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Old 09-28-2009, 03:48 PM   #26
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No ..yall are seriously going to kill me... oh well at least I have popcorn
You guys enjoy torturing us dont ya?





No it won't kill you. We have done very thorough studies on the matter.......................it may SEEEEEM like it's killing you but it won't.

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I think my passion for the 5th Gen and its upcoming models and packages has turned into a very unhealthy obsession.......
Please to define this "unhealthy"

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Trim the fat and bring down the price so the people who don't want all the expensive features can get a no-nonsense car.
Fat, who are you calling fat????

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Im glad the beginning of my demise makes you Lol.....
killing, death, demise.....................come on Shnomac aren't you over exagerating just a teeeeny bit?

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I wold take a new Z/28 over her any day.......
Ha so would your WIFE

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Im thinking there are two different Beasts coming our way......
If two, then why not three?
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:50 PM   #27
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:50 PM   #28
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From Super Chevy magazine October '09.
I cant find the article on their website so I dont have a link.

Now I really have no Idea what to expect......


SC:Now that the Camaro is in the showrooms and on the street, whatabout extending the model lieup with a cobertible, and possibly a Z/28 version? What would a Z/28 be like?

AO: The convertible has been announced, but it has been delayed until 2011. As far as a Z/28, or a performance version, we've had this debate internally many, many times. What would you call the performance version? A Z/28? A COPO? A Yenko? Would you bring back a nostalgic name, or not? Create a new one? The SS was always the big dog Camaro, not the Z/28. The first Z/28 was built just to get us into the racing circuit against the Mustang and all the other cars that were in that class. If you were going to take a Z/28 approach, you'd try to stay true to the RPO, build a car that you could drive daily on the street, take to the drag strip and do well, or take to the track and do well, which the original Z/28 did. Take some things out of it, get the mass down, use and existing small-block, maybe an ls7, an ls9. Make it a great performing car for the purist.
Shnomac............once again you read what you want to read.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:51 PM   #29
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If two, then why not three?


LMAO..... you are the evil genius.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:52 PM   #30
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Shnomac............once again you read what you want to read.
Okay I will shut up now........
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:04 PM   #31
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Okay I will shut up now........
And whyyyyy would you do that?

And why did you edit your post?
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:45 PM   #32
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Fat, who are you calling fat????
Not who good sir, but what.
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ZL-1 would be perfect. Save the Z/28 as the answer to the Mustang's Track Pack.

I know I've said it 1000 times, I just hope someone at GM hears this. Al Op is right, it's hard to decide on a suiting name. I think they could do a ZL-1 as a stripped down 1/4-mile burner, and then make it available with the 2SS package, which would add leather, C&C package, etc for the people who want a little more luxury. This would keep the SS nameplate as the "top dog" options wise, and keep the legendary ZL-1 nameplate as the low production, stealthy "top dog" 1/4 mile wise. Who knows, maybe if they did a Z/28 suspension package, you could have a ZL-1, Z/28, SS/RS. Of course, they shouldn't badge the ZL-1 (just like they didn't in '69) so when you pull up next to a GT500, they think you are in a standard SS with some suspension upgrades... and then you hit blow their freakin doors off.
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Ill take an all aluminum 427 with a supercharger............... O and call it a ZL-1 but make more than 69 of them................ Or maybe a copo? Or a Z/28 and a copo or Zl-1!

Btw I hate you now number 3...................... LOL
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:27 PM   #35
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Ill take an all aluminum 427 with a supercharger............... O and call it a ZL-1 but make more than 69 of them................ Or maybe a copo? Or a Z/28 and a copo or Zl-1!

Btw I hate you now number 3...................... LOL
Awwwww, come on now. Don't be a hater.
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Awwwww, come on now. Don't be a hater.
You know to much................
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And whyyyyy would you do that?

And why did you edit your post?

Will It get me somewhere if I dont?


Because I didnt want to ask a question and say I would shut up in the same post....
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i like the whole 'stripped, no-nonsense' approach. if you want all that power and frills, get a CTS-V
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i like the whole 'stripped, no-nonsense' approach. if you want all that power and frills, get a CTS-V
Unfortunately if GM did that the magazines would completely rip the Camaro a new one. While smart, educated people like Camaro5 members don't pay any attention to what the magazines say, the majority of the general public does and that would seriously hurt sales. Not to mention all those people who wanted thrills AND frills would end up buying a GT500 if GM did that.
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Remember the Mustang Cobra R? It didn't even have a back seat.
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Remember the Mustang Cobra R? It didn't even have a back seat.
Yeah and how long did that stay in production....
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7 minutes? But the flip side to that is, think of the few that got one! They were really happy.
But, honestly, I want the options. I have a 4 door hot rod right now but there is something about a Camaro that is different. As a kid I dreamed of having the top dog Camaro like a Yenko or a COPO and now as an adult I'm able to do it and when it becomes available, I'll have one. Corvettes are cool cars but Camaros are muscle cars! I want a part of that history!
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I still say there is more than one beast on the way.....

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EXACTLY! This is how I feel!
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Yeah and how long did that stay in production....
Wasn't meant to stay in production. I think some things are just lost on people sadly.
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I still say there is more than one beast on the way.....
wasn't it stated in a mag or online there may be more than just one new Camaro?

Look at the Mustang; Bullit, Boss, etc.
I think Camaro may see; Z/28 (tracker), ZL1 or COPO (monster), and the executive model due out.
My reasoning is this car is HOT and GM will feed the fire if they are smart!
And I believe they are!
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Unfortunately if GM did that the magazines would completely rip the Camaro a new one. While smart, educated people like Camaro5 members don't pay any attention to what the magazines say, the majority of the general public does and that would seriously hurt sales. Not to mention all those people who wanted thrills AND frills would end up buying a GT500 if GM did that.
Hmmmm, I would say that past history does not agree with your statement. The 28,103 Z/28s sold in '67-'69 were sold in spite of not being available with air conditioning, automatic transmisson or in a convertible. A new Z/28 does not necessarily have to appeal to the entire mass market, it only needs to appeal to those likely to buy a high performance focused automobile (which is NOT the majority of the general public). The "missing" options certainly didn't stop me from buying a new Z/28 in '69, though at my present age I'd probably like to be able to get AC, but manual transmission is the way I'd go and I really don't care for a vert.
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wasn't it stated in a mag or online there may be more than just one new Camaro?

Look at the Mustang; Bullit, Boss, etc.
I think Camaro may see; Z/28 (tracker), ZL1 or COPO (monster), and the executive model due out.
My reasoning is this car is HOT and GM will feed the fire if they are smart!
And I believe they are!
Now that would be awesome
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A Z/28 with an auto or convertible is not a Z/28.
A Z/28 is a streetable track car!

As a side note, I have not fantasized about a car like this since the 70's. I actually feel a little tingly.
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Maybe Al Op was really looking for an answer to his question "what should we call it?"
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