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Old 09-26-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Zaino Help please..what did I do wrong!!

Hey guys after owning my 2SS for a month it was time to start the Zaino process. Did all the beginning steps (aside from clay) washed it with the Zaino wash last night and put it in the garage. This morning I started with Z-5(black SS) I did the entire car before I started buffing it off. Then I just started wiping off where I started first applying. Well it all looked great IN THE GARAGE...when I backed it out into the sunlight there was swirls and tons of left over z-5 but it wasnt because I missed the spot it wasnt really coming off! I had to go over it with Z-6 spray to get it off and it still wasnt perfect in spots?? Like it baked in almost . I finally after going over it a million times got most of it off and it looks ok?? I let it all dry about 45 minutes. @ 69 deg. I was planning on going to z2 now and finish her off but I am worried...
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:22 PM   #2
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Did you remember to add the hardener catalyst? If it wasn't in the right proportions or its humid outside its going to take a while for it to set up. just let it dry for a while then test a small area to see if its dried. Its a great product, just behaves a little different that the wax your used to probably.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:24 PM   #3
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Sounds like you forgot step #1 - wash with DAWN DISH SOAP! Theres a reason for this step.
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yeah, did you wash with dawn?
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:40 PM   #5
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I must admit I didn't! I assumed it being a brand new car with no previous wax ever on it it would be ok?? I even read somewhere that with a brand new car this step wasnt necassary....what should I do now??
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:42 PM   #6
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Oh and I did add the hardner in the mixing bottles. I filled the bottle 1/2 way and added 5 drops.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:43 PM   #7
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I think your talking about using a clay bar? just start the process over, wash and apply the zaino again.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:44 PM   #8
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using dish soap eats at a cars clear coat.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:48 PM   #9
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my clear coat eats dish soap.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:57 PM   #10
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I must admit I didn't! I assumed it being a brand new car with no previous wax ever on it it would be ok?? I even read somewhere that with a brand new car this step wasnt necassary....what should I do now??
No telling what it got wiped down with at the dealer before you picked it up. If they used a quick detalier then it has wax in it of some sort.

Hit that thing with Dawn and start over
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:57 PM   #11
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#1. ZAINO IS VERY HARD TO USE ON DARK CARS. PERIOD. I swore off Zaino on my black Corvette but began using it again on the SIM Camaro. Its lots and lots and lots of work on dark colors.

#2. Once you think you are all said and done, the car will still be streaky. Wash it with Zaino wash amd use the Z6 gloss enhancer and the Z8 grand finale. It will look amazing, just be prepared for LOTS of work on black.

#3. START OVER! wash with dawn, clay, wash with dawn again. Let sit overnight to dry, do this: Z5, Z6, Z2, Z6, Z2, Z6, Z8. You will only need one coat of Z5 as the swirls/scratches should be minimal. The Z2 is the real bread winner. Once you do all that, you are good to go. Remember DO NOT PRESS HARD with the clay, let the clay do the work. If it is still all streaked when you are done, refer to #2.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:59 PM   #12
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AGM ...no clay bar. I was talking about mixing the Z-5 with the hardner drops included in the ZFX kit. When you want to apply mutiple layers in the same day.
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Old 09-26-2009, 04:34 PM   #13
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Do not put any presure on the applicator when applying zaino..it will swirl.
The same goes for taking it off, go real lightly with a quality micro or 100%
cotton towel...These cars have soft paint which mean they will scratch or
swirl easy! The Z-5 does pretty good at filling in, so it will hide most of the
swirls.
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:25 PM   #14
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Contrary to what others have said, Zaino is the easiest product to use IMO. I've been detailing cars for over 10 years, using Meguires, Mothers, and any number of waxes/polishes, and nothing is easier to use, nor has longer durability, thank Zaino. And it does not matter what color the car is - Zaino works the same on each and every one.

Reading your post, it appears you either;

1. Used too much in the application
2. Did not allow enough time for drying

You can easily rectify this situation. Shoot me a PM, and we'll work it out.

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Old 09-27-2009, 10:20 PM   #15
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Contrary to what others have said, Zaino is the easiest product to use IMO. I've been detailing cars for over 10 years, using Meguires, Mothers, and any number of waxes/polishes, and nothing is easier to use, nor has longer durability, thank Zaino. And it does not matter what color the car is - Zaino works the same on each and every one.

Reading your post, it appears you either;

1. Used too much in the application
2. Did not allow enough time for drying


You can easily rectify this situation. Shoot me a PM, and we'll work it out.

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+10000. I use Zaino on my Black SS with no problems. My first guess was that you put it on WAY too heavy. I can do my entire Camaro with 1/3 of one of those ZFX mixing bottles. If you used more than that, then you used too much. If you used about that much, then it wasn't cured.


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Old 09-27-2009, 10:30 PM   #16
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Brand New Car and a wax I have never used before????? I think I will stick to Mequires!!
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Brand New Car and a wax I have never used before????? I think I will stick to Mequires!!
SIM + Zaino = a shine that Mequires can't touch! 3 coats of Z2 and multiple Z6/Z8 treatments... trust me, toss the mequires!

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+10000. I use Zaino on my Black SS with no problems. My first guess was that you put it on WAY too heavy. I can do my entire Camaro with 1/3 of one of those ZFX mixing bottles. If you used more than that, then you used too much. If you used about that much, then it wasn't cured.


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too much was always my problem. Now I have it under control. I can do my car with 3 coats of Z2 with about 2/3 of a bottle. By the time you get to coat 3, you are using basically no product. It becomes very easy.
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:00 PM   #19
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SIM + Zaino = a shine that Mequires can't touch! 3 coats of Z2 and multiple Z6/Z8 treatments... trust me, toss the mequires!

How many times did you have to wax that thing z4 z5 z6 z7 .......To get it to shine? Just kidding Mine shines too but I keep hearing people haveing troulbe useing this Zaino.I guess I will have to see it to belive it.
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Old 09-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #20
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This is how I shine on a cloudy day 1 coat of Mequires....
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This is how I shine on a cloudy day 1 coat of Mequires....
Ah, but the question is...how often do you need to re-apply Mequires to keep the shine there?

I used to use Mequires on my cars and trucks. Looked awesome for a couple of weeks and then started to lose it's shine and water beading ability. I have yet to see that happening with my Zaino after 2 1/2 months.
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Meguire's, as well as Mothers, are both good products.

That being said, IMO, Zaino offers the best durability. Zaino is a little more "involved", ie; it takes a little "practice" to get used to how to use it, but once you've got the process down, its a very easy product to use.

But, use what you prefer. If you're happy with whatever polish it is you've chosen, theres no problem with that.

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Ah, but the question is...how often do you need to re-apply Mequires to keep the shine there?

I used to use Mequires on my cars and trucks. Looked awesome for a couple of weeks and then started to lose it's shine and water beading ability. I have yet to see that happening with my Zaino after 2 1/2 months.
Ok I like it.

1 - Zaino
1- Mequires Check out my truck 10 years old liveing outside!! And I goes to the sand storms...Still looks good in the clouds.I wax it maybe 3 times a year.
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This is how I shine on a cloudy day 1 coat of Mequires....
Looks good! My process to get the shine was:

Wash, clay, wash, dry, Z2, Z6 spray, Z2, Z6 spray, Z2, Z6 spray, Z8 spray.

Took 2 days but it was worth it. The up keep is a snap and you can not get the car wet. Water just beads and comes right off. Plus, unlike typical waxes, with Zaino being a polish, youcan build up multiple coars. I used the mequires 3 step before but you can not build it up. once its time for a wax, you have to start over. Like Moose said, use what you are happy with. Zaino is by no means the only good product out there but it is one of the best going... once you learn how to use it properly.
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I think the problem some have with the Zaino is they can't wrap their heads around the different process and think they can apply it like any Wal-Mart branded wax...then run into problems.

Have not yet used the Zaino on my Camaro since I don't have it yet, but have on my wife's Caddy and boy does it make a HUGE improvement.
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