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Old 09-12-2009, 05:28 PM   #1
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Royal Purple Oil

Has anyone had any experience with this all synthetic oil?

I was thinking about changing from Mobil One.

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Old 09-12-2009, 05:31 PM   #2
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im running rp oil but mobil is a very good oil.royal is very exspensive
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:59 PM   #3
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RP is great stuff. Check Amazon, they have it by the case at some of the best prices.
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:00 PM   #4
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I run nothing but RP in everything I own... when I say everything I mean everything, even the lawn mower...lol
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Old 09-12-2009, 06:18 PM   #5
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RP is great use it in everything.
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:21 PM   #6
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RP user here too, just got my first change and used RP.
Awesome. Elimated alot of engine compartment noises actually.
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:40 AM   #7
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I have been useing RP since 1990 in all of my cars & trucks. Engine oil, tranny, rear end, transfer case, power steering, grease. Great SStuff!
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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What about Lucas Products? AT first oil change, the additive?
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:54 AM   #9
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:40 AM   #10
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Lucas Oil is garbage. There Top Alcohol and Fuel Teams don't even run there oil as the engines don't live.
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:49 AM   #11
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Good pirce! $10 cheaper than Amazon - I have Prime membership:

http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Purple-S...2856887&sr=8-1
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Old 09-13-2009, 11:56 AM   #12
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Lucas Oil is garbage.
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Check out Bobistheoilguy

You can also use the rule of common sense for nearly all additives... seeing as selling oil (or gas, or anything) is highly competitive, if a simple additive can increase the performance of the product the companies would put it in themselves in order to gain an advantage over the competition.

That they don't means either it doesn't work (usually the case) or they are not allowed to due to some govt regulation.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:36 PM   #13
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Mobile 1 is actually a full 100% syntheitic. RP is also an excellent choice.
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Old 09-13-2009, 12:43 PM   #14
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Guys give me a call ... I can get some great price's on Royal Purple Oil !
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:00 PM   #15
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can dealers void your warranty for not using their 'recommended oil' ?
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:05 PM   #16
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Love the RP! Have been using it for about 7-8 years in everything, cars, trucks, bikes - but one bike (265HP Kawi ZX-14) that gets RedLine. I even use RP to lube my firearms (90W).

Shopping around, you can find RP at good prices. Definately a fan and recommend it.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #17
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can dealers void your warranty for not using their 'recommended oil' ?
Absolutely.

Recommended oil, GM 4718M
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Old 09-13-2009, 06:04 PM   #18
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I'm changing to Royal Purple at the 500 mile mark.

To expand the subject a little, is there a filter out there you guys can recommend? I always used K&N in the Magnum SRT-8 I traded in to get my Camaro.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:22 AM   #19
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I'm changing to Royal Purple at the 500 mile mark.

To expand the subject a little, is there a filter out there you guys can recommend? I always used K&N in the Magnum SRT-8 I traded in to get my Camaro.
K&N filters are good stuff, if you can't get your hands on one I'd try Wix, Purolator PureOne, or a top end Mobil filter. NAPA Gold's are Wix filters with a different label.

For what its worth, Royal Purple does not meet GM4718M, or even GM6094M. Unsure whether that is because they haven't cared to test it or it is something else.

http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsi...ngine_oils.pdf

Royal Purple 5/30 and 10/30 are both only API SL certified (Pre 2004). SM is the current API standard, as far as I'm seeing only their 0/40, 5/40, and 15/40 weight oils meet SM. Don't know why, but thats how it is.

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0777

Technically, Royal Purple should void yalls warranties. But that depends whether anyone really gives a crap during a warranty claim, so it could not be an issue.

For what I've heard about RP shearing so much faster than other synthetics, I'd just save the extra $4 a quart and buy something approved like Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum anyways. Doubt anyone on here would find any difference, whether on the butt dyno or the real dyno.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:06 PM   #20
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Recommended oil, GM 4718M
This is correct. Warranty specifies the GM 4718M standard. Mobil 1 obviously meets this standard, but so does the new Castrol Edge synthetic (not Castrol Syntec though).

I am considering using Castrol Edge but it is more expensive than Mobil 1 (Walmart: Castrol Edge $26/5 qt.; Mobil 1 $22/5 qt.).

On a cost basis, it is really hard to justify anything other than Mobil 1.
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May as well put 87 in it then =p
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:31 PM   #22
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So are we saying go with the mobil 1 and a wix (napa gold) filter? I like the RP but would hate to have it come back and bite me in the A$$!
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This is correct. Warranty specifies the GM 4718M standard. Mobil 1 obviously meets this standard, but so does the new Castrol Edge synthetic (not Castrol Syntec though).

I am considering using Castrol Edge but it is more expensive than Mobil 1 (Walmart: Castrol Edge $26/5 qt.; Mobil 1 $22/5 qt.).

On a cost basis, it is really hard to justify anything other than Mobil 1.
Your right that the Castrol Edge is $4 more expensive but also has a 15k/1year change interval. With an extended interval oil filter this will save you in the long run.
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K&N filters are good stuff, if you can't get your hands on one I'd try Wix, Purolator PureOne, or a top end Mobil filter. NAPA Gold's are Wix filters with a different label.

For what its worth, Royal Purple does not meet GM4718M, or even GM6094M. Unsure whether that is because they haven't cared to test it or it is something else.

http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsi...ngine_oils.pdf

Royal Purple 5/30 and 10/30 are both only API SL certified (Pre 2004). SM is the current API standard, as far as I'm seeing only their 0/40, 5/40, and 15/40 weight oils meet SM. Don't know why, but thats how it is.

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0777

Technically, Royal Purple should void yalls warranties. But that depends whether anyone really gives a crap during a warranty claim, so it could not be an issue.

For what I've heard about RP shearing so much faster than other synthetics, I'd just save the extra $4 a quart and buy something approved like Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum anyways. Doubt anyone on here would find any difference, whether on the butt dyno or the real dyno.
You should do some more research for royal purple to meet the standard they would have to reduce 25% wear additive and they RE NOT WILLING TO LOWER THERE Standards. the reason the standard is so generic is in other applications the government would not want the wear reducer additive to prevent catalytic converters damage but never has happen in the history of royal purple but as you know the government think they know better.

check the facts and you will find Royal Purple is on a class of its own as Ams Oil.
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You should do some more research for royal purple to meet the standard they would have to reduce 25% wear additive and they RE NOT WILLING TO LOWER THERE Standards. the reason the standard is so generic is in other applications the government would not want the wear reducer additive to prevent catalytic converters damage but never has happen in the history of royal purple but as you know the government think they know better.

check the facts and you will find Royal Purple is on a class of its own as Ams Oil.
Well, a high zinc level would explain why they don't have the API SM certification. I had a feeling but didn't know for sure, so I didn't guess.

And like I said, maybe it could cause warranty problems, probably not. Though if you had a cat burn out before the federal mandated warranty expires, if the dealer wanted to be a prick, they could. Most likely not an issue.

I would like it if you wouldnt mind explaining to me why Royal Purple does not meet either GM4718M or GM6094M specifications, as of 1 June, 2009. 4718M is GM's High Performance Engine Oil Specifications, and 6094M is GM's Standard Engine Oil Specifications. Here is the link to the pdf again-

http://www.gm.com/corporate/responsi...ngine_oils.pdf

In fact, on RP's on PDS, they only claim to meet a few specs-

15/40: Meets DDC Powerguard 93K214, Cummins 20078 requirements and Caterpillar ECF-1 & ECF-2.

0/40: ACEA A3/B3-04

5/40: ACEA A2-96 and A3-02

http://www.royalpurple.com/prod-pdfs/motor-oil-ps.pdf

While those are all impressive certifications, those are the same three grades that meet the higher API SL cert., so common sense would tell me they are a different mix than the regular 30 weights.

As far as warranty, if the dealer wanted to screw with you for not using a GM4718M they could, but probably not. My main concern would be why does RP cost so much more, but does not meet the same specification for a performance motor that Pennzoil Platinum and Mobil 1 do?

I'm sure Royal Purpal is a great oil, I just don't see why it is so much more than other oils that meet higher standards? Doesn't make sense to buy unless you want to feel good.
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