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Old 09-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #1
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GM may lift output of certain hot models, including Camaro

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TEL AVIV (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Co. may turn out more of its most popular new models because it underestimated demand for a number of new products that came to market after the company filed to reorganize in June, The Wall Street Journal reported, quoting Vice Chairman Bob Lutz.

GM /quotes/comstock/11i!mtlqq (MTLQQ 0.71, -0.02, -2.86%) had been cautious as it planned production, and its conversations with dealers earlier in the year had led the company to expect demand to be softer than it actually was, the report said. The newspaper quoted a Wisconsin dealer as saying that the hot models are the Cadillac SRX, Chevrolet Equinox, Buick LaCrosse and Chevrolet Camaro. Those models are among the one exceeding GM's forecasts, Lutz said
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:02 AM   #2
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TWJ Article.

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General Motors Co. dealers are pushing the car maker to boost availability of some of its hottest-selling models, forcing the company to reconsider production plans for 2009.

GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said Tuesday the car maker underestimated demand for a slate of new products that hit the market after its bankruptcy filing in June. The miscalculation was due primarily to the fact GM aimed to be overly cautious as it planned production volumes, and because its conversations with dealers earlier in the year led the company to expect softer demand than GM has seen in recent weeks.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125305886067314043.html
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:04 AM   #3
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This was gonna happen, re-organization or not.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:06 AM   #4
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This was gonna happen, re-organization or not.
It's just sound business practice to increase output of vehicles that are selling.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:35 AM   #5
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Let's just hope they dont over do it and end up in the same mess.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:39 AM   #6
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It's just sound business practice to increase output of vehicles that are selling.
So simple it almost sounds stupid to say.

"Hey, we keep selling out of these things. Think we should make more?"
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:06 PM   #7
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General Motors Co. may turn out more of its most popular new models because it underestimated demand for a number of new products that came to market after the company filed to reorganize in June...

The newspaper quoted a Wisconsin dealer as saying that the hot models are the ....Chevrolet Camaro. Those models are among the one exceeding GM's forecasts, Lutz said.
Yes please...I'm still waiting for my Camaro.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:19 PM   #8
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Yes please...I'm still waiting for my Camaro.
Hell yeah, dial it up!

Does anyone know what Chevy originally projected first year sales to be for the Camaro? I guess whatever they were, Chevy smashed through them...
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:32 PM   #9
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So simple it almost sounds stupid to say.

"Hey, we keep selling out of these things. Think we should make more?"
Not so simple. Camaro sales have a proven ability to tank after the first couple of model years. They don't want to end up hiring additional workers that they can't use a year later.

If they could fire workers at will, they'd have added a shift a while back. But they can't.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:32 PM   #10
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Let's just hope they dont over do it and end up in the same mess.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:34 PM   #11
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Let's just hope they dont over do it and end up in the same mess.
Proven ability is this area, to. They'll probably delay adding a shift, then add one just as demand tails off.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:51 PM   #12
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Average time spent on dealer lots for Equinox, SRX, LaCrosse, and Camaro is currently at 48 hours.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:53 PM   #13
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Hell yeah, dial it up!

Does anyone know what Chevy originally projected first year sales to be for the Camaro? I guess whatever they were, Chevy smashed through them...
Originally they projected 80 - 100K. Current projections for the 2010 model year are as high as 120K
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They are attempting to build as many camaros as possible without putting on a 2nd shift. The only way they will put a second shift on is if they put a second model on the flex line.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:29 PM   #15
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Not so simple. Camaro sales have a proven ability to tank after the first couple of model years. They don't want to end up hiring additional workers that they can't use a year later.

If they could fire workers at will, they'd have added a shift a while back. But they can't.
i think it's that simple...the gen 3 and 4 cars were not timeless, imo. the gen 5 IS. the uncertainty that kept them cautious was whether or not the public would put any faith into them. not historic trends, although that is something they definitely looked into.
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Old 09-16-2009, 02:40 PM   #16
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GM start pumping out camaros....

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Old 09-16-2009, 02:46 PM   #18
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Average time spent on dealer lots for Equinox, SRX, LaCrosse, and Camaro is currently at 48 hours.
i was at my dealer asking if they would be a part of the 60 day guarantee, and they had 3 Equinoxes, 1 LaCrosse, and 1 Camaro in the delivery area. i was impressed.
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I have a friend who order a 2SS/RS Summit White Camaro two months ago, and he already got it in. It's very nice. Sun roof and chrome fuel door. I think that's decent timing. Those waiting longer must be a dealer issue or allocation. Unfortunately, I can't get mine until next year. I owe 1 year on my Silverado.
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Old 09-17-2009, 02:03 PM   #20
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Ok...so GM just says "we are cutting back allocations and production of the SS models..."...and then this.



Well, good news it is! Now, I don't want GM to make too many forcing a price drop...supply and demand. But, I want to see it remain that the Camaro is the 2nd most sought after vehicle on the market today.
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Old 09-17-2009, 02:10 PM   #21
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Ok...so GM just says "we are cutting back allocations and production of the SS models..."...and then this.



Well, good news it is! Now, I don't want GM to make too many forcing a price drop...supply and demand. But, I want to see it remain that the Camaro is the 2nd most sought after vehicle on the market today.
I think they should be building as many as they can right now including the SS because this fad will fade just like it did with the mustang. Once all the motor heads get one the sales will level off.
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I think they should be building as many as they can right now including the SS because this fad will fade just like it did with the mustang. Once all the motor heads get one the sales will level off.
Agreed.

And make enough so there are 1 or 2 on dealers lots. (At less than msrp)
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Old 09-17-2009, 02:20 PM   #23
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If they keep the Camaro hard to get for a little longer it will be a little more time for people to sit and WANT more, instead of it being an itch that gets scratched right away. I think that would help it not be as much of a fad. If it is too easy to get people will get bored very quickly, half of what they want is the cool factor, and the chase. I think they should do as much as they can to cut down the wait time of the people that have ordered, but other than that just keep pluggin along and maybe authorize some more overtime instead of more workers that they have to worry about.
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If they keep the Camaro hard to get for a little longer it will be a little more time for people to sit and WANT more, instead of it being an itch that gets scratched right away. I think that would help it not be as much of a fad. If it is too easy to get people will get bored very quickly, half of what they want is the cool factor, and the chase. I think they should do as much as they can to cut down the wait time of the people that have ordered, but other than that just keep pluggin along and maybe authorize some more overtime instead of more workers that they have to worry about.
My pappy always told me you have to make hay when the sun shines. What your saying is a good theroy ,but you got to remember other companies are building cars and coming out with new designs all the time that can shift someone to another car. Right now they have the only hot car and should get as many out the door as they can.
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Man I want some of them fender covers!!! Talk about a perfect fit.
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