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76z28 · 09-12-2009, 07:03 PM

http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm

well the article says it(ls1) ran a 12.89 at 108
which i never thought it would do completely stock

new camaro is at 12.87

Man, aren't they close
its driver for driver i just thought this was interesting

jrc1122 · 09-20-2009, 11:40 AM

weight is the biggest issue.

Driver is a big issue too.

Most drivers will get neither car in the 12s stock. But both are "capable of it"
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SGOS252382 · 09-20-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 76z28

http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm

well the article says it(ls1) ran a 12.89 at 108
which i never thought it would do completely stock

new camaro is at 12.87

Man, aren't they close
its driver for driver i just thought this was interesting

New Camaro is currently at 12.87 and its only September. Just wait until the winter is over and lets see what the fastest times look like. We've yet to see what the Camaro can run at the faster tracks in winter conditions.

And currently an L99 A6 (not an LS3) is the fastest stock 2010 Camaro (for how long?).
1. Pave1 - 12.86 @ 107.70 mph, (L99, A6)
2. speedy6963 - 12.87 @ 109.08, (LS3,M6)

76z28 · 09-20-2009, 12:43 PM

no way that l99 ran that
god dang faster than i though

76z28 · 09-20-2009, 04:27 PM

i guess lol man those are pretty quick

SWAT 79 · 09-20-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSARME

Shows y'all who think manual is the way to go, that it really isn't!

The l99 got a 1 hundreth of a second faster, yet its trap speed was more than 2mph slower....Ls3>l99.

2Tightwads · 09-20-2009, 06:33 PM

Until 2010 customers stop fretting about "Whats it going to do to my warranty" when it comes to standard bolt ons like CAI/Headers/Axle Back Exhaust Systems they will always have to deal with a neck/neck race with a 4th gen. F-body powered by an inferior engine from 1997 (Vette release).

Black5thgen · 09-20-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Tightwads

Until 2010 customers stop fretting about "Whats it going to do to my warranty" when it comes to standard bolt ons like CAI/Headers/Axle Back Exhaust Systems they will always have to deal with a neck/neck race with a 4th gen. F-body powered by an inferior engine from 1997 (Vette release).

If you're reffering to modded 4th gens vs. stock 5th gens then you are correct. Other wise the 5th still has the advantage.

S8ER01Z · 09-21-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

If you're reffering to modded 4th gens vs. stock 5th gens then you are correct. Other wise the 5th still has the advantage.

x2.. the 5th gen mod for mod should walk all over the LS1.

big hammer · 09-27-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

x2.. the 5th gen mod for mod should walk all over the LS1.

that is wrong. stock for stock or mod for mod they are very close cars. if you can find many low miled 4th gens anymore.

Black5thgen · 09-27-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by big hammer

that is wrong. stock for stock or mod for mod they are very close cars. if you can find many low miled 4th gens anymore.

No there aren't

a_Username · 09-27-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SWAT 79

The l99 got a 1 hundreth of a second faster, yet its trap speed was more than 2mph slower....Ls3>l99.

..... I shouldn't have to say anything in this post, I'll just bold it for ya and let you think it over.

SWAT 79 · 09-28-2009, 08:18 AM

What's the issue? 1 1 hundredth, is that better? you knew exactly what i meant, and the 2 mph trap speed is where the story is told, on the street it is way faster, and with a good launch it has better potential. There is really no argument here, but its okay, I would be mad if i bought a automatic too.

S8ER01Z · 09-28-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

No there aren't

See if we could get Speed Inc or someone to sponsor us we could do a side by side comparo in GMHTP or something and prove it!

haha.

a_Username · 09-28-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SWAT 79

What's the issue? 1 1 hundredth, is that better? you knew exactly what i meant, and the 2 mph trap speed is where the story is told, on the street it is way faster, and with a good launch it has better potential. There is really no argument here, but its okay, I would be mad if i bought a automatic too.

On the street? Apparently not. It got from point A to point B quicker than the manual, even if it was by 1/100 of a second it was still quicker.

SWAT 79 · 09-28-2009, 05:51 PM

No, on the street past a quarter mile, the manual would have walked it, so if point b were any further from point a, it wouldn't have been a contest. Putting aside the driver skill and the fun factor of the manual, why are you so quick to put the auto on a pedestal? The 2 mph trap speed is much more significant AND impressive then the 1/100 of a second.

Lets give you an example, because you seem to be missing the point.

A ls1 camaro runs a 12.89, and for the sake of the example, so does the l99 camaro. The l99 traps 2 mph faster, that means that the l99, is a faster car. Okay, they are just as fast in the quarter, but anything past that, the l99 would have walked it without question.

Not to mention, if it were a roll race, the l99 would have had no chance, and you would have seen how much more dominant the ls3 manual was.

Understand?

a_Username · 09-28-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSARME

So the L99 did the 1/4 mile faster than the LS3.

Ok!

He acts like I care what happens on the street lol.

SWAT 79 · 09-28-2009, 07:49 PM

Wow, are you guys serious? Aside from the fact that you missed the point completely, the higher trap speed is evidence of more potential for a greater stock time, so when another driver goes out there and cuts a better 60', the ls3 will be quicker in the quarter mile.

Ok!

a_Username · 09-28-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Wow, are you guys serious? Aside from the fact that you missed the point completely, the higher trap speed is evidence of more potential for a greater stock time, so when another driver goes out there and cuts a better 60', the ls3 will be quicker in the quarter mile.

Ok!

Until then my friend.

SWAT 79 · 09-28-2009, 08:06 PM

Okay, so we can agree, without question, that the l99 runs a quicker quarter mile, but is indeed a slower car. Glad we're on the same page.

Black5thgen · 09-28-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

See if we could get Speed Inc or someone to sponsor us we could do a side by side comparo in GMHTP or something and prove it!

haha.

That would be fun

a_Username · 09-29-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SWAT 79

Okay, so we can agree, without question, that the l99 runs a quicker quarter mile, but is indeed a slower car. Glad we're on the same page.

Sure.

02 WS6 TA · 09-29-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

x2.. the 5th gen mod for mod should walk all over the LS1.

Bring it on.

S8ER01Z · 09-29-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 02 WS6 TA

Bring it on.

I don't have a 5th gen to bring.

Black5thgen · 09-29-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

I don't have a 5th gen to bring.

You can borrow mine

09-12-2009, 07:03 PM	#1
76z28 Drives: 1976 camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: bakersfield Posts: 470	Ls1 camaro vs new ls3 camaro http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Bullitt_Article2.htm well the article says it(ls1) ran a 12.89 at 108 which i never thought it would do completely stock new camaro is at 12.87 Man, aren't they close its driver for driver i just thought this was interesting

09-20-2009, 11:40 AM	#2
jrc1122 Drives: 2012 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene, TX Posts: 1,358	weight is the biggest issue. Driver is a big issue too. Most drivers will get neither car in the 12s stock. But both are "capable of it" ________ Vapir Oxygen Vaporizer Last edited by jrc1122; 03-11-2011 at 10:02 PM.

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09-20-2009, 12:43 PM	#4
76z28 Drives: 1976 camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: bakersfield Posts: 470	no way that l99 ran that god dang faster than i though

09-20-2009, 04:27 PM	#5
76z28 Drives: 1976 camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: bakersfield Posts: 470	i guess lol man those are pretty quick

09-20-2009, 06:33 PM	#7
2Tightwads Banned Drives: 2002 LS1 swapped into a 1994 Z Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 388	Until 2010 customers stop fretting about "Whats it going to do to my warranty" when it comes to standard bolt ons like CAI/Headers/Axle Back Exhaust Systems they will always have to deal with a neck/neck race with a 4th gen. F-body powered by an inferior engine from 1997 (Vette release).

09-28-2009, 08:18 AM	#13
SWAT 79 Drives: 2005 Cadillac CTS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 440	What's the issue? 1 1 hundredth, is that better? you knew exactly what i meant, and the 2 mph trap speed is where the story is told, on the street it is way faster, and with a good launch it has better potential. There is really no argument here, but its okay, I would be mad if i bought a automatic too.

09-28-2009, 05:51 PM	#16
SWAT 79 Drives: 2005 Cadillac CTS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 440	No, on the street past a quarter mile, the manual would have walked it, so if point b were any further from point a, it wouldn't have been a contest. Putting aside the driver skill and the fun factor of the manual, why are you so quick to put the auto on a pedestal? The 2 mph trap speed is much more significant AND impressive then the 1/100 of a second. Lets give you an example, because you seem to be missing the point. A ls1 camaro runs a 12.89, and for the sake of the example, so does the l99 camaro. The l99 traps 2 mph faster, that means that the l99, is a faster car. Okay, they are just as fast in the quarter, but anything past that, the l99 would have walked it without question. Not to mention, if it were a roll race, the l99 would have had no chance, and you would have seen how much more dominant the ls3 manual was. Understand?

09-28-2009, 07:49 PM	#18
SWAT 79 Drives: 2005 Cadillac CTS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 440	Wow, are you guys serious? Aside from the fact that you missed the point completely, the higher trap speed is evidence of more potential for a greater stock time, so when another driver goes out there and cuts a better 60', the ls3 will be quicker in the quarter mile. Ok!

09-28-2009, 08:06 PM	#20
SWAT 79 Drives: 2005 Cadillac CTS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 440	Okay, so we can agree, without question, that the l99 runs a quicker quarter mile, but is indeed a slower car. Glad we're on the same page.