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Old 11-26-2009, 06:59 PM   #18
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I assume if you get a tune and don't mention it on the site, the moment you take it in for service, they will be able to tell from the ECM/PCM correct?
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:13 PM   #19
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Also on a side note I have it from a reliable source that some dealers send people out to the local dragstrips looking for new cars and if they see them drag racing them they get the VIN numbers and if the car comes in for an engine/drivetrain problem.. the warranty may not cover it any more....

It's your car do with it what you will but all I am saying don't be surprised if you have a problem and you have done any of these things your warranty may not be valid any more...
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:04 PM   #20
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I assume if you get a tune and don't mention it on the site, the moment you take it in for service, they will be able to tell from the ECM/PCM correct?
Yes, if you tune the PCM and take it in for service they will know.


There is some speculation that you can returt the PCM to stock and they won't know... (I don't recomend this). Still others speculate there is a "counter" that records how many time the PCM has been flashed. Meaning GM would know you'd tuned you car wether it was returned to stock or not...


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Old 11-27-2009, 12:36 AM   #21
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Good Post, the internet can work for ya and against ya.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:29 PM   #23
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To pour gas on this fire, the kind people at On Star have the capability of interpreting codes when service lights pop on. In my last car, I was unable to restart the car for several minutes after it stalled in the parking lot. Within those 2-3 minutes, On Star was able to read the specific code and I was into a 3-way phone call with the service department down the street. They knew at the dealership what was wrong with my car before I even arrived.

It is certainly feasible that On Star can communicate all sorts of things (whether the driver knows it or not).

Knowing this, it certainly seems possible that On Star could, at any time, relay information to GM that some drivers might rather be kept private.

Now... where did I put my tinfoil hat...
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #24
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My question is after watching the below video (watch the WHOLE VIDEO) and seeing how tunes are supposed to violate the warranty, here is a brand new SS being delivered and at the dealership, where the in house techs are doing a TUNE that is increasing the HP.

Its at 2:30 min into the video

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpookTechSpyShop#p/f/2/nt51wPJaocI


Can anyone go into the dealership and get this tune, and not violate the warranty?
Well...

In that situation, if there is a problem where the dealer DOES NOT have to send any computer snap shot info to GM, AND...AND, you take the car into this dealer ONLY, there would not be a problem. But, if your tranny goes, the engine blows, etc and you take your car into this dealership where it was purchased from and GM has to get involved? I would not expect GM to honor any powertrain warranty. This is when the dealership would have to step up and take the hit for any repairs.

There are dealers who will offer this. But, they will also stand by that ANY and ALL changes/work must be done through them.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:09 PM   #25
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Would buying some other after-market warranty allow you to do a tune and keep your warranty?
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Well...

In that situation, if there is a problem where the dealer DOES NOT have to send any computer snap shot info to GM, AND...AND, you take the car into this dealer ONLY, there would not be a problem. But, if your tranny goes, the engine blows, etc and you take your car into this dealership where it was purchased from and GM has to get involved? I would not expect GM to honor any powertrain warranty. This is when the dealership would have to step up and take the hit for any repairs.

There are dealers who will offer this. But, they will also stand by that ANY and ALL changes/work must be done through them.
I would say if you got the tune at the dealership, you better get it in writing from that dealership that they will honor the warrenty, even if GM denys the claim... they did the tune they should be held responsible...
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:18 PM   #27
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I would say if you got the tune at the dealership, you better get it in writing from that dealership that they will honor the warrenty, even if GM denys the claim... they did the tune they should be held responsible...
Amen to that...
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:19 PM   #28
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Would buying some other after-market warranty allow you to do a tune and keep your warranty?
Good question for someone from some place like Warranty Direct.

I had an aftermarket warranty though them (but no tune stuff...all stock).
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:21 AM   #29
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tuning is for the birds anyway...... why go fast......
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Old 12-25-2009, 03:17 PM   #30
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Come on, lets all be fair, if you want to hot rod your car do it. With any racing type application your on your own and it would be unfair to expect GM to honor a warranty for a blown motor that has been modified, raced, beat to S---. If you want to have a daily driver keep it stock and enjoy. As for GM paying people to monitor vin numbers, come on be real. They have better ways to control warranty losses.
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Old 02-13-2010, 01:20 PM   #31
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no reason to tune, such a refined awesome machine.....
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:32 AM   #32
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IT GETS BETTER

Here's a bit of new info.. Some folks might be interested in this when they think they can "beat the system."

http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/index.html
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To pour gas on this fire, the kind people at On Star have the capability of interpreting codes when service lights pop on. In my last car, I was unable to restart the car for several minutes after it stalled in the parking lot. Within those 2-3 minutes, On Star was able to read the specific code and I was into a 3-way phone call with the service department down the street. They knew at the dealership what was wrong with my car before I even arrived.

It is certainly feasible that On Star can communicate all sorts of things (whether the driver knows it or not).

Knowing this, it certainly seems possible that On Star could, at any time, relay information to GM that some drivers might rather be kept private.

Now... where did I put my tinfoil hat...
gonna piggy-back the onstar comment

If you have a scan guage (aeroforce interceptor, etc) plugged into the obdII port always, the onstar system is unable to communicate the cars "status".
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:45 PM   #34
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I want to suggest moderation here. Don't post your VIN, but don't be afraid to post modifications to your car. Balance is the key. No one here wants to be responsible for your denied warranty claim on your drivetrain because your tune and VIN were made public. We do, however, want to discuss the potential to enhance our cars.

I'm also going to point out that OnStar neither has the staff nor the desire to follow your cars without your permission. It may even be illegal for them to conduct this sort of unauthorized espionage. Don't worry about OnStar. Worry about what personal information you post online.
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