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khislop007 · 11-27-2009, 07:34 PM

Well I installed the 8W high powered LED from v-leds today.

Still haven't gotten around to installing the zeners to have them come on in the day.

(I used a flashlight and shined it on the photocell for the DRL's to come on in the night just to see how they would look, if your wondering how I got them to come on)

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...26829-1-2.html

I also pre-ordered the P13W and I hope they are as bright as these!! The reason I ordered the P13W's is because I prefer to have the direct replacement bulb.

I also noticed 3 of the LED's on one of the bulbs was flickering then went off, this might be because some DRLs use a lower voltage, (not sure if this is the case with the camaro but I might check the voltage on it tomorrow with a meter) so I removed the bulb and hooked it up to a 12V power supply and left it on for a while and the 3 LEDs stay on fine.

thebrainhart · 11-27-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khislop007

Well I installed the 8W high powered LED from v-leds today.

Still haven't gotten around to installing the zeners to have them come on in the day.

(I used a flashlight and shined it on the photocell for the DRL's to come on in the night just to see how they would look, if your wondering how I got them to come on)

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...26829-1-2.html

I also pre-ordered the P13W and I hope they are as bright as these!! The reason I ordered the P13W's is because I prefer to have the direct replacement bulb.

I also noticed 3 of the LED's on one of the bulbs was flickering then went off, this might be because some DRLs use a lower voltage, (not sure if this is the case with the camaro but I might check the voltage on it tomorrow with a meter) so I removed the bulb and hooked it up to a 12V power supply and left it on for a while and the 3 LEDs stay on fine.

Wow, those are pretty bright!

The DRLs do run on a lower voltage, though I dont have the numbers to show it. That could be the problem with those 3 diodes. Do both bulbs do it? If not, I'd try sending it back and get a new one.

FrankT · 12-08-2009, 05:31 PM

The DRL's are run from the BCM with a PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation) signal. This is true for for the RS (T4F) and the non-RS (T4A) cars. This is why you are not seeing full voltage at the DRL's. You could work around this using a relay, but it would involve some rewiring. I'm discussing this in my car's thread here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47925. I'll post information as I figure it out.

USN Ordy · 12-28-2009, 06:24 AM

Did the zener mod this weekend and now want to change to LEDs. Any suggestions for another site to get the bulbs from? V-leds is out of stock (probably because of this post!).

camarossowner · 12-29-2009, 08:04 PM

Well hello all. I have a 2SS none rs but now I have made it a rs car with orange halo's and soon orange halo's and hid's for my fog lights too. Here is the picture of the car. Sorry for the mess garage. Car looks great at night too.

camarossowner · 01-02-2010, 05:49 PM

here are the fog lights and I installed 8000w HID"S too.

monstertodd · 01-15-2010, 04:15 PM

I did the zener diode mod today. Is it just my imagination or do my foglights look really dim??

BlownSS · 01-15-2010, 05:19 PM

they look dim because chevy never meant them to be a light for you to be able to see......they were made for a DRL so others can see you. I did the same mod and when i did it, I also did the led bulb/ socket upgrade and now they have a purpose. Do you think they are more dim since before you did the mod?

monstertodd · 01-15-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by billyjk7

they look dim because chevy never meant them to be a light for you to be able to see......they were made for a DRL so others can see you. I did the same mod and when i did it, I also did the led bulb/ socket upgrade and now they have a purpose. Do you think they are more dim since before you did the mod?

Yeah I'm thinking they look dimmer than before I started the mod. I'm not sure how that would be possible though.

thebrainhart · 01-16-2010, 01:40 AM

There is a slight difference in brightness from DRL mode to fog mode. But the DRL mode should not have been effected in any way.

Pull up to a building with glass, in daylight, so you can see the lights in the reflection, then turn your park lights on and off, and watch the difference.

The main reason for the difference (I think), is that when in fog mode, we borrow voltage and amperage from a source that is already dealing it out to something else. So that source is now powering 2 things, instead of 1, with the same voltage and amperage, causing them to be slightly dimmer.

You dont notice it as much with LED fogs, so you'll have to do that one next!

khislop007 · 01-16-2010, 06:03 PM

Damn monstertodd, your car is freakin low

monstertodd · 01-16-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by khislop007

Damn monstertodd, your car is freakin low

lol, just lowered the front end about an inch.

monstertodd · 01-16-2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebrainhart

There is a slight difference in brightness from DRL mode to fog mode. But the DRL mode should not have been effected in any way.

Pull up to a building with glass, in daylight, so you can see the lights in the reflection, then turn your park lights on and off, and watch the difference.

The main reason for the difference (I think), is that when in fog mode, we borrow voltage and amperage from a source that is already dealing it out to something else. So that source is now powering 2 things, instead of 1, with the same voltage and amperage, causing them to be slightly dimmer.

You dont notice it as much with LED fogs, so you'll have to do that one next!

I compared the foglights on all three modes. DRL's, parking lights, and manual head light mode. There is no difference in brightness of the foglights.

qbert48 · 01-16-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by khislop007

Damn monstertodd, your car is freakin low

agreed

Treefrog · 01-17-2010, 07:48 PM

What LED bulbs are we using now for this mod? Is anyone making LEDs to fit the RS DRL housing yet? I'm out of the loop.. haha

thebrainhart · 04-12-2010, 12:35 AM

Looks like V-LEDs bulbs are back in stock if anybody was looking for some.
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/B...35716-1-2.html

I've had these bulbs and sockets in place now since September, and over 6,000 miles, temperatures from 17 to 90 degrees, through heavy rain, hard winds, sleet, and even snow

with zero problems. No water in the housings, and the bulbs/sockets are still in there tight!

Darth V8R · 04-19-2010, 08:05 PM

Just did mine today following thebrainhart's instructions using V-LEDs bulbs. I'll have to get a better shot at night, but I'm already a huge fan of the look vs the stock yellow color.

Darth V8R · 04-19-2010, 08:43 PM

Here's a better shot of the lights (try to ignore the bugs all over the front bumper...):

TaylorRyanSS · 04-19-2010, 10:24 PM

The plug and play harness from adaptive fell out, I just noticed it. I hope its still connected to one side and not on the street somewhere. I need to check tomorrow. Is anyone elses loose? I noticed when I plugged it in it would click into place, I had a feeling it would come loose. I probably need to tape it.

Primus · 04-20-2010, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebrainhart

Looks like V-LEDs bulbs are back in stock if anybody was looking for some.
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/B...35716-1-2.html

I've had these bulbs and sockets in place now since September, and over 6,000 miles, temperatures from 17 to 90 degrees, through heavy rain, hard winds, sleet, and even snow

with zero problems. No water in the housings, and the bulbs/sockets are still in there tight!

So, those aren't a plug and play replacement, right?

thebrainhart · 04-21-2010, 01:10 AM

No they are not, you'll have to swap out the sockets to use them (see post 30).
They work great, are easy to do, and cost no more than $45 to do (Including bulbs), plus using those sockets opens the door to hundreds of different LEDs or incandescent bulbs, of any color, if you want even more options!

se7en · 05-10-2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebrainhart

No they are not, you'll have to swap out the sockets to use them (see post 30).
They work great, are easy to do, and cost no more than $45 to do (Including bulbs), plus using those sockets opens the door to hundreds of different LEDs or incandescent bulbs, of any color, if you want even more options!

I just ordered 2 of the 921's using the link in your post. My total price with shipping was like $72 and that was just for the lights without the socket.

Do they come in a set of 2 and i just ordered 4?

$45?

se7en · 05-10-2010, 04:26 AM

Just answered my own question....... i see now in small writing where it say's "1pair" Shit!! lol

Oh well..... ive got extra's now. Wonder if they will work on any other part of the car? Does anybody know?

thebrainhart · 05-11-2010, 01:35 AM

Do'h

I don't think they will fit anywhere else on our cars... possibly the license plate (though they may be too big), but V-LEDs sells some really nice ones that work perfectly for our license plates... Maybe you can call and cancel one pair?

Actually, now I think about it, they may fit in the dome light and trunk light... but they may be too big for that....

JEFF2010SSMANUAL · 05-26-2010, 09:59 AM

I can't seem to find the thread/post on the harness to make the DRL/FOG's and HALO's come on at the same time? I DON'T want to cut/chop OEM wires. Where do I get this?

Sorry if its on this thread, I am tired of searching, and did a search-couldn't find ?

11-27-2009, 07:34 PM	#76
khislop007 ZEUSS Drives: Hard! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 2,572 View My Garage	Well I installed the 8W high powered LED from v-leds today. Still haven't gotten around to installing the zeners to have them come on in the day. (I used a flashlight and shined it on the photocell for the DRL's to come on in the night just to see how they would look, if your wondering how I got them to come on) http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...26829-1-2.html I also pre-ordered the P13W and I hope they are as bright as these!! The reason I ordered the P13W's is because I prefer to have the direct replacement bulb. I also noticed 3 of the LED's on one of the bulbs was flickering then went off, this might be because some DRLs use a lower voltage, (not sure if this is the case with the camaro but I might check the voltage on it tomorrow with a meter) so I removed the bulb and hooked it up to a 12V power supply and left it on for a while and the 3 LEDs stay on fine. Attached Images __________________

12-08-2009, 05:31 PM	#78
FrankT 400HP used to be enough.. Drives: 2010 2SS rs manual Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Central NC Posts: 597	The DRL's are run from the BCM with a PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation) signal. This is true for for the RS (T4F) and the non-RS (T4A) cars. This is why you are not seeing full voltage at the DRL's. You could work around this using a relay, but it would involve some rewiring. I'm discussing this in my car's thread here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47925. I'll post information as I figure it out. __________________ Currently in the fleet... 2010 ZR1 Corvette, 2011 Cadillac CTS-V, 2010 Camaro SS single turbo, 1967 Camaro SS350, 1969 Camaro SS427. Stock is boring!

12-29-2009, 08:04 PM	#80
camarossowner Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS Black Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: PORT ORCHARD, WA Posts: 734 View My Garage	Well hello all. I have a 2SS none rs but now I have made it a rs car with orange halo's and soon orange halo's and hid's for my fog lights too. Here is the picture of the car. Sorry for the mess garage. Car looks great at night too. Attached Images

01-02-2010, 05:49 PM	#81
camarossowner Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS Black Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: PORT ORCHARD, WA Posts: 734 View My Garage	here are the fog lights and I installed 8000w HID"S too. Attached Images Last edited by camarossowner; 01-03-2010 at 12:04 AM.

01-15-2010, 04:15 PM	#82
monstertodd Allyourbasearebelongtous Drives: 2010 Cyber Grey Metallic 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina Posts: 3,470 View My Garage	I did the zener diode mod today. Is it just my imagination or do my foglights look really dim?? __________________

12-28-2009, 06:24 AM	#79
USN Ordy Drives: Black 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS, M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 45	Did the zener mod this weekend and now want to change to LEDs. Any suggestions for another site to get the bulbs from? V-leds is out of stock (probably because of this post!).

01-15-2010, 05:19 PM	#83
BlownSS Firefighter / Paramedic Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lincoln Nebraska Posts: 1,535	they look dim because chevy never meant them to be a light for you to be able to see......they were made for a DRL so others can see you. I did the same mod and when i did it, I also did the led bulb/ socket upgrade and now they have a purpose. Do you think they are more dim since before you did the mod? __________________ 2010 IOM SS/RS LS3, Hennessey HPE550 Polished Magnuson TVS2300 Supercharger

01-16-2010, 01:40 AM	#85
thebrainhart Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bountiful, UT Posts: 686	There is a slight difference in brightness from DRL mode to fog mode. But the DRL mode should not have been effected in any way. Pull up to a building with glass, in daylight, so you can see the lights in the reflection, then turn your park lights on and off, and watch the difference. The main reason for the difference (I think), is that when in fog mode, we borrow voltage and amperage from a source that is already dealing it out to something else. So that source is now powering 2 things, instead of 1, with the same voltage and amperage, causing them to be slightly dimmer. You dont notice it as much with LED fogs, so you'll have to do that one next! __________________ - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 "Lurch" - FLYNGSS - Some ECS, Alky, CompCams, Kooks, JDP Motorsports, Pfadt, BMR, Prothane, RKSport, RX, ACS, Garys, Street Scene, Defenderworx, Anvil, etc. - 1995 Camaro Z28 Turbo'd 383 LT1 - FLYNZ28 - 2001 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 8.1L

01-16-2010, 06:03 PM	#86
khislop007 ZEUSS Drives: Hard! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 2,572 View My Garage	Damn monstertodd, your car is freakin low __________________

01-17-2010, 07:48 PM	#90
Treefrog U235 is fun! Drives: CGM 2SS/M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florence, AL Posts: 298	What LED bulbs are we using now for this mod? Is anyone making LEDs to fit the RS DRL housing yet? I'm out of the loop.. haha

04-12-2010, 12:35 AM	#91
thebrainhart Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bountiful, UT Posts: 686	Looks like V-LEDs bulbs are back in stock if anybody was looking for some. http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/B...35716-1-2.html I've had these bulbs and sockets in place now since September, and over 6,000 miles, temperatures from 17 to 90 degrees, through heavy rain, hard winds, sleet, and even snow with zero problems. No water in the housings, and the bulbs/sockets are still in there tight! __________________ - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 "Lurch" - FLYNGSS - Some ECS, Alky, CompCams, Kooks, JDP Motorsports, Pfadt, BMR, Prothane, RKSport, RX, ACS, Garys, Street Scene, Defenderworx, Anvil, etc. - 1995 Camaro Z28 Turbo'd 383 LT1 - FLYNZ28 - 2001 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 8.1L

04-19-2010, 08:05 PM	#92
Darth V8R I'm on a horse Drives: Black 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 513 View My Garage	Just did mine today following thebrainhart's instructions using V-LEDs bulbs. I'll have to get a better shot at night, but I'm already a huge fan of the look vs the stock yellow color. Attached Images

04-19-2010, 08:43 PM	#93
Darth V8R I'm on a horse Drives: Black 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 513 View My Garage	Here's a better shot of the lights (try to ignore the bugs all over the front bumper...): Attached Images

04-19-2010, 10:24 PM	#94
TaylorRyanSS COTW: 12/13/10 Drives: '12 370Z, '69 Camaro coming soon! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 7,828	The plug and play harness from adaptive fell out, I just noticed it. I hope its still connected to one side and not on the street somewhere. I need to check tomorrow. Is anyone elses loose? I noticed when I plugged it in it would click into place, I had a feeling it would come loose. I probably need to tape it. __________________ "Are you one of those boys who prefer cars to women? - I'm one of those boys that appreciates a fine body, regardless of the make." 2010 CAMARO SOLD! JOURNAL: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119635 \| FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/taylor.ryan.apt \| GRAPHIC DESIGN: www.aptdesigns.net

04-21-2010, 01:10 AM	#96
thebrainhart Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bountiful, UT Posts: 686	No they are not, you'll have to swap out the sockets to use them (see post 30). They work great, are easy to do, and cost no more than $45 to do (Including bulbs), plus using those sockets opens the door to hundreds of different LEDs or incandescent bulbs, of any color, if you want even more options! __________________ - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 "Lurch" - FLYNGSS - Some ECS, Alky, CompCams, Kooks, JDP Motorsports, Pfadt, BMR, Prothane, RKSport, RX, ACS, Garys, Street Scene, Defenderworx, Anvil, etc. - 1995 Camaro Z28 Turbo'd 383 LT1 - FLYNZ28 - 2001 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 8.1L

05-10-2010, 04:26 AM	#98
se7en Drives: 87 Pinto on 32's Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,494	Just answered my own question....... i see now in small writing where it say's "1pair" Shit!! lol Oh well..... ive got extra's now. Wonder if they will work on any other part of the car? Does anybody know?

05-11-2010, 01:35 AM	#99
thebrainhart Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bountiful, UT Posts: 686	Do'h I don't think they will fit anywhere else on our cars... possibly the license plate (though they may be too big), but V-LEDs sells some really nice ones that work perfectly for our license plates... Maybe you can call and cancel one pair? Actually, now I think about it, they may fit in the dome light and trunk light... but they may be too big for that.... __________________ - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS CGM LS3 A6 "Lurch" - FLYNGSS - Some ECS, Alky, CompCams, Kooks, JDP Motorsports, Pfadt, BMR, Prothane, RKSport, RX, ACS, Garys, Street Scene, Defenderworx, Anvil, etc. - 1995 Camaro Z28 Turbo'd 383 LT1 - FLYNZ28 - 2001 Silverado 2500HD CCSB 8.1L

05-26-2010, 09:59 AM	#100
JEFF2010SSMANUAL JEFF2010SSMANUAL Drives: IOM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Northern IL Posts: 1,954	I can't seem to find the thread/post on the harness to make the DRL/FOG's and HALO's come on at the same time? I DON'T want to cut/chop OEM wires. Where do I get this? Sorry if its on this thread, I am tired of searching, and did a search-couldn't find ?

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