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Old 09-08-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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KenneBell and Whipple = New Supercharger Options Coming Soon

Both KenneBell and Whipple are going to make superchargers for the 2010 Camaro SS
KenneBell waiting for a test car.
Whipple Superchargers said it will be ready in 2 to 3 months

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Old 09-08-2009, 01:06 PM   #3
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Where did you get your information from?
From Kenne Bell and Whipple themselves
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:34 PM   #4
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There's also another TVS based kit being released very soon, within 2-3 weeks!


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Old 09-08-2009, 03:56 PM   #6
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they should come out when I get my car in.,. so excited
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:09 PM   #7
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There's also another TVS based kit being released very soon, within 2-3 weeks!


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Old 09-08-2009, 09:49 PM   #8
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Edelbrock?
that one is out already right?
still think whipple and kenne bell are better then the roots
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:43 AM   #9
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that one is out already right?
still think whipple and kenne bell are better then the roots
I'm definately excited about this. The TVS system is a pretty good advance over the older Eatons I have had. KB and Whipple should do good as they should be as efficient or maybe even more so than the TVS system. Either way .. this is very good news !

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Edelbrock?
No, Harrop an Australian based company. Very similar to a Magnuson kit, and will be offered in 1900 and 2300 versions.

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Old 09-09-2009, 08:09 AM   #11
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harrop ftw. they make the tvs 1320 for the lsj's.
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harrop ftw. they make the tvs 1320 for the lsj's.

That's correct! The TVS1320 really wakes up an ecotec engine,
judging by your sig, you could use one of each kit!

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someone explain the difference between 1900 & 2300..
its not displacement size because they say 1900 has more power..
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someone explain the difference between 1900 & 2300..
its not displacement size because they say 1900 has more power..
It is displacement. A 1900 could make more power on an otherwise stock car but has less potential than the 2300 with supporting mods.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:55 PM   #15
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It is displacement. A 1900 could make more power on an otherwise stock car but has less potential than the 2300 with supporting mods.
oh weird..
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:17 PM   #16
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There's nothing a 2300 won't do better on a 6.2L motor vs a 1900. A 5.3L truck engine may be OK with a 1900.

Are there really KB's and Whipples out there, or are they like Bigfoot? I've heard of them supposedly being available for a while, but have never seen one on an LS motor. Haven't seen Bigfoot either.
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Whipple has some info of their supercharger for the 2010 Camaro on their website. Sounds very good 2.9 Liters with what they claim is the "the biggest aluminum air-to-water intercooler for any of the LS series engines". They also say it will have a front fed air inlet which sounds good as well.

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1243



I have followed some of Kenne Bells olders supercharger developments and they seem to take a long time to get something out to the public. Their website doesn't have anything about the 2010 Camaro on it. I know they make most of their money from Fords, but they make a good product so it will be interesting to see if they really do put something out there for the Camaro.
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kenne bell has kits for ls2's
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:30 PM   #19
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Whipple has some info of their supercharger for the 2010 Camaro on their website. Sounds very good 2.9 Liters with what they claim is the "the biggest aluminum air-to-water intercooler for any of the LS series engines". They also say it will have a front fed air inlet which sounds good as well.

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/...sp?ProdID=1243



I have followed some of Kenne Bells olders supercharger developments and they seem to take a long time to get something out to the public. Their website doesn't have anything about the 2010 Camaro on it. I know they make most of their money from Fords, but they make a good product so it will be interesting to see if they really do put something out there for the Camaro.
Nice find.. don't know why Whipple didn't just send me that link haha
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:07 AM   #20
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someone explain the difference between 1900 & 2300..
its not displacement size because they say 1900 has more power..
Its actually all about efficiency. A smaller blower can work more efficiently on a smaller engine. In other words, a 1900 is almost perfectly matched in size to an LS3 (or L99) , in terms of blower output at a given boost level. This makes the 1900 able to produce more power at the same boost level as the 2300 would on that engine. Now if the engine size were to increase to 427 ci, then the 2300 becomes more properly matched to engine size, which allows it to work more efficiently.

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someone explain the difference between 1900 & 2300..
its not displacement size because they say 1900 has more power..
The 2300 is larger and has more potential. You could turn up the boost (with supporting mods ofcoarse) and it will not fall flat on its face at a certain boost level that the 1900 will. You may see a little more LOW end with the 1900 vs the 2300 at low boost levels.

For the LS3 with stock internals .. either one will be fine. If you are going to go forged internals and turn up the boost, go with the 2300.

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at what point on this engine do u need forged internals.. seeing 550wHP on stock bottom end.. even seen one shop making 601wHP.. I still have no clue what stock internals good for.. think someone said injectors max out at 550wHP and fuel pump good for like 575wHP..
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at what point on this engine do u need forged internals.. seeing 550wHP on stock bottom end.. even seen one shop making 601wHP.. I still have no clue what stock internals good for.. think someone said injectors max out at 550wHP and fuel pump good for like 575wHP..
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With the TVS kit, you get bigger injectors and fuel pump upgrades engineered to work with the blower. They are good to at least 672rwhp (#'s on my LS3 powered vette). Stock internals are good at different levels depending on what you do with your car. If you beat on it constantly, and your tune isn't spot on, 500 might be the limit. My vette makes big power on moderate boost. LS3's breathe really well. Add a good blower cam and a free flowing exhaust and you don't need big boost to make big power. I expect it to live a long while. It's not my daily driver and an engine failure would not drive me to bankruptcy. You can pick your level of risk (hp) you're willing to accept. The TVS2300 works well at 450 and can do 700+ easily if that's your goal.

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Old 09-10-2009, 06:16 PM   #24
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Check out what KB twinscrew does for the Stang. http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...gt05-06_3v.htm



A magazine writer who recently test drove our new supercharged ‘05 stock Mustang had this to say: “The Kenne Bell 8 psi kit is a ghostly quiet wickedly powerful over the top 500HP torque monster that runs on 91 octane. Like any good supercharger kit, it makes great peak power, but what’s really unique about the Twin Screw is all that seat pinning low and mid range power it generates. There is no feeling of supercharger boost lag at any rpm. Then they installed their 600HP 13 psi “max street” pulley with no other changes except the addition of 100 octane fuel. That almost doubled the HP to the rear tires. Ford and Kenne Bell did something right on this engine and car because this thing had stock exhaust and manifolds, throttle body, ignition etc. The only mods were the supercharger kit and Centerforce clutch. Will the engine hold up? I don’t know, but there’s another 11 psi left in pulleys. If what these guys claim is true (15HP per psi boost) . . . . !”

“What makes the kit so much fun to drive is the torque curve, which exceeded 400 ft. lbs. from 2500-5700 (9 psi kit).” Richard Holdener “Building 4.6/5.4L Ford Horsepower” SA Books

After installing the Kenne Bell supercharger on their ‘05 Mustang, dynoing it at 502RWHP and then test driving the car, this is what the Speed Channel’s Two Guys Garage had to say: “I never thought a Chevy guy would have so much fun in a Ford!”


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I haven't seen many TVS 2300 builds that didn't make 500tq from 2500 on up. It's a little misleading to proclaim the PD blowers as undisputed king in the tq world. The Maggies have been doing it and doing it well for years. The kits are complete, they work as advertised, and they don't break.

And they're here NOW....
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