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Old 05-22-2008, 03:49 PM   #26
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:54 PM   #27
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Does the non DI have the vacuum hose (can't tell with the covers on)? The hump...now that is something I missed. By George, I think you are right.
all the posted motor pics (on the car and off) have that vacuum line. tho on the caddy version (not the cutaway one) it appears to be a soft line (rubber/plastic) instead of a hard (metal) line.

which all that appears to be is a breather/vacuum line to the valve covers to remove gasses and help create oil press flowing to the heads

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Another thing to look for is the Throttle-Body size and shape and the bolts holding it on. Also the three fluid reservoirs are in the same locations. Lots of little cues. Including the servo-looking mechanism on the side of the throttle body!

Hower, one unrelated thing that's cool to see is that the hood is NOT supported by a prop-rod! Cool! I like that! Prop-rods scream "cheap" to me!
another thing to look at on the t/b is the fact that there is no linkage to it. fly by wire. while its cool, i want my cable damnit.

and yes, hood struts. thank you gm for keeping them.


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What are the chances they will put a nice cover on the Camaro's V6 like that?
more than likely. there is already half of one on there. lol who knows what kind of excess wrapping we will see. you can also see how much baffling they have on the intake already. (the plastic boxes on either side of the intake elbow).

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I guess we know that the scoop is not functional, at least on this car.
i dont see that scoop being worth a whole lot for induction purposes. given the size of it and its location (right in front of the hood latch) means we probably wont get a functional scoop from that location. it might help slightly to allow more air to the radiator but i dont see it being a useful source of intake.

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i thought the engine bay would be bigger on these,still not as bad as the 4th gens though.
no doubt there

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I think the V6 is a pretty large engine (outside dimensions). It may be deceptive.
it is, mainly due to the fact of the oversize heads required to run the quad cams. (and all the useless shrouding.) something im not too happy about, but as long as i get a pushrod v-8 as an option, ill be ok.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:59 PM   #28
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Whatever they do they better have an engine for all those people that are going to want better gas mileage as their priority. Gas looks to be holding it's high price into the near future so if they want to sell this car to the masses they will need to be getting high MPG numbers. Me personally, still gotta have the V8

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Old 05-22-2008, 04:12 PM   #29
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Love these pics!

There's a lot of unknowns regarding the Camaro. Which V6 is going to be used is NOT one of the variables.

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Old 05-22-2008, 04:20 PM   #30
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:51 PM   #31
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this still isn't one of the production cars that the group saw earlier this month. At least not one with the lights.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:07 PM   #32
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Look closely at the lines coming off the motor in pic 3, You can see "ENG. LLT" on a few of the wires... Does that mean something?
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:14 PM   #33
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:16 PM   #34
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So, in the germany vid alot of folks were saying that the car with the small wheel/tires was still a V-8 because of the exaust sound. I wonder if them folks were fooled by a V-6. Interesting.
I call the V6 In german right away...it had a different sound, and you could tell it wasn't quit as quick as the V8. My 8 year old boy notice it also.

In my mind im 100% certian there was at least one V6 in germany.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:17 PM   #35
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Beautiful engine bay....
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:25 PM   #36
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um, i am alone in my thought on this, but to be honest that engine doesn't look like anything special to me. Forget what the engine can do, but if we are just discussing that engines looks... I'd really like to see a really nicely polished set of air intake tubes, some polished aluminum and/or carbon fiber parts (instead of cheap plastic) and some colored tubing rather than the standard and usual black hoses.

Here are some photos for inspiration ...the last one is a Toyota Camry engine (looks like the Camaro engine at quick glance).

Okay...bring it on, I can take all the criticism from you guys!!!





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Old 05-22-2008, 05:31 PM   #37
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Look closely at the lines coming off the motor in pic 3, You can see "ENG. LLT" on a few of the wires... Does that mean something?
LLT is the code for the 3.6 DIRECT INJECTED V6........

http://media.gm.com/us/cadillac/en/n...20DI%20V-6.htm
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:31 PM   #38
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um, i am alone in my thought on this, but to be honest that engine doesn't look like anything special to me. Forget what the engine can do, but if we are just discussing that engines looks... I'd really like to see a really nicely polished set of air intake tubes, some polished aluminum and/or carbon fiber parts (instead of cheap plastic) and some colored tubing rather than the standard and usual black hoses.

Here are some photos for inspiration ...the last one is a Toyota Camry engine (looks like the Camaro engine at quick glance).

Okay...bring it on, I can take all the criticism from you guys!!!





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looking good I love to see under the hood of my dream car but thats not quite it mine will be a V8 but this meens those pics will be here soon. I love this car and I love this sight thanks guys for the awesome info.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:34 PM   #41
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Here are some photos for inspiration ...the last one is a Toyota Camry engine (looks like the Camaro engine at quick glance).
Wow... how quick are your glances?
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You just compared the newest flagship American sportscar (Vette) and 3 highly modified Imports (Porsche!!! a BMW Z-car, and a MKIV Supra?) to the preproductions of the entry level $19k Camaro?

Sorry, but your post means nothing to me with that comparison.
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LLT is the code for the 3.6 DIRECT INJECTED V6........

http://media.gm.com/us/cadillac/en/n...20DI%20V-6.htm
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i thought the engine bay would be bigger on these,still not as bad as the 4th gens though.
It is HUGE look at the gap between the radiator cowl and the front of the engine...


Also notice that the plastic engine cover is half missing.

Also notice how much accesss is available to install plumbing for Super chargers...

Finally, notice how the ABS system is on the passenger firewall as opposed to the front support bracket.... someone finally realize that too much tubing, and proximity to accidents is a cost factor....

Struts....starting to realize why the handling looked so poor on the "Ring" Looks like braces and towers are going to be the cure for up level mods, meaning they might just be thinking its a good idea to allow consumers to easily mod this car aftermarket... contrary to every other GM vehicle, save the Cobalt....


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like I said, i expected I'd get criticism.

$19k, $35k ..I think that the new Camaro is going to be a very special car and that it deserves the kind of aesthetics to the engine bay as they've given to the outside of the car (which is looking very cool). I'd love it if GM used some colored plastics instead of the typical black (that couldn't cost much extra)? How about getting rid of that horrible rubber flex air inlet piping hose and replace w/ a nice colored silicone and aluminum alloy inlet pipe? -what could that be an extra $100 per car ...or less when done in bulk.

I know the car is going to be a hot car and will perform well, I'd just love for it to be revolutionary inside and out (isn't that the Chevy slogan "An American Revolution").

(My comment on the Toyota Camry is this, the engine was obviously made for function and pure savings. The Camaro's engine is looking like it's more about savings and function ..and I feel it just needs some loving in the "cool, wow, got to have it" factor (speaking about the engine bay only).
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Look how far back the engine sits in the bay, in relation to the strut arm supports....This car is going to be SO well balance...thats awesome
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You just compared the newest flagship American sportscar (Vette) and 3 highly modified Imports (Porsche!!! a BMW Z-car, and a MKIV Supra?) to the preproductions of the entry level $19k Camaro?
-Point well taken. But like I stated above, I think it could use a little flare. Look, I still LOVE the Camaro and think it looks killer. But if we are going to analyze the engine ...well that's my comment.
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Oops, the engine sits so far back in the engine bay, behind the struts, it almost looks... " mid engine." This explains the funky dash layout for the trans-hump. then again we saw this same car in Detroit last year at the auto show... save a few peices of sheetmetal.


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Wow... how quick are your glances?
agreed

that camry bay is crap.

as far as engine looks. all that stuff can be done with aftermarket (perhaps even higher quality parts). polished VCs and crap like that can be done for cheap. I'd rather do this type of engine bay dressing myself, rather than rely on GM to do it, and then charge me extra to do it, which will be probably 3 fold of what it costs to do the type of looks you're speaking of.
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agreed

that camry bay is crap.

as far as engine looks. all that stuff can be done with aftermarket (perhaps even higher quality parts). polished VCs and crap like that can be done for cheap. I'd rather do this type of engine bay dressing myself, rather than rely on GM to do it, and then charge me extra to do it, which will be probably 3 fold of what it costs to do the type of looks you're speaking of.
Exactly!! Keep it cheap and let me dress is up as I see fit!

Dudes, this is sooo awesome, I think I have decided to go loaded V6 for now and trade it in for a V8 later on... 300HP is enough for me at first

OMG, I'm gonna cry... there is actually room to work on the engine!!!

And is that a top mount oil filter I spot, like the Ecotec??
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