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Old 07-28-2010, 06:21 PM   #26
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White shouldn't be viewed the same way as the IOM's or other metallic colors that look different at different angles. Black also should not fall under this bulletin either.
Even Ray Charles could see it doesn't match.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:29 PM   #27
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Our IOM is definately like this. The front bumper cover looks so much different that the rest of the car, but then when you look at the rest sometimes it doesn't all match either. I say it adds character to the car and no one else has the paint job we do.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:39 PM   #28
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My Summit White also has this issue.Talked to the folks at S&T Body in Katy,Texas. They do all of Hennessey's work. Said that you could respray car and still have same issue.Front fascia and rear end are a composite material and some colors will never look the same. Gonna have to live with it or paint it a different color.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:38 PM   #29
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Having the issue as well, trying to talk to the dealer about it and am probably just going to get the run around from everyone and nothing will ever come of it... very disappointing.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:29 PM   #30
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Looks crazy on all the cars. I see it in my car every day. It's an obvious difference. But, like another said, it gives our cars character. I'm not too bothered by it. But, since I have an opinion, I think the "excuse" doesn't fly that the paint is the same. Sorry, GM. No offense to you. But I wouldn't buy that for a dollar.
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:28 AM   #31
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while this issue may not be the same issue as stated in this thread, has anyone with a 2010 or 2011 noticed in direct sunlight with the metalics that there appears to be lighter/darker striping of the paint on the doors...i am having some body color match painting done on new spoiler etc..but noticed this before had car 30 days...my painter (who has been in biz a long time) said it was a quality issue..looks like it was underpainted in the base coat. i took it to dealership, started the process of trying to get a GM rep to look at it, so it can get repainted by me (reimbursed) or by local dealership...this is not same as flop. this is a vertical issue on the same plane...anyone with syn green or a metallic has this issue?
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:57 PM   #32
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Very slight diff in color on gas cap. Nothing worth stewing over. Sometimes our eyes are drawn to the flaws that only we notice. I look at my car and see the beauty. Ok, I'll get off my pedestal now.
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #33
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i have this problem with my gas cap only, its darker than the rest of the car....but, its grown on me and i like it and it makes my car unique
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:12 AM   #34
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I have the same problem with the Cyber Grey... my front fascia is definitely a shade lighter
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:41 PM   #35
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I have the SIlver color and it is mismatched to hell, but again plastic versus metal this happens, and not worth wasting my time on... especially with my dealers auto body shop which sucks anyway.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:40 AM   #36
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I haven't responded to my own thread for quite awhile, but GM did come and look at my car, they saw the mismatches, but felt it was within their tolerences and was part of the flop, angle of light etc. This was on the metal only, and the urethane and metal were off, but i expected that from day one. Im a former 2 time vette owner, it had orange peel all over both. I got this car for the color period. Let's speed up, I chose on my own to have the sides repainted by a private painter, who I completely trust. It took over two months to get a match. This was because the issue was most noticeable in bright light. So he had to mix and match on those days. Not easy in winter...haha, I am happy to report success and will post pics in about a month. Waiting for paint to degausse to put paint protection back on. Let me say GM took me very seriously, and sent more than local guys. They were courteous, and I felt gave me my day in court.They gave me reasonable options. At the end of the day, this was my decision to repainted. No regrets. I saw several SGM and saw this on almost all of them, some better, some worse. Comes down to what u can live with. When nice weather around here in April, I should back on the road, as I replaced the spoiler, added front splitter. Painting calipers SGM with custom stencils with 69 camaro logo and brembo. upgrading front rotors to brembo slotted performance. Upgrading fogs to AAC to P13W white plasmas. Replacing bow ties with 69 SS badges, installing SGM heritage grill. lots on inside as well. Getting the paint right was worth it for me.



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I have the SIlver color and it is mismatched to hell, but again plastic versus metal this happens, and not worth wasting my time on... especially with my dealers auto body shop which sucks anyway.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:31 AM   #37
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AAAHHHH i do see a bit of that too.....
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Old 02-04-2011, 06:01 AM   #38
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I think most GM metalics will show it. I ve been highly criticized for not understanding flop or substrates reaction to paint. I understand both. In a production line car, it's probable not expect a perfect match in a metallic with flop. The SGM is probably one of the toughest, but my compaint was on the metal surfaces only on the same plane or viewing angle. What I saw from mine and others was consistent. uneven basecoat. More layers would prob correct it at factory. GM felt it was good enough, in tolerance of flop etc. Most complaints were about different shades on different surfaces such as a plastic next to metal. GM even published a tsb that's on this website. that can be corrected as well with a good paint match and several layers of even base coat. I want to again say GM worked with me. I could have had it evened out at dealership paintshop, but I felt the path to correction was going to require a lot of work for my standards. It was. Like all car things comes down to money. I had paint protection that had to be removed and will need reinstalled as well. So I doubt I will get my money back out, but I love the color enough to make it the way GM intended it. I didn't paint the whole car, just the sides where uneven basecoat looked like stripes on my doors and quarters. In my case it was a little out of my tolerance.
updated 2/10/11
finally repainted...here is shot of the newly repainted drivers side in sunlight. this is about 5 or 6 coats of spies hecker paint, and matrix clearcoat i am very happy with, there is no issues with the uneveness of the basecoat anymore in all angles or light...the car is still disassembled for custom work going on...heritage grill swap, rear diffuser body color match, new spoiler, etc..think calipers are being painted today SGM, and a tomatoe red stripe on outer edge on wheels like SLP ZL pkg if dont see anything dramtic im thrilled since that paint should look even in basecoat...


front bumper off to paint fog light inserts green, change bulbs to AAC plasma white, install a lower front defuser, and install a heritage grill (painted) with 69 SS front badge (the real thing from NPD)


engine bay..
just standard v8 cover painted over stock silver for now..i have some hydrocarbon green cover pieces installed previously. i am not done under the hood, dipstick is green, fact airtube will be green as well..so should offset well. may look at some rotofab pieces like the corvette 2 piece covers. hood mat bowtie will prob have a vinyl green over it or painted..


side view for driver side front to back..
very sunny again, just showing the flop. the doors were painted, but fenders were blended in. looks good, confirms to constant basecoat...really with SGM, u see a huge flop for a metalic. the color is just incredible.










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Old 05-13-2011, 08:24 PM   #39
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My IBM front bumper is not matched but not sure they can fix it better. I am afraid of a repaint because it won't be as tough as the factory baked on finish
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:14 PM   #40
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Even my dealership body shop says they are tow different colors and they are instructed to repaint them the same way.
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:23 PM   #41
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I have the same problem with the Cyber Grey... my front fascia is definitely a shade lighter


mine also
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:45 PM   #42
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x3 for Cyber Gray. The whole car looks like it doesn't match, I've had people ask me if I got into an accident since the bumper doesn't match the hood
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:41 PM   #43
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my nose is a lil different

on the 2011 summit white -- but my strut towers are changing colors bigtime and it does not seem to be a deposit of anything. Is anyone else have a mocha colored strut tower now?
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:33 PM   #44
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CGM 2SS/RS doesn't match either. Hood, Fenders, Bumper cover, fuel door are all real noticeable, if you're looking for it. I washed mine yesterday and before it didn't seem to bother me, but now it's kinda aggravating me.
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:25 PM   #45
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My SS is summit white built in January of 2012, matches perfectly all over...
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Thanks nc sg ss i was curious what it looked like with the mirrors removed
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:44 PM   #47
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Even Ray Charles could see it doesn't match.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:32 PM   #48
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i don't understand why gm is letting the cars go at quality control with this..they see that the paint shade don't match and still they send them away..why they did not try other materials to make it match with the rest of the car???

why on the 4th gen paint is matching? you had steel,fiberglass, plastic..

i know the 5th gen they are kinda square with different angle it give contrast to the paint ..but i don't buy it. they should try to get a better quality paint on their product.look at the money you spend on them..
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:44 PM   #49
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The term that describes the apperant mismatched panels is called Metamorism. Color is merely the reflection of light. So different light sources provide a different shade of color just as mentioned on this thread. Its not a ' mismatch' or a 'flop' difference, merely the reflection of light off of two different angles of panels! Its perfectly illustrated in the GM service bulleton with the painted panel with the seam which changes colors when the adjacent panel angle is changed.

As for the bumper facias and fuel door being different colors is a mismatch which is better on some makes and models than others. Being a production painter for 25 years trust me when i tell you acura bumpers are by far the worst. Check them out next time you see one and youll be glad that GMs quality standards are better than Acura! The mismatch happens for several reasons. One is that the plastic parts follow a different refinishing procedure because they have extra steps to insure adhesion to the raw plastic. So they are painted in a different part of the factory or a different facility entirely. Both pose color match challenges. The biggest one is the fact that paint is pumped sometimes miles to different parts of the factory to the spraying robots. The longer the distance the more likely the heavier toners/metallics/pearls in the color settle to the bottom of the lines, effectively changing the original color that matched when it started at the pump! Another reason there is a slight color and flop mismatch especially on metallic colors is the fact that the metallics and micas lay different on plastic panels because plastic by nature collects more static electricity.

Its very diffecult to achieve a very good color match throughout entire car even when the car is sprayed my the same painter with the same gun/mix/pressure and technique! Ferrari is by far the best color match but there completly built/painted by hand by skilled technicians. $$$

Just my 2c to help clarify. BTW i have a summit white 2011 SLP585 and the front bumper matchs because they respray the front clip to ensure the hood matchs. Rear bumper and fuel door color is off but with what i know about the challenges the factory has with color match, im perfectly happy with the slight mismatch!
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:37 PM   #50
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depending on the angle I can count four different shades of "Summit white" on my 2012 it is a rainbow of whites ......
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