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Old 09-14-2009, 12:45 PM   #1
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DO NOT give specific order/vin info on the site if getting a tune!

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"Also you may (or someone else may) want to post that these people posting about "undetectable tunes" and how bad they want them for their cars ect REALLY shouldn't be posting their order #'s VIN #'s ect... GM monitors the hell out of this site and its hilarious to see people posting that with all their personal info right there"

Just lookin out for the members
This is coming from someone who has pretty good knowledge of the workings at GM.

If you want and get a tune, for the love of _____, remember that I can easily read your other posts, find that post with your order number or your vin, run the info (if I worked for GM), see the tune, and VOID your warranty. It's VERY easy to do if someone from the GM warranty dept IF they wanted to do it. It would not surprise me if they did. After all, it saves GM big bucks if they can avoid spending upwards of hundreds of thousands of dollars in warranty claims that aren't the fault of the manufacturer.

Guys. If you want to get a tune and don't care about your warranty, go for it. You have nothing to lose.

If you want a tune and do NOT want GM to know about it, use your head and don't post up that you got one on the site.... That's just called common sense. That goes for the "undetectable tunes" as well....since we all know that NO tuner will warranty their undetectable tune....which they claim GM won't be able to see. If they can't see it....why not warranty the tune?



......EXACTLY.

Anyway...that's all I have to say about that.

I've been asked to warn ya'll about posting your tune info on the boards. I'm doing this for the good of the member.

And for those who are curious?....no, I don't have a tune. No, I'm not getting a tune. Not until AFTER my warranty expires.
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Old 09-14-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Good post Tag

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Old 09-14-2009, 03:19 PM   #3
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:02 AM   #5
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:07 AM   #6
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Great post Tag, didnt even think of that! But im not getting a tune anyways but its still nice to warn others
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:14 PM   #7
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:59 PM   #8
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Not really as some manufacturers...and even some larger dealers pay people to do just what the original poster mentioned.

I love seeing the dyno graphs and all that splashed into the forums too. Just because you don't post that you got a tune or you use the "codewords" for tuning, doesn't mean someone won't find it.

The people that are surfing forums looking for this information aren't village idiots...they are usually pretty smart folks and they get paid well (at least the ones I've met do). They will blend in, post up pics of "their" car and get into the "know" before they ever start investigating. You can say paranoia all day long...but I can tell you it is happening.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:04 PM   #9
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my car is 100% stock, everything i have posted was a Visual / written Illusion
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:19 PM   #10
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I can tell you all with complete confidence. GM monitors this site regularly and primarily for feedback on what we are happy and upset with regarding the Camaro. And I'm not talking about our GM insiders either...

So be careful what you post about your car... Just sayin.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:42 PM   #11
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GM really pays people to read this site? Can I have an application please?
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:43 PM   #12
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GM really pays people to read this site. Can I have an application please?
LMAO

Uhm I wouldn't say they are payed to view this site but it is certainly one of the ways they do market research...

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Old 10-30-2009, 05:13 PM   #13
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Thanks mods! Really cool of ya.

BTW...I'm not doing any mods untill warranty is over...just saying.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:20 PM   #14
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:18 PM   #15
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:28 PM   #16
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If they did that I would certainly go for it without violating the Warranty.....
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:16 PM   #17
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Can anyone go into the dealership and get this tune, and not violate the warranty?
NO, they hired a tuner to put a ecm/tcm flash in the car, warranty is void if gm finds out. just because it was done at the dealer means nothing
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:59 PM   #18
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I assume if you get a tune and don't mention it on the site, the moment you take it in for service, they will be able to tell from the ECM/PCM correct?
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Old 11-26-2009, 06:13 PM   #19
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Also on a side note I have it from a reliable source that some dealers send people out to the local dragstrips looking for new cars and if they see them drag racing them they get the VIN numbers and if the car comes in for an engine/drivetrain problem.. the warranty may not cover it any more....

It's your car do with it what you will but all I am saying don't be surprised if you have a problem and you have done any of these things your warranty may not be valid any more...
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:04 PM   #20
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I assume if you get a tune and don't mention it on the site, the moment you take it in for service, they will be able to tell from the ECM/PCM correct?
Yes, if you tune the PCM and take it in for service they will know.


There is some speculation that you can returt the PCM to stock and they won't know... (I don't recomend this). Still others speculate there is a "counter" that records how many time the PCM has been flashed. Meaning GM would know you'd tuned you car wether it was returned to stock or not...


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Old 11-26-2009, 11:36 PM   #21
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Good Post, the internet can work for ya and against ya.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:29 PM   #23
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To pour gas on this fire, the kind people at On Star have the capability of interpreting codes when service lights pop on. In my last car, I was unable to restart the car for several minutes after it stalled in the parking lot. Within those 2-3 minutes, On Star was able to read the specific code and I was into a 3-way phone call with the service department down the street. They knew at the dealership what was wrong with my car before I even arrived.

It is certainly feasible that On Star can communicate all sorts of things (whether the driver knows it or not).

Knowing this, it certainly seems possible that On Star could, at any time, relay information to GM that some drivers might rather be kept private.

Now... where did I put my tinfoil hat...
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:04 PM   #24
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My question is after watching the below video (watch the WHOLE VIDEO) and seeing how tunes are supposed to violate the warranty, here is a brand new SS being delivered and at the dealership, where the in house techs are doing a TUNE that is increasing the HP.

Its at 2:30 min into the video

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpookTechSpyShop#p/f/2/nt51wPJaocI


Can anyone go into the dealership and get this tune, and not violate the warranty?
Well...

In that situation, if there is a problem where the dealer DOES NOT have to send any computer snap shot info to GM, AND...AND, you take the car into this dealer ONLY, there would not be a problem. But, if your tranny goes, the engine blows, etc and you take your car into this dealership where it was purchased from and GM has to get involved? I would not expect GM to honor any powertrain warranty. This is when the dealership would have to step up and take the hit for any repairs.

There are dealers who will offer this. But, they will also stand by that ANY and ALL changes/work must be done through them.
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Would buying some other after-market warranty allow you to do a tune and keep your warranty?
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