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Old 05-29-2008, 09:54 PM   #1
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Top V8 Availability?

Does anybody have any ideas about when the top V8 will be released. Or how many will be made? I've looked all over but cant find any clues. Does anybody know anything or are we all in the same boat here?
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:17 PM   #2
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Nothing official. So, we don't know.

What we do know is there is a test mule that is blown/supercharged. That's about it where the HiPo engine is concerned.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:26 PM   #3
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I'm just hoping its not forever after the initial and not impossible to get like the gt500.
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It will be out 6-12 months after the initial release. Its not likely to be any easier to get than a GT500, harder for a while.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:30 AM   #5
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wow, 6-12 months that will really suck
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:46 AM   #6
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any ideas as to weather or not the dealers will be able to place orders at the time of the coupe release?
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:52 PM   #7
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It will be out 6-12 months after the initial release. Its not likely to be any easier to get than a GT500, harder for a while.
Although I don't have any information to counter what DGthe3 says... This isn't official...

And I'm still holding on to the hope that we can get em day one... I know I'm not buying one right away but I still want to see and test drive one.

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Old 05-30-2008, 01:06 PM   #8
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Its not official, but the only way it isn't true is if it takes longer than 12 months for it to come out. Otherwise, even if it debuts at the same time as the others, its still out 12 months later too, right? Not what I initially meant, but the logic still holds.

However, I haven't heard anything to go against what I said and I think I remember heard from various official sources, plus lots of unofficial ones, that the top dog will be released about the same time as the 'vert. It follows what is almost always done. Look at Pontiac and the G8 GXP and 'model formerly known as sport truck'.

Manufacturers can't make all models of a car at the same time. So them make the volume sellers first because people who have been waiting for a $40K 500 hp Camaro are likely to wait a little longer.
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:34 PM   #9
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I never said it didn't make sense.... I just don't like it. :(
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:50 PM   #10
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I agree, I really hope they get them out there than we're expecting, but I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one :(
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Putting the Z28 out of buyers' reach would be a huuuuge mistake for GM, and I think they realize this. Ford doesn't have a Corvette. They can make as many specialized Mustangs as they desire, and make them as exclusive as they desire, because they don't have a (reasonable) price bracket above the Mustang to create a cost/performance ceiling FOR the Stang.....GM already has that cost/performace ceiling......the Vette. Really, the GT500 IS Ford's Corvette. If GM puts the Z28 out of our reach (price or otherwise,) they piss off us "blue collar" performance lusting types and push us toward the Vette.....or even elsewhere, which is bad for the Maro either way, no?
...I'm not sure what you consider "out of reach"...but it IS going to be an 500+ supercharged super-car: for GT-500 moneys no doubt. (around 40k) I don't believe the demand for it is going to be super-high when compared to the SS .
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:35 PM   #12
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I am thinking that the LS3 will be an engine. I had the opportunity to get a ride in a 07 Vette last summer with an automatic and an LS3, and this engine is WICKED! I had a 69 Camaro, a 70 Chevelle with 300hp 350 and had friends with 69 Z28's and that 07 Vette brought back memories I had not had since the 70's! It didn't shift out of 1st gear till 75mph and had plenty of engine left! And this is with the traction computer ON! Weight and balance will be excellent with the all aluminum engine. I am also thinking the LS7 will be in the mix sometime as it is going into the Cadillac V Series soon. Also, keep in mind that ford (lack of caps intentional) already has a mustang with a 427...

As for the 300 HP V6, I rented a CTS last winter and I felt like I was driving a muscle car. I kept on goosing it just to hear the exhaust and feel the lurch of power. I know when Camaro fans think of 6 cylinders, the 250 straight six comes to mind, but trust me, this is not your 1st generation staight six!!!

There has also been talk of a 4 cylinder,and what I hear is the 2.0 liter with the turbo. This is the HHR SS, Cobalt SS and Sky/Solstice motor. Before you condemn GM for doing this, rent a Solstice or Sky this summer and see how well it performs. I am planning on doing this and will post some feedback...
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We're more hoping that the base has an LS3 (and we're pretty confident that it will, at worst it may have the L76 which would still be secksee)...the top dog is anybody's guess right now.

And again, I'd like to point out that there's no point in saying "Z/28" or "SS" with the 5th gen...noone knows what model will be higher at this point.
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And again, I'd like to point out that there's no point in saying "Z/28" or "SS" with the 5th gen...noone knows what model will be higher at this point.
Or do they??


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I am thinking that the LS3 will be an engine. I had the opportunity to get a ride in a 07 Vette last summer with an automatic and an LS3, and this engine is WICKED! I had a 69 Camaro, a 70 Chevelle with 300hp 350 and had friends with 69 Z28's and that 07 Vette brought back memories I had not had since the 70's! It didn't shift out of 1st gear till 75mph and had plenty of engine left! And this is with the traction computer ON! Weight and balance will be excellent with the all aluminum engine. I am also thinking the LS7 will be in the mix sometime as it is going into the Cadillac V Series soon. Also, keep in mind that ford (lack of caps intentional) already has a mustang with a 427...

As for the 300 HP V6, I rented a CTS last winter and I felt like I was driving a muscle car. I kept on goosing it just to hear the exhaust and feel the lurch of power. I know when Camaro fans think of 6 cylinders, the 250 straight six comes to mind, but trust me, this is not your 1st generation staight six!!!

There has also been talk of a 4 cylinder,and what I hear is the 2.0 liter with the turbo. This is the HHR SS, Cobalt SS and Sky/Solstice motor. Before you condemn GM for doing this, rent a Solstice or Sky this summer and see how well it performs. I am planning on doing this and will post some feedback...
Welcome! Always good to see new members. However, there are a few things that we've picked up here that you might not have.

Sadly, we have heard that the LS7 is being phased out. It is not going into any Caddy as far as I know. I still think it would make an awesome ZL1 though, but its not going to come from the factory in a Camaro. There is the LSA which is a supercharged variant of the LS3. THAT is going into the CTS-V, power is expected to be around 550 hp, but it will weigh a bit more because of the supercharger+intercooler. Its also expected in the top Camaro, now likely to be called the Z28 (no official confirmation -yet)

Lastly, what mustang has a 427 cu (7L) engine?
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:10 AM   #16
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Let me ask ya'll this...

There's a lot of hype about this car, right? Maybe even more than the Challenger?

Would ya'll agree that there's going to be a VERY high demand for the top of the line model?....I'm guessing Z28?

And...would ya'll agree that GM could EASILY sell EVERY....SINGLE....ONE of them w/out a single problem?

And...how did Dodge handle the release w/ their Challengers....

I don't know when it's going to happen. But, something here makes complete sense to me.
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:07 PM   #17
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Didn't quite undertand what you were asking/suggesting.

Are you saying that GM is taking note of the SRT8 selling out so quickly, and will probably make a large number of Z28s? That's how I read it.

Or are you suggesting the Camaro top dog may come out first?
If any of that was clarified...there would be no guessing. And TAG couldn't say "If tell you, it does not mean that I don't have the chance to untell you in the event there isn't not a problem with telling it."
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:38 PM   #18
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Oh man. All the suspence. I like the sound of 12 months down the line after the initial release. It will teach me patience. Then I can make my decision as to which model I want. I may be leaning to the stock V8 now after watching the last Nurenenenburg clips.
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Didn't quite undertand what you were asking/suggesting.

Are you saying that GM is taking note of the SRT8 selling out so quickly, and will probably make a large number of Z28s? That's how I read it.

Or are you suggesting the Camaro top dog may come out first?
What do you think?

Honestly, I have no honest, unfactually incorrect information that if told, woudn't reveal false and/or true information that would uncover speculative facts.
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If any of that was clarified...there would be no guessing. And TAG couldn't say "If tell you, it does not mean that I don't have the chance to untell you in the event there isn't not a problem with telling it."

^What he said.
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TAG is running for office with posts like these..lol
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Avalibility ?

It seems to be the general consensus that the top dog will not be avaliable for 6-8 months after the standard v8 comes out. Has this been confirmed by anyone? Will there be a top dog at Indy? Will we know what the top dog will be by indy, along with all of it's options? I guess what I'm getting at is will we know exactly what it will be by the time Indy rolls around, and we will just not be able to order it? Maybe we will be able order it when the first round of cars are order, we just will not get it for a while???

What are everyones thoughts???
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I don't think anyone knows much of anything. It seems like the top dog will be out in about the timeframe you're thinking; that makes some sense. I doubt we'll see more than the official Camaro at Indy, although that would be friggin' great. I think we're just supposed to see pretty close to the final car with most of the options and features it will be available with. It would be cool to see any accessories that GM's been working on too, but I'm not so sure about that. We probably won't be able to start buying until March or so of '09 although I'm sure ordering will commence before that.

I think that it's been hinted we'll be getting more information about a top dog and or accessories through spy leaks of TF2. I thought I remembered 'Father saying that hints could be dropped along those lines, although don't quote me on that.

The timeline I've put together: unveilling at Indy of the Production Model; deliveries around March of '09 for coupes; 'Verts come in around December of '09; any top dog models for the spring to summer of '10. I'd be great if it would be sooner though!
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Yeah, I was also thinking spring to summer of '10 unfortunately. It would be great to see them on the road by at least fall of 09.
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It seems to be the general consensus that the top dog will not be avaliable for 6-8 months after the standard v8 comes out. Has this been confirmed by anyone? Will there be a top dog at Indy? Will we know what the top dog will be by indy, along with all of it's options? I guess what I'm getting at is will we know exactly what it will be by the time Indy rolls around, and we will just not be able to order it? Maybe we will be able order it when the first round of cars are order, we just will not get it for a while???

What are everyones thoughts???
I think that the verts and the top dog will be out at roughly the same time, probably in the fall of 2009.
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