished AL wheels

Only issue now is my $350 Ca car cover seems to be leaving swirl marks on the finish! Only noticed today in the sun. I am truly upset...

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I just purchased my zaino set and my car detailer suggests i use hand buffer to apply zaino products for a good heat transfer. He also suggested that he would apply it all for me...hmmmm

What would you all suggest?
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Well, thank you very much. (embarrassed)

And thank you all very much for allowing me to help. I'm not an expert by any means. I just enjoy passing on what I've learned and help my fellow enthusiasts in any way I can.

So here's to YOU ALL! Thank you!

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Absolutely!

I just touched up the hatch area on my brothers C6 after someone layed some cardboard boxes on it.

Z-PC removed every blemish, using the Zaino applicator and a very little amount of elbow grease. I finished by adding a coat of Z-2 and the paint looks good as new.
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Michael,

I've used both Z-6 and Z-8, and prefer Z-6. Both are great detailing sprays, but as you found out, Z-8 is a little more difficult to work with.

The paint temperature can have an effect on the ease of using either Z-6 or Z-8 also. It's best to let the paint cool before you do anything on it, re; wash, polish, or use a detailing spray.

As for your car cover leaving marks; do you apply a tire treatment? If so, this could be the culprit. Also, I'm sure you know this, but never put the cover on if the car is dirty.

I hope I helped with that info.?

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Moose, I have Z6 final spray & Z8. They both say to use at the "end" of the wax or to clean in between. I used the Z6 and it was just beautiful. I tried the Z8 and could not wipe it off. I had to respray with Z6 in order to get it off the car. Now, the car was outside under a canopy, but it was still very warm to the touch.

Does Z8 need to only be used on a cool surface? I think I was following the directions...

Thanks for this thread! I was NOT dampening the pad before applying the wax! I did 3 coats that way! Z2, Z5, Z2..then the spray. Same to the polished AL wheels

Only issue now is my $350 Ca car cover seems to be leaving swirl marks on the finish! Only noticed today in the sun. I am truly upset...

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I just purchased my zaino set and my car detailer suggests i use hand buffer to apply zaino products for a good heat transfer. He also suggested that he would apply it all for me...hmmmm

What would you all suggest?
I prefer to apply Zaino by hand only, using the supplied applicators.
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Absolutely!

I just touched up the hatch area on my brothers C6 after someone layed some cardboard boxes on it.

Z-PC removed every blemish, using the Zaino applicator and a very little amount of elbow grease. I finished by adding a coat of Z-2 and the paint looks good as new.
Thanks for the info. I went and ordered some Z-PC. I acquired a few small scratched while clay barring myself.
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Thanks for the info. I went and ordered some Z-PC. I acquired a few small scratched while clay barring myself.
Im doing the same
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That should work! Please let me know how it turns out and if you nede any help!

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That should work! Please let me know how it turns out and if you nede any help!

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Ed,
Is there a method you prefer for washing the cotton applicator pads? Also, I forgot to wash one of them after using z-5, so its no good anymore right?
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Is there a method you prefer for washing the cotton applicator pads? Also, I forgot to wash one of them after using z-5, so its no good anymore right?
I wash mine in the washer, using only detergnt - no fabric softener. Allow it to air dry after washing.

AS for the using it after forgetting to wash, if the back side is still clean, go ahead and use it. Then, when you're done, throw it in the washer.

I usually get several detailings out of each one.
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those of you scratching your cars when using the clay bar? Are you guys by any chance dropping your clay bars on the ground and then reusing them??? Haven't got a scratch from a clay bar ever.....
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Nope never dropped it. I assume the bar picked up some large particle off the car and it got dragged across. Its happened in two spots on the car.
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Michael,

I've used both Z-6 and Z-8, and prefer Z-6. Both are great detailing sprays, but as you found out, Z-8 is a little more difficult to work with.

The paint temperature can have an effect on the ease of using either Z-6 or Z-8 also. It's best to let the paint cool before you do anything on it, re; wash, polish, or use a detailing spray.

As for your car cover leaving marks; do you apply a tire treatment? If so, this could be the culprit. Also, I'm sure you know this, but never put the cover on if the car is dirty.

I hope I helped with that info.?

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Yes, thanks Ed. I will just keep using the Z6....

Yes, I did use Zaino tire application and I know that dirtied the cover. However, there were marks - like swirls - on most corners of the car. That superweave material for CA Covers is just like the GM cover - parachute material. It's very light and IMO, is hurting the car finish. Also, with a good coat of wax on her, there was NO way I could put the cover on or take it off by myself without it sliding right off the car onto the ground - getting it even dirtier. I'm returning that cover and they're sending me their Noah cover. I know it's bulkier, but I think that material will be easier on the finish.

And yes, I know not to cover a dirty car

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Yes, thanks Ed. I will just keep using the Z6....

Yes, I did use Zaino tire application and I know that dirtied the cover. However, there were marks - like swirls - on most corners of the car. That superweave material for CA Covers is just like the GM cover - parachute material. It's very light and IMO, is hurting the car finish. Also, with a good coat of wax on her, there was NO way I could put the cover on or take it off by myself without it sliding right off the car onto the ground - getting it even dirtier. I'm returning that cover and they're sending me their Noah cover. I know it's bulkier, but I think that material will be easier on the finish.

And yes, I know not to cover a dirty car

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Do not cover a dirty car?

So if I wash my car and put the car cover on, then the next day I drive it to work where it will sit for a minimum of 12 hours, I should NOT cover it because it got dirty on the way to work? Is that correct? If so, seems pointless to get a car cover then.
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