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View Poll Results: What engine would you like to see in Z28?
LS9 113 36.69%
LSA 89 28.90%
Hybrid LS9/LSA (maybe to keep costs down) 25 8.12%
Generation 5 34 11.04%
SC/TC'd V6 13 4.22%
LS7 72 23.38%
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:19 PM   #51
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It would not be 80k, more like 56-59k
I'm not sure. We're looking at paying a premium just for the badge, but let's not forget the cost of that engine and how rare that car is going to be. Price gouging will lead the already high price to become ridiculous, especially with the LS9 in there. Add to that even more advanced suspension components and a unique interior. It will probably cost $80,000 after price gouging if the LS9 is in it. I would guess $60,000 when fully loaded.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:33 PM   #52
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GM isn't going to sell a car with an LS9 engine in it for $60k when the ZR1 is $110k. Does this make sense to anyone else? Why would people buy the ZR1 if you can get basically the same performance, slightly less, out of a Z28 with an LS9 and it costs $50k less. If GM did this they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

And no, a Z28 with an LS9 would not be $56-$59k lol, that's just too funny. It would at least be $75k. Doesn't the LS9 have forged titanium components? or something sweet like that? Yeah, lets put that in a Z28 and sell it for less than $60k! Please, I guess it's fun to dream though.
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Id most preffer to see the LS7, my reasoning being that while im interested in the Gen 5 motors there's just not enough info out there for me to put my faith in it yet so time will tell there, as far as the LSA and LS9 they're both great choices but as stated in the last update we got regaurding the Z/28 we are definatly looking at a weight reduction package being added, that being said both the LSA and LS9 weigh around 200lbs more than the LS7 (after fluids and all) and not to mention the LS7 Camaro was already released at SEMA so its obviously still a viable option (for all who say the LS7 is dead)...as far as the SC V6 well wasnt that already announced as a performance option between base Camaro and SS?? So i'd leave that in that catagory and out of the Z/28 discussion...a hybrid LSA/LS9 motor would be really nice but again, it would weight lots more and the SEMA LS7 Camaro made 586hp(?) with just a hotcam swap on N/A tuning, id be okay with an LS9 in it but i think it would bring the price up way too high and we cant have that, id rather not see the LSA (for previously stated reasons) also with the reasoning that if it WAS the LSA this would pretty much be a re-badged CTS-V and my other oppinion that, if you're gonna supercharge an LS3 why *****-foot around with the smaller of the two superchargers? lol

So my vote goes to the LS7, i preffer N/A engines, the 427 will always hold a tender spot by me, it'll help weight savings, and is an easily modded engine, also "more horsepower, less weight" was the idea behind the original Z/28s...LS7 all the way
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I voted for the:........... LS9/LSA Hybrid - An LSA with LS9 pistons; maybe LS9 cam; LS9 supercharger; etc.....As long as it has a Supercharger that is my main concern!..............

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:31 PM   #55
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How many of he 45 who chose the LS9 can really afford/want a probable $80,000. Camaro.
I've actually called on this. its runs about 65-70K to have one installed including the price of a base 2ss...

So the Camaro from the factory with a LS9 should be about... 60ish as you save the price of an LS3...
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I've actually called on this. its runs about 65-70K to have one installed including the price of a base 2ss...


ORLY?

Hmmmm what are you up to.......
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ORLY?
yessir. plus or minus a few G's but pretty much.
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I added are part you are to quick....lol
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I added are part you are to quick....lol
I'm not up to anything.....

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anymore... I was seriously considering doing an engine swap....


But now that the Z28 in on the table.... my plan is what we discussed earlier... get one now, pay it off early and trade up for the Z...
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I'm not up to anything.....

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anymore... I was seriously considering doing an engine swap....


But now that the Z28 in on the table.... my plan is what we discussed earlier... get one now, pay it off early and trade up for the Z...
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The LS9 would be amazing, its the top-dog of all small blocks in the world right now so id love it...but if it saves me damn near $20k for an engine that gets 50 or so less hp then im up for that, lol, i can make up that difference with the lesser engine in under $2000 so why bother, lol

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Old 10-04-2009, 09:33 PM   #63
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LSA... small displacement, large horsepower... keeping in sync with the original Z28 philosophy. If it came with the LS7 then to me it would sound more "SS" than "Z28"... but that is just me and my old school thinking.
Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Big blocks were already in SS cars when the original Z28 came out. That 302, Muncie 4 speed stone crusher and 4.10 gears were a great combination. Who needed power steering?
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GM isn't going to sell a car with an LS9 engine in it for $60k when the ZR1 is $110k. Does this make sense to anyone else? Why would people buy the ZR1 if you can get basically the same performance, slightly less, out of a Z28 with an LS9 and it costs $50k less. If GM did this they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

And no, a Z28 with an LS9 would not be $56-$59k lol, that's just too funny. It would at least be $75k. Doesn't the LS9 have forged titanium components? or something sweet like that? Yeah, lets put that in a Z28 and sell it for less than $60k! Please, I guess it's fun to dream though.
LOL there is more to the ZR1 than just the LS9. The ZR1 carbon ceramic disc brakes are not cheap, niether are the forged alluminum wheels, Niether are the Carbon fiber roof and fenders, Niether is the alluminum Chasis (That alone is $20k over the regular vette chasis), Neither is the $60,000 a gallon special coating on those carbon fiber bits etc...

edit: The LS9 is not a $40k engine, I think it cost about $6-7k more than the LSA. It is very possible for chevy to sell a Camaro with the LS9 motor for about $60k.
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edit: The LS9 is not a $40k engine, I think it cost about $6-7k more than the LSA. It is very possible for chevy to sell a Camaro with the LS9 motor for about $60k.
And still do anything else to it? That would be difficult.


Do you have anything to quantify that price on the Corvette's aluminum chassis? Being that the Z06 is only ~$23,000 more than the base Vette...that doesn't leave much room for brakes, the LS7, or profit...so I can't help but question that...
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And still do anything else to it? That would be difficult.


Do you have anything to quantify that price on the Corvette's aluminum chassis? Being that the Z06 is only ~$23,000 more than the base Vette...that doesn't leave much room for brakes, the LS7, or profit...so I can't help but question that...
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wow, $60k for a Z28. What would it's competitors be then?? Might as well just buy a GT-R. I'm assuming that the Z28 will compete with the GT500, everything being comparable, including price. Most likely means no LS9.

No crap the ZR1 is more than just an engine, thanks captain obvious...nice try though with the whole price comparison thing, you really made alot of sense. The Z28 will be more than just an engine u/g over the SS. Brakes, suspension, drive-train components and whatever else...hence why GM couldn't slap an LS9 with all the other goodies in it and sell it for $60k.

Probably not many people that would want to spend $60k for a Z28 anyway. Not saying there wouldn't be anyone just not many.
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wow, $60k for a Z28. What would it's competitors be then?? Might as well just buy a GT-R. I'm assuming that the Z28 will compete with the GT500, everything being comparable, including price. Most likely means no LS9.

No crap the ZR1 is more than just an engine, thanks captain obvious...nice try though with the whole price comparison thing, you really made alot of sense. The Z28 will be more than just an engine u/g over the SS. Brakes, suspension, drive-train components and whatever else...hence why GM couldn't slap an LS9 with all the other goodies in it and sell it for $60k.

Probably not many people that would want to spend $60k for a Z28 anyway. Not saying there wouldn't be anyone just not many.
yeah I'm not saying it is "best" for an LS9 to be the Z28's motor.... It's just the one I want....

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IMO I would love to be able to put a supercharged gt500 to shame with a stock N/A motor like the LS7 in a lighter car, then throw on some LT headers, free-flowing exhaust and CAI (just to start of course) and when I mean lighter I mean at least 3300 to 3400 lbs...not 3800...preferably 3100 lbs but thats probably wishful thinking
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There's probably no way to make the Z/28 weigh 3100 or even 3300 lbs. Not and keep it comfortable at all. If it was totally stripped no frills then you'd probably still be looking at 3500 lbs. It's all the safety features that add the weight.
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I seriously doubt many, if any, people here really think we can get an LS9 in Z28 for less than a Z06, or so. I think many of those people would really like to see it (me too ) but I don't really think they think it's reasonable. Hey, we can ask, can't we?
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yeah I'm not saying it is "best" for an LS9 to be the Z28's motor.... It's just the one I want....

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I seriously doubt many, if any, people here really think we can get an LS9 in Z28 for less than a Z06, or so. I think many of those people would really like to see it (me too ) but I don't really think they think it's reasonable. Hey, we can ask, can't we?
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IMO I would love to be able to put a supercharged gt500 to shame with a stock N/A motor like the LS7 in a lighter car, then throw on some LT headers, free-flowing exhaust and CAI (just to start of course) and when I mean lighter I mean at least 3300 to 3400 lbs...not 3800...preferably 3100 lbs but thats probably wishful thinking
Exactly, thats my view as well, who wouldnt want to say "yeah, my Camaro's got the stock 427" haha right? And beating the supercharged Shelby with an N/A engine would be perfect. There have already been people saying the Z/28 will have significant weight cuts which may get it down around 3500lbs, but dont forget, the GT is 3500lbs BUT the Shelby is actually around 3800lbs, so if we had an N/A engine with a lighter car its a recipe for destruction >=} Not to mention the LS7 is lighter than either the LSA or LS9 and wayyy cheaper than the LS9

Im a full supporter of the LS7 in the Z/28, and one cool thing between us supporting our oppinion over other speculation is that GM already released the LS7 Concept Camaro at SEMA rated around 586hp (36 more than the LSA), so we know GM has considered the LS7 before either of the supercharged engines, it sounds amazing, feels amazing, performs amazingly, in comparison is affordable and way lighter, and is still highly modifiable (think throwing a supercharger on that as an after-thought )
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Exactly, thats my view as well, who wouldnt want to say "yeah, my Camaro's got the stock 427" haha right? And beating the supercharged Shelby with an N/A engine would be perfect. There have already been people saying the Z/28 will have significant weight cuts which may get it down around 3500lbs, but dont forget, the GT is 3500lbs BUT the Shelby is actually around 3800lbs, so if we had an N/A engine with a lighter car its a recipe for destruction >=} Not to mention the LS7 is lighter than either the LSA or LS9 and wayyy cheaper than the LS9

Im a full supporter of the LS7 in the Z/28, and one cool thing between us supporting our oppinion over other speculation is that GM already released the LS7 Concept Camaro at SEMA rated around 586hp (36 more than the LSA), so we know GM has considered the LS7 before either of the supercharged engines, it sounds amazing, feels amazing, performs amazingly, in comparison is affordable and way lighter, and is still highly modifiable (think throwing a supercharger on that as an after-thought )
LS7 all the way man
This guy knows what's up. I'd love to smoke a GT500 with a N/A LS7.
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Exactly, thats my view as well, who wouldnt want to say "yeah, my Camaro's got the stock 427" haha right? And beating the supercharged Shelby with an N/A engine would be perfect. There have already been people saying the Z/28 will have significant weight cuts which may get it down around 3500lbs, but dont forget, the GT is 3500lbs BUT the Shelby is actually around 3800lbs, so if we had an N/A engine with a lighter car its a recipe for destruction >=} Not to mention the LS7 is lighter than either the LSA or LS9 and wayyy cheaper than the LS9

Im a full supporter of the LS7 in the Z/28, and one cool thing between us supporting our oppinion over other speculation is that GM already released the LS7 Concept Camaro at SEMA rated around 586hp (36 more than the LSA), so we know GM has considered the LS7 before either of the supercharged engines, it sounds amazing, feels amazing, performs amazingly, in comparison is affordable and way lighter, and is still highly modifiable (think throwing a supercharger on that as an after-thought )
LS7 all the way man
The LS7 in that camaro concept Had GM's hotcam which means it would not be emissions leagle. Also If the Z/28 used the ls7, it would need a sinificant HP increase to about 550hp and atleast cut 300lbs of wieght. It might be easier for GM to Just increase the Boost from the LSA supercharger and add Forged Pistons and Cut some wieght. Though a Light wieght N.A. Z28 is the most apealing.
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