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Old 05-22-2008, 09:13 PM   #76
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I can't believe none of you noticed the embossed under the hood on the insulator like on the 'Vette! That's awesome, however I guess that means the old Camaro red,white and blue with the bowtie on the bottom symbol is gone.

But I love the Bowtie anyway!!

Luckily for me, i have 3 or 4 of those bowtie emblems for the grill from when my dad first got the 78 camaro im driving now. so if they dont have it on there, than ill intall one.
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While I wish we could see the V8, it is nice to have this engine in pictures. I think it looks quite nice, especially for a test mule. Most modern engine bays look that way now. If you want it flashier, you have to go aftermarket. I like the space under the hood we have to work with, and I am a fan of GM's use of struts for the hood and trunk lids. Its a nice touch.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:32 PM   #78
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I understand that some people are enthusiastic about how the actual engine bay, parts, and components look. Personally, I usually drive with the hood closed, so it doesn't matter that much to me.

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I can see a higher displacement version of this engine being developed. A 3900 making 350hp+.
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I call the V6 In german right away...it had a different sound, and you could tell it wasn't quit as quick as the V8. My 8 year old boy notice it also.

In my mind im 100% certian there was at least one V6 in germany.
If that is a V6 in the Germany video then thats 1 more reason for me to get the V6. I think It sounds a hell of a lot like a v8 though. I have a v6 and have been around many GM v6's and they have a unique sound to them and that video isn't it unless the exhaust is something really different. but I will agree it doesn't shout "V8!!!" in the video, it is pretty soft.
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The best thing about the Zeta Platform is that ALL the engines sit way back in the chassis, giving the car an almost perfect front to rear weight distribution. I just hope that considering Australia did all the development work, we actually get a right hand drive version here. Ive seen 3 or 4 so far driving in and around Melbourne, and its soooo not fair if i cant have my very own bumble bee!
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I just hope that considering Australia did all the development work, we actually get a right hand drive version here. Ive seen 3 or 4 so far driving in and around Melbourne, and its soooo not fair if i cant have my very own bumble bee!
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hmf. not ALL of it, GM North America sent down lots of poeple to help out. But you guys do deserve a copy, no arguments there.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:17 PM   #83
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hey guys ive been reading these threads for months bu just now joined

anyways i think this V6 camaro is gonna blow away anybodys epectations 300hp
and 26-28 MPG thats awesome! and the disciple said you wouldnt know it wasnt a V8 unless someone told you

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2010 Chevy Camaro Showing Off Best Shots Yet Of DI V6 Engine

JALOPNIK had this to say about the V6 pics... For all you Camaro fan-boys and fan-girls out there


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You may have been thinking General Motors has timed their muscle car revival all wrong, what with the 2010 Chevy Camaro coming out just as gas hits $51 per gallon. But see that's just what they want — to make driving this car an indulgence. And why wouldn't it be? Especially as it now appears that although the V8-engined 2010 Camaro SS may be getting all the attention, the V6 is going to pack quite a punch as well. These new shots from the forum fan-boys looking beyond the F-body at Camaro5 give us the clearest look yet under the hood of the six-cylinder model. But this does not appear to be your grandpa's engine.

Look closely at the throttle-body size and shape and the bolts holding it on, the three fluid reservoirs in the same locations, all cues that this is indeed the glorious direct-injection V6. That means about 300 HP, the same sort of power Ford gets from the V8 Mustang GT. And look, they've even moved the battery out of the engine bay, likely mounting it in the trunk like the Pontiac G8. All in all it looks like just the thing for the indulgence-minded muscle car buyer.

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Hey guys,

Look carefully at the rear quarter panel of the V6 car. There is a reddish orange reflection. What car is that next to it? Is it a red (or orange) Camaro?
Judging from the crease in the panel of the reddish car, it could even be a Challenger.
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Hey guys,

Look carefully at the rear quarter panel of the V6 car. There is a reddish orange reflection. What car is that next to it? Is it a red (or orange) Camaro?
Judging from the crease in the panel of the reddish car, it could even be a Challenger.
i dont think so. look at the wheel of the red car. half of it is in the wheel well. an older car maybe?

edit: heck, i may be wrong too. the rest of the tire is probably cut of by the crease in the door panel?
who knows.
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Thanks for the photos, these are awesome!! One thing about the car though, it only has one hood air shock to hold the hood up? Looks weird. The 4th Gens have two, one on each side. I'm really going V8 now though, the Direct injection LLT gets only 17/26 economy, thats no better than the LS3:

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The 2008 Cadillac CTS is available with one of two V6 engines. Standard power comes from last year's optional 3.6-liter V6 generating 258 hp and 252 pound-feet of torque, while the available new 3.6-liter direct injection (DI) V6 puts out 304 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque. In performance testing, this engine produced a 0-60-mph time of 6.5 seconds. A six-speed manual transmission is standard with the base engine, and a six-speed automatic is available. The DI engine has the automatic as standard and the manual as optional. The CTS is offered in both rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations. Note that all-wheel-drive models come only with the 258-horse V6 and six-speed automatic. Both engines get virtually the same gas mileage, with 18 mpg city and 26 mpg highway for the base engine and 17/26 mpg for the DI engine.

http://www.edmunds.com/cadillac/cts/2008/review.html


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Both the base coupe and convertible Corvettes feature a 6.2-liter V8 that makes an impressive 430 hp and 424 pound-feet of torque. An optional performance exhaust adds another 6 hp. The Z06 boasts an exotic-class 505 hp and 470 lb-ft from its 7.0-liter V8. All Corvettes have a six-speed manual gearbox as standard, while a six-speed paddle-shift automatic is a no-cost option for the base coupe and convertible. The manual gearbox features new linkage for more positive action while the automatic has been recalibrated to furnish quicker response to the paddle shifters.
Regardless of which Corvette you choose, you'll get stunning performance. We spurred the base Corvette coupe from zero to 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds en route to a blistering 12.8-second quarter-mile at 114.8 mph, and Chevrolet claims that it won't stop until it hits 190 mph. Fuel economy is relatively impressive too, with 2008 EPA estimates of 16 mpg city/26 mpg highway for a manual-transmission Corvette. The Z06 is even quicker -- and at 15 mpg city/24 highway, there's only a slight penalty at the pump.


http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...08/review.html
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I'm missing a bar between the two shocks...

First thing to order, hope SS-version will have it stock...

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I'm missing a bar between the two shocks...

First thing to order, hope SS-version will have it stock...

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Shock tower braces don't usually come stock, but they're a cheap and easy upgrade. One of the first thoughts I had seeing these pictures was that would be one of my first upgrades.


Anyway...I don't see why the battery placement is such a big surprise. Heck, even the Cobalt has a trunk mounted battery. It isn't so uncommon anymore.
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I'd like to get some disciple or other feedback on the trunk mounted battery. In the G8 it's on the left side of the car to offset the weight of the driver on the right side. They didn't move it to the right for left hand drive.

I wonder if the Camaro's battery is on the passenger side (right in US) or drivers side (left in US). Hopefully it's on the right side to offset drivers weight in the U.S.

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Thanks for the photos, these are awesome!! One thing about the car though, it only has one hood air shock to hold the hood up? Looks weird. The 4th Gens have two, one on each side. I'm really going V8 now though, the Direct injection LLT gets only 17/26 economy, thats no better than the LS3:

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...08/review.html


not to bust your chops eric... buuuuut, comparing two cars with different weight and gearing options makes it unfair to compare. just cus the vette can pull off those numbers with the LS3 doesnt mean a camaro will be able to.
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Every BMW had the Battery rear mounted.

I'm still waiting for further information on the SS edition. I'm only interested in an SS edition; in addition to my Silverado SS.

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Thanks for the photos, these are awesome!! One thing about the car though, it only has one hood air shock to hold the hood up? Looks weird. The 4th Gens have two, one on each side. I'm really going V8 now though, the Direct injection LLT gets only 17/26 economy, thats no better than the LS3:

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The 2008 Cadillac CTS is available with one of two V6 engines. Standard power comes from last year's optional 3.6-liter V6 generating 258 hp and 252 pound-feet of torque, while the available new 3.6-liter direct injection (DI) V6 puts out 304 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque. In performance testing, this engine produced a 0-60-mph time of 6.5 seconds. A six-speed manual transmission is standard with the base engine, and a six-speed automatic is available. The DI engine has the automatic as standard and the manual as optional. The CTS is offered in both rear-wheel and all-wheel-drive configurations. Note that all-wheel-drive models come only with the 258-horse V6 and six-speed automatic. Both engines get virtually the same gas mileage, with 18 mpg city and 26 mpg highway for the base engine and 17/26 mpg for the DI engine.

http://www.edmunds.com/cadillac/cts/2008/review.html


Chevy Corvette:

Powertrains and Performance
Both the base coupe and convertible Corvettes feature a 6.2-liter V8 that makes an impressive 430 hp and 424 pound-feet of torque. An optional performance exhaust adds another 6 hp. The Z06 boasts an exotic-class 505 hp and 470 lb-ft from its 7.0-liter V8. All Corvettes have a six-speed manual gearbox as standard, while a six-speed paddle-shift automatic is a no-cost option for the base coupe and convertible. The manual gearbox features new linkage for more positive action while the automatic has been recalibrated to furnish quicker response to the paddle shifters.
Regardless of which Corvette you choose, you'll get stunning performance. We spurred the base Corvette coupe from zero to 60 mph in just 4.5 seconds en route to a blistering 12.8-second quarter-mile at 114.8 mph, and Chevrolet claims that it won't stop until it hits 190 mph. Fuel economy is relatively impressive too, with 2008 EPA estimates of 16 mpg city/26 mpg highway for a manual-transmission Corvette. The Z06 is even quicker -- and at 15 mpg city/24 highway, there's only a slight penalty at the pump.


http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/cor...08/review.html
A few things and I'm only saying this because there are some people on the fence between the V6 and V8 (I'm V8 all the way)

An engine itself doesn't get a specific mpg so stating that the 3.6Di in the CTS gets blank MPG is senseless and totally irrelevant.

1. Could be different gearing CTS versus Camaro
2. The CTS is heavier than the Camaro.
3. Mileage also depends on total frontal area of the car (it's how the coefficient of drag is calculated). Since we don't know the coefficient of drag for the Camaro to compare it to the CTS we can't know the mileage.
4. The Camaro might actually get a slightly detuned version of the 3.6DI to enable better mileage.
5. We keep hearing that it might get active fuel management which would bump up highway mileage.

In short, we don't know anything yet. We might be surprised, but then again we might not.
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I'd like to get some disciple or other feedback on the trunk mounted battery. In the G8 it's on the left side of the car to offset the weight of the driver on the right side. They didn't move it to the right for left hand drive.

I wonder if the Camaro's battery is on the passenger side (right in US) or drivers side (left in US). Hopefully it's on the right side to offset drivers weight in the U.S.

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man that looks clean under there but what I'm happy about is the fact that the v6 camaro will have 300 hp that is moor than the mustang GT and the challenger R/T how cool is that
wrong......I know for a fact that DI V6 camaro would spank that ass aganist the mustang but... not so sure about the challenger R/T it has 370 HP and 375 with the six-speed, yes I know it is 2 tons and the camaro is under 3700....maybe but I think the extra 75 horses and the six-speed is more than enough to kick the DI V6 camaro's ass, so the DI V6 gota go way faster than 300hp, I was expecting 350-380 horses for the mid-trim but 300 come on man, and does this mean that the camaro would have only one v8 trim??, comments
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SOURCE: http://jalopnik.com/392828/2010-chev...f-di-v6-engine

Look closely at the throttle-body size and shape and the bolts holding it on, the three fluid reservoirs in the same locations, all cues that this is indeed the glorious direct-injection V6.
Hey! That's what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wrong......I know for a fact that DI V6 camaro would spank that ass aganist the mustang but... not so sure about the challenger R/T it has 370 HP and 375 with the six-speed, yes I know it is 2 tons and the camaro is under 3700....maybe but I think the extra 75 horses and the six-speed is more than enough to kick the DI V6 camaro's ass, so the DI V6 gota go way faster than 300hp,
The Camaro V6 should come in under 3600lbs. And it'll have a 6-speed, too.
Let's say the Challenger will lose a hundred pounds thanks to a smaller engine

The numbers tell the case: Challenger's Power to weight ratio is: 10.8
Camaro's would be 11.8. The Challenger is faster, but it's not "more than enough" to kick the DI V6's ass. Think back to G8/Challenger SRT8. (G8 = 11.08; SRT8 = 9.64), yet the G8 kept right on it's tail. Scary.

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...I was expecting 350-380 horses for the mid-trim but 300 come on man, and does this mean that the camaro would have only one v8 trim??, comments
As it stands;
300hp V6, 400hp V8, and 500+hp V8. With a high probability of a 260hp T4.
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