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Old 12-22-2006, 11:41 AM   #1
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America!!!

This thread is for the support of america and to stand proud as a free american to live in a country that gives me the opportunities to succeed in my life to pursue my goals and be able lay my head down at night with the knowledge that I am in a place where peace has a fighting chance.

Everyday I see more and more about the worlds view on us and our great country. I see the hate for our freedoms , the putdowns for our auto industries and the lack of humanity towards our people in other countries.
The more I see this I remember why my grandfather faught over in the ww2 and my uncle in vietnam. I love the america I was raised in , I am one who is proud to salute the flag that stands for freedom and I salute those who fight for our and others peace that maybe one day peace and freedom may ring throughout the world.

In these times of prejudices and negatives that we see and hear about everyday ,we seem to forget or over look the love and courage and positives that are all around us everyday.

This christmas or what ever holiday you celebrate I hope you all remember the things we all have and that the camaro like everything else was created by those who pursued happiness and pushed on to have a better life for others!!
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Old 12-22-2006, 08:40 PM   #3
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USA #1! Special thanks to all of our troops past and present that allow us to have the freedoms and prosperity that so many take for granted. Without those that fight for us, we would be just another 2nd or 3rd world country without rights or the potential for individual financial independence. Well said jbynum69!
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This thread needs a good refresh.......the sentiment expressed by the OP so many years ago still rings TRUE and should in the hearts and minds of all.
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This thread needs a good refresh.......the sentiment expressed by the OP so many years ago still rings TRUE and should in the hearts and minds of all.
I agree Sir Nuke. That was a great post.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:45 AM   #7
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I don't mean to insult this thread, but this made me think of a certain video that kind of sums up how I feel these days. It has some NSFW language.

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that video is retarded.


United States ftw
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explain why video is retarded...
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:19 AM   #10
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explain why video is retarded...
because it is the greatest country in the world...imo.

is it perfect? absolutely not. no country is. Still think it's the greatest in the world though.

edit: i mean, he says we aren't the greatest country anymore. please tell me what is the greatest? maybe he should have said we aren't as great as we once were, but I still think we are the greatest.
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because it is the greatest country in the world...imo.

is it perfect? absolutely not. no country is. Still think it's the greatest in the world though.

edit: i mean, he says we aren't the greatest country anymore. please tell me what is the greatest? maybe he should have said we aren't as great as we once were, but I still think we are the greatest.
i can see your point......the part about education being lower is a bunch of BS!!!we as a country test everyone ! it doesn't matter if you are retarded! you will take the test to see where we rank in the world...other country dont do this ,,,,other country's test there very best student !!! for example china only test upper 10% the rest R Not included!!!!! this is a political football that liberals use to push their agenda
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i can see your point......the part about education being lower is a bunch of BS!!!we as a country test everyone ! it doesn't matter if you are retarded! you will take the test to see where we rank in the world...other country dont do this ,,,,other country's test there very best student !!! for example china only test upper 10% the rest R Not included!!!!! this is a political football that liberals use to push their agenda
I love that scene from the newsroom.

It's perfect I think.
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At first I was angry as I listened to his response, but as he continued I found myself agreeing more and more. "We used to be". Doesn't mean we can't or won't be again. A lot has changed in the world, as well as within our own country since this original post. I'm not quite as proud of my country as I used to be. Maybe one day we will once again be that "Shining city on a hill."
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New Zealand leads the way in human freedom according to an international index that ranks 123 countries.

The Canadian Fraser Institute has released its report evaluating how each country measures in security and safety, movement, expression and relationship freedoms.

New Zealand topped the index as offering the highest level of human freedom worldwide, followed by the Netherlands and Hong Kong.

Australia came in fourth. The US ranked seventh.

The United Kingdom ranked 18th, ahead of France at 33 and Germany, which came in 35th on the list.

The lowest-ranked countries were Zimbabwe, Burma, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Syria.

The index was contained in a new book, Towards a Worldwide Index of Human Freedom, which examined the characteristics of freedom and how it could best be measured and compared between different nations.

The book's editor, Fred McMahon, said the intention was to measure the degree to which people were free to enjoy classic civil liberties-freedom of speech, religion, individual economic choice, and association and assembly-in each country surveyed.

"We also look at indicators of crime and violence, freedom of movement, legal discrimination against homosexuals, and women's freedoms."

The Fraser Institute is an independent Canadian public policy research and educational organisation.

Top 10 Countries:

1. New Zealand

2. Netherlands

3. Hong Kong

4. Australia

4. Canada

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7. United States of America

7. Denmark

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9. Estonia
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because it is the greatest country in the world...imo.

is it perfect? absolutely not. no country is. Still think it's the greatest in the world though.

edit: i mean, he says we aren't the greatest country anymore. please tell me what is the greatest? maybe he should have said we aren't as great as we once were, but I still think we are the greatest.
The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009, it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population.

Land of the free? Something like 25% of the worlds population of prisoners?

The us has so many problems. It is very far from a even a 'decent' country imho.

That's not to say the country has amazing potential. Once the populace realizes how hard they are getting raped by the banks and the wealthy, maybe democracy will enact a change. Hopefully before the military prison industrial complex is finished taking all of your rights away.

1 easy way to fix, Legalize and create a hemp based industry. Jobs for the unemployed of every type, manufacturing, bio fuel creation to lessen the impact on corn crops, etc etc. Grows almost everywhere, cleans soil... But its an EVIL PLANT RAWRRRRR. Hopefully we can lose those idiots that have been brainwashed into thinking this.
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The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009, it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population.

Land of the free? Something like 25% of the worlds population of prisoners?

The us has so many problems. It is very far from a even a 'decent' country imho.
We may have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world, but you have to take into fact that one third of those are illegal aliens. Not even U.S. citizens. Don't forget how large the U.S. is too.
Yes,...land of the FREE and home of the BRAVE brother. And they are "prisoners" for a reason. They commit the crime,....they do the time. They don't deserve to be "free". What does Canada do with it's bad people?
The U.S. does have problems,...but you know what? I can buy any car that I want, have as many children as I want, say what I want, to a certain extent, and think how I want.
So,....yeah, the good ole' U.S. of A. is the best Country on the planet.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:15 PM   #18
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I don't mean to insult this thread, but this made me think of a certain video that kind of sums up how I feel these days. It has some NSFW language.

Pretty much how I feel. I'm slowly losing faith here. I think that unless people wake up within the next few years, that's it. America is probably going to cross the point of no return towards collapse within this decade. Or the point of no return without significant pain. Much more pain than what could occur now if we tried to fix some of our problems such as the massive debt.
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We may have the highest documented incarceration rate in the world, but you have to take into fact that one third of those are illegal aliens. Not even U.S. citizens. Don't forget how large the U.S. is too.
Yes,...land of the FREE and home of the BRAVE brother. And they are "prisoners" for a reason. They commit the crime,....they do the time. They don't deserve to be "free". What does Canada do with it's bad people?
The U.S. does have problems,...but you know what? I can buy any car that I want, have as many children as I want, say what I want, to a certain extent, and think how I want.
So,....yeah, the good ole' U.S. of A. is the best Country on the planet.
Hell yeah, brother! AMEN!

Part of this countries largest problem...well, problems... is that 1, people who do the crime do NOT do the time. Too many times, criminals are given probation and a fine for whatever crimes they have done. Does that teach a lesson? Pay your city X amount of dollars and don't do it again? Um...no. Not a freaking chance. These guys KNOW what they are doing and they KNOW the system. They even have funds set up within their gangs, families, etc to pay for their bail so they can get right back out and do it all over again. Ask me how I know this.... The only way criminals are ever going to learn is if they do the actual time they are sentenced to. A one year sentence SHOULD be one year. It shouldn't be 2 months and hey, ...we need the extra room for the other bad guys.

Our city has doubled in size over the last 15 years. DOUBLED. Our prison system? Hasn't changed. No new prisons, same old jail... How can we punish those who commit crimes now. Build more prisons? That's what I think... Teach them that the system can't be jacked with and the actual harsher punishment will make them think twice.

AAAAAAnnnnd 2, government assistance. When people know how the system works, they squeeze every drop out of it that they can. It's a mother freaking joke. Again, ask me how I know this.

We need to quit handing out free money and start making people work for it. if they don't want to work, fug'em. I'm sick of watching people use Lone Star cards (gov't asst cards supposed to be used for FOOD) to pay for people's GASOLINE and CIGARETTES. Again, ask me how I know.

Our system IS jacked up. But, it can be fixed. The only problem? No one gives a shit who is IN office now to actually fix it the RIGHT way.
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I fear this thread is bordering on "poltics", which is verbotten, but I'll play while it lasts. There is no other place I would rather live than the USA. Does that make it "the greatest country in the world"? No. We used to lead the world in so many of the positive categories mentioned in that clip but we are now failing miserably in just trying to keep up with mediocrity. We are better than this but, if the American people don't start moving back toward the values, beliefs, morals, and the damn hard work it takes to be "the greatest" (again), we are destined to be second-rate forever. The past two to three generations have systematically allowed our leaders in DC to become career-minded self-centered morons who don't give a damn about anything but being re-elected. And THEY are allowing our world-wide stature to gradually sink to the bottom of the barrel. We are getting what we deserve.
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Hell yeah, brother! AMEN!

Part of this countries largest problem...well, problems... is that 1, people who do the crime do NOT do the time. Too many times, criminals are given probation and a fine for whatever crimes they have done. Does that teach a lesson? Pay your city X amount of dollars and don't do it again? Um...no. Not a freaking chance. These guys KNOW what they are doing and they KNOW the system. They even have funds set up within their gangs, families, etc to pay for their bail so they can get right back out and do it all over again. Ask me how I know this.... The only way criminals are ever going to learn is if they do the actual time they are sentenced to. A one year sentence SHOULD be one year. It shouldn't be 2 months and hey, ...we need the extra room for the other bad guys.

Our city has doubled in size over the last 15 years. DOUBLED. Our prison system? Hasn't changed. No new prisons, same old jail... How can we punish those who commit crimes now. Build more prisons? That's what I think... Teach them that the system can't be jacked with and the actual harsher punishment will make them think twice.

AAAAAAnnnnd 2, government assistance. When people know how the system works, they squeeze every drop out of it that they can. It's a mother freaking joke. Again, ask me how I know this.

We need to quit handing out free money and start making people work for it. if they don't want to work, fug'em. I'm sick of watching people use Lone Star cards (gov't asst cards supposed to be used for FOOD) to pay for people's GASOLINE and CIGARETTES. Again, ask me how I know.

Our system IS jacked up. But, it can be fixed. The only problem? No one gives a shit who is IN office now to actually fix it the RIGHT way.
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Hell yeah, brother! AMEN!

Part of this countries largest problem...well, problems... is that 1, people who do the crime do NOT do the time. Too many times, criminals are given probation and a fine for whatever crimes they have done. Does that teach a lesson? Pay your city X amount of dollars and don't do it again? Um...no. Not a freaking chance. These guys KNOW what they are doing and they KNOW the system. They even have funds set up within their gangs, families, etc to pay for their bail so they can get right back out and do it all over again. Ask me how I know this.... The only way criminals are ever going to learn is if they do the actual time they are sentenced to. A one year sentence SHOULD be one year. It shouldn't be 2 months and hey, ...we need the extra room for the other bad guys.

Our city has doubled in size over the last 15 years. DOUBLED. Our prison system? Hasn't changed. No new prisons, same old jail... How can we punish those who commit crimes now. Build more prisons? That's what I think... Teach them that the system can't be jacked with and the actual harsher punishment will make them think twice.

AAAAAAnnnnd 2, government assistance. When people know how the system works, they squeeze every drop out of it that they can. It's a mother freaking joke. Again, ask me how I know this.

We need to quit handing out free money and start making people work for it. if they don't want to work, fug'em. I'm sick of watching people use Lone Star cards (gov't asst cards supposed to be used for FOOD) to pay for people's GASOLINE and CIGARETTES. Again, ask me how I know.

Our system IS jacked up. But, it can be fixed. The only problem? No one gives a shit who is IN office now to actually fix it the RIGHT way.
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...positive and negative posts aside...

I've visited the aforementioned "top 6" & they have all have serious pitfalls which easily compel me to stick with... A M E R I C A.

Regardless of all the pitfalls mentioned about the USA... there's no place like home.
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...positive and negative posts aside...

I've visited the aforementioned "top 6" & they have all have serious pitfalls which easily compel me to stick with... A M E R I C A.

Regardless of all the pitfalls mentioned about the USA... there's no place like home.
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