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View Poll Results: What engine would you like to see in Z28?
LS9 113 36.69%
LSA 89 28.90%
Hybrid LS9/LSA (maybe to keep costs down) 25 8.12%
Generation 5 34 11.04%
SC/TC'd V6 13 4.22%
LS7 72 23.38%
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:25 PM   #101
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i'd say let the z28 get the ls7, while allowing the SS to get the LSA
LS7 is on it's way out. unless something drasticly changes (which I highly highly doubt). The SS is a current model. why would it get bumped up to the power of an LSA? and does it really deserve it? seeing how the SS name plate is watered down pretty badly. why are people so stuck on the SS being the end all be all? ZL1 would be better for an LSA/LS9 and the Z28 would be great for a Gen V motor. hopefully pushing over 500 hp with smaller displacement then current LS3's. that's IMHO.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:33 AM   #102
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LS7 is on it's way out. unless something drasticly changes (which I highly highly doubt). The SS is a current model. why would it get bumped up to the power of an LSA? and does it really deserve it? seeing how the SS name plate is watered down pretty badly. why are people so stuck on the SS being the end all be all? ZL1 would be better for an LSA/LS9 and the Z28 would be great for a Gen V motor. hopefully pushing over 500 hp with smaller displacement then current LS3's. that's IMHO.
I agree the Super Sport version should (IMHO) be the king of all with something like the ZL1 or something simular. ANd the Z28 with a better handling package with a Gen V motor.
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Old 12-10-2009, 05:18 PM   #103
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The LS9 in a Camaro from GM is a pipe dream, GM has never put the top of the line Corvette engine in any other model and the LS9 isn't going be any different, the only way is after the ZR1 has ended production. LSA at least has a chance to get into the Camaro. LS7 isn't long for this world (at least that is what I keep hearing). TT V6 has potentual but would turn off too many traditionalist, this an area where a Pontiac Firebird would have needed to go...RIP Pontiac. Gen 5 is a pig in a poke until there are details.

There needs to be another choice on this poll. How about a retuned LS3 with a 3.73 or 3.90 gears, weight reduction, carbon brakes, tuned up suspension, and simple styling (hood scoop, duck tail spoiler). That is what the Z28 was and should stay not a overpowered sledgehammer, think more like Corvette GS that GM just released. Z/28 is supposed to be a velvet glove that cuts corners not hammers the tires to acceleration smoke. Look at the GT500 and you see a car that has more power than it can put down so the Mustang GT and the Camaro SS are not that far off on a road course.
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I think the CTS-V set up makes the most sense for several reasons.

First, the Camaro is in essence a CTS. Same frame and assembly line. The engines are already being delivered to the plant.

Second, it is a proven engine that works. I doubt any mods to the vehicle are necessary at all to get it going.

Lastly, the engine is putting out over 550 HP right off the showroom floor. An air intake, exhaust tune and quick pully change and that sucker is well over 600HP.

So, I'd use the LSA platform in this situation.

As far as the rest of the car I would beef up the suspension and brakes a little. Car should be a lot stiffer than the current SS. I would put the nose without the fake intake slot on from the V6 and put a cool hood with a real monster looking intake to make the car look like a 600HP car.

I'd say this car would come in well under $60K.

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The LS9 in a Camaro from GM is a pipe dream, GM has never put the top of the line Corvette engine in any other model and the LS9 isn't going be any different, the only way is after the ZR1 has ended production. LSA at least has a chance to get into the Camaro. LS7 isn't long for this world (at least that is what I keep hearing). TT V6 has potentual but would turn off too many traditionalist, this an area where a Pontiac Firebird would have needed to go...RIP Pontiac. Gen 5 is a pig in a poke until there are details.

There needs to be another choice on this poll. How about a retuned LS3 with a 3.73 or 3.90 gears, weight reduction, carbon brakes, tuned up suspension, and simple styling (hood scoop, duck tail spoiler). That is what the Z28 was and should stay not a overpowered sledgehammer, think more like Corvette GS that GM just released. Z/28 is supposed to be a velvet glove that cuts corners not hammers the tires to acceleration smoke. Look at the GT500 and you see a car that has more power than it can put down so the Mustang GT and the Camaro SS are not that far off on a road course.

Honestly (and i dont mean this offensivly) there's a lot in here i disagree with, i'll tackle them in order...first there actually have been Camaros with the top of the line Corvette engines, they were the COPOS, also im not exactly sure but i think the 3rd gen 1LE Camaros had the top Vette engine for their day too...next, the Pontiac comment seemed off-base to me, Pontiac was the last company to keep the monster engines in their arsenal (455, 400, 403) for use in their sports/muscle cars, especially true in the Firebird which has often been known as more of a heavy-hitter than even the Camaro in terms of engines, i could never see the Firebird turning to turbos...quickly hitting the next topic im sure the Z/28 will come standard with more aggressive gearing no matter what engine it gets, and im sure it will get all the other goodies you mentioned as well...then lastly the original Z/28 was quite the heavy-hitter as well as an amazing handling car (just as this one is proposed to be), it had the small-block 302 which was quite a bit lighter than the big blocks, and it put out around 425 horsepower which bested all the big blocks of its day (GM wrote the numbers off as 290 to keep the Trans Am circuit off their back) and with that 425hp at least matches the top Corvette 427 of the day in a lighter small block no less
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I think the CTS-V set up makes the most sense for several reasons.

First, the Camaro is in essence a CTS. Same frame and assembly line. The engines are already being delivered to the plant.

Second, it is a proven engine that works. I doubt any mods to the vehicle are necessary at all to get it going.

Lastly, the engine is putting out over 550 HP right off the showroom floor. An air intake, exhaust tune and quick pully change and that sucker is well over 600HP.

So, I'd use the LSA platform in this situation.

As far as the rest of the car I would beef up the suspension and brakes a little. Car should be a lot stiffer than the current SS. I would put the nose without the fake intake slot on from the V6 and put a cool hood with a real monster looking intake to make the car look like a 600HP car.

I'd say this car would come in well under $60K.

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the car shouldn't be over 50k unless optioned out. no matter how you toss the dice the next high out put camaro will be aimed at the GT500. and the GT500's price starts out at 48k. as for the rest of your post the hp would change due to exhaust and intake changes. not every car you through that engine in will put down the same hp. and that's mainly do to the fact of exhaust and intake restrictions (sizing of the tubes and bends etc) different.
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Honestly (and i dont mean this offensivly) there's a lot in here i disagree with, i'll tackle them in order...first there actually have been Camaros with the top of the line Corvette engines, they were the COPOS, also im not exactly sure but i think the 3rd gen 1LE Camaros had the top Vette engine for their day too...next, the Pontiac comment seemed off-base to me, Pontiac was the last company to keep the monster engines in their arsenal (455, 400, 403) for use in their sports/muscle cars, especially true in the Firebird which has often been known as more of a heavy-hitter than even the Camaro in terms of engines, i could never see the Firebird turning to turbos...quickly hitting the next topic im sure the Z/28 will come standard with more aggressive gearing no matter what engine it gets, and im sure it will get all the other goodies you mentioned as well...then lastly the original Z/28 was quite the heavy-hitter as well as an amazing handling car (just as this one is proposed to be), it had the small-block 302 which was quite a bit lighter than the big blocks, and it put out around 425 horsepower which bested all the big blocks of its day (GM wrote the numbers off as 290 to keep the Trans Am circuit off their back) and with that 425hp at least matches the top Corvette 427 of the day in a lighter small block no less
Ok you say the COPO Camaros....well sorry that is a fail, the Corvette had the L88 as the top dog and where is the COPO L88 Camaro? No such animal exists. Where are the LT5 Camaros like the ZR-1 Corvette? Yes there have been high powered engines shared by both a limited number of Camaros, Chevelles, and Corvette but the were not the top option Corvette engine. So the LS9 will not find a home in the Camaro while it is in a production Corvette. The LE1 Camaro is not a package that contained an engine as part of it, a TPI 305 Z28 could be an LE1. Then you say the L98 engine in the 350 Iroc Camaro was in the Corvette well it was not the top option for the C4 Corvette that tittle goes to the LT5 and later the LT4, nope never made the Camaro. The standard engine in the Corvette did find homes in other chassis, like the L65 327, LT-1 350, and the L98 TPI 350.

So Pontiac never used a turbo in its later years, like the 89 Turbo TA's (out of the GN) or even the 4.9 turbo TAs in 80 and 81 (yes a turd of a TA but a turbo none the less) The big Pontiacs were done in the 1970's and Pontiac had gone down a road of more high tech in the later years of its existance. So nope I stand by my accessment on that one, besides tell me a high tech performance car isn't just cool right along with a high torque muscle car.

Z28 did not necessarly get better gears so that is not a given either because the 1st gen Z28 standard gear was 3.31 which is the same gear as...... hold on to it......... a 1st gen SS350/396 with a 4 speed trans. In the mid 1970's the Z28 Camaro was not much different than the any Camaro that could be ordered including the gears.

The 302 did not put out 425HP as delivered from the showroom, NHRA rerated the 302 to 320 HP after they had been blueprinted and headers installed (yes still underrated 380 - 400 IMO). Traco who preped the Pensky Camaros engines during the 1967 - 69 years got approximatly 460 hp ( this is highly preped 302 not just headers and a tune up). If the same mods were done to a 396/375 or a 427/425 do you think the 302 with its lack of torque stood a snowballs chance, and of course only the 302 was unrated....right? Traco's L88's in the LeMans Corvette for 1967 was 590 HP. Life is more than a drag race anyway and the Z28 was not a drag racer it was (should stay) a great road course car. Big Blocks were not even tried to run in the SCCA in a Camaro body because the crappy weight balance, the big block only went on the road course in a Corvette (still not the best balance but better than the Camaro) The 302 Z/28 was not the fire breathing monster that people remember (unless it had at least 4.11, 4.33 were better), I have driven a few and the later LT-1 Z/28 were much better drivers.

I stand by my acessment of how the next Z/28 (noticed I corrected its name here) should be. If there needs to be a more Firebreathing Camaro SS then a ZL1 option that would included the Z/28 weight reduction, suspension, brakes, and the LSA.
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I doubt the LS9 Engine will go in the Z28. It would be way to expensive and not compare to the GT500's power or price. They should do the LSA engine, its more practical. If they do the LSA, they can probably keep the price down to under 50k for the Z28
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I love it when people say it will be too expensive if X engine goes in it. makes me laugh so much. they said the same thing before the LS3 came out as the SS engine.
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I love it when people say it will be too expensive if X engine goes in it. makes me laugh so much. they said the same thing before the LS3 came out as the SS engine.
I remember I had said early on that if they want to keep the price below 30k (like, around 28-29), they couldn't use the LS3 -- they'd have to use the L76. I hoped they would use the LS3, but I didn't expect them to.

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i think GM should hav made a ZL1 for 2009 and made it a 40th for the 1969 ZL1 they should hav put a higher hp LS7 in just for the 427 effect
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Ok you say the COPO Camaros....well sorry that is a fail, the Corvette had the L88 as the top dog and where is the COPO L88 Camaro? No such animal exists. Where are the LT5 Camaros like the ZR-1 Corvette? Yes there have been high powered engines shared by both a limited number of Camaros, Chevelles, and Corvette but the were not the top option Corvette engine. So the LS9 will not find a home in the Camaro while it is in a production Corvette. The LE1 Camaro is not a package that contained an engine as part of it, a TPI 305 Z28 could be an LE1. Then you say the L98 engine in the 350 Iroc Camaro was in the Corvette well it was not the top option for the C4 Corvette that tittle goes to the LT5 and later the LT4, nope never made the Camaro. The standard engine in the Corvette did find homes in other chassis, like the L65 327, LT-1 350, and the L98 TPI 350.

So Pontiac never used a turbo in its later years, like the 89 Turbo TA's (out of the GN) or even the 4.9 turbo TAs in 80 and 81 (yes a turd of a TA but a turbo none the less) The big Pontiacs were done in the 1970's and Pontiac had gone down a road of more high tech in the later years of its existance. So nope I stand by my accessment on that one, besides tell me a high tech performance car isn't just cool right along with a high torque muscle car.

Z28 did not necessarly get better gears so that is not a given either because the 1st gen Z28 standard gear was 3.31 which is the same gear as...... hold on to it......... a 1st gen SS350/396 with a 4 speed trans. In the mid 1970's the Z28 Camaro was not much different than the any Camaro that could be ordered including the gears.

The 302 did not put out 425HP as delivered from the showroom, NHRA rerated the 302 to 320 HP after they had been blueprinted and headers installed (yes still underrated 380 - 400 IMO). Traco who preped the Pensky Camaros engines during the 1967 - 69 years got approximatly 460 hp ( this is highly preped 302 not just headers and a tune up). If the same mods were done to a 396/375 or a 427/425 do you think the 302 with its lack of torque stood a snowballs chance, and of course only the 302 was unrated....right? Traco's L88's in the LeMans Corvette for 1967 was 590 HP. Life is more than a drag race anyway and the Z28 was not a drag racer it was (should stay) a great road course car. Big Blocks were not even tried to run in the SCCA in a Camaro body because the crappy weight balance, the big block only went on the road course in a Corvette (still not the best balance but better than the Camaro) The 302 Z/28 was not the fire breathing monster that people remember (unless it had at least 4.11, 4.33 were better), I have driven a few and the later LT-1 Z/28 were much better drivers.

I stand by my acessment of how the next Z/28 (noticed I corrected its name here) should be. If there needs to be a more Firebreathing Camaro SS then a ZL1 option that would included the Z/28 weight reduction, suspension, brakes, and the LSA.
Sorry, your answer is an epic FAIL!! The top engine in '69 was the ZL1 engine which was an all aluminum version of the L88 (L88 had aluminum heads and iron block), the ZL1 engine was installed in 71 cars in '69, 2 Corvettes and 69 Camaros for a total of 71 engines. While the ZL1 engine shared the same factory rated HP as the L88 (430hp), it was closer to 500hp in ZL1 configuration.
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LS7 would be sweet. I don't think an LS9 would ever happen.
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I would vote for the LS7 engine based on weight and the believe a Z28 should be quick, race worthy, tight suspension, and a powerful engine to pull the vehicle along. Is it possble to eliminate several hundred pounds for the Z to keep it true to it's origin of the late 60's.
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I would vote for the LS7 engine based on weight and the believe a Z28 should be quick, race worthy, tight suspension, and a powerful engine to pull the vehicle along. Is it possble to eliminate several hundred pounds for the Z to keep it true to it's origin of the late 60's.
Thank you, lol, ats' basically what ive been trying to say all along LOL, people just take the "no LSA" thing so personally, when those words come out they act like you just kicked their kid or somethin LOL
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Now see my whole idea behind it is, the LS7 is roughly the same horsepower as the LSA, the only difference is the LS7 is Naturally Aspirated, so my reasoning is if you're going to make so many weight cuts on the Z/28 why go back on that and add weight to the engine when its unecessary? I would just like to see as much weight reduction as possible and the best way to do that is with an N/A engine...aside from the fact that i just have a soft spot for N/A over forced induction anywas, and the fact that it would be totally kick ass to be able to say "yeah, my Camaro came from the factory with a 427" haha, OH and who wouldnt love to see the headlines saying "New N/A Z/28 smokes Supercharged Shelby" ?? =D hahaha

In the end, no matter how much arguing goes on over what engine would be best, we all just gotta remember, everyone wants the best for the car, whether you want one engine or another your reasoning behind it is all just because you want to have the best car possible on the market for you and even for the people you're arguing/discussing with or against...we're all Camaro enthusiests looking for our long awaited unicorn, and just hanging on to that dream is enough to get props from me

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Thank you, lol, ats' basically what ive been trying to say all along LOL, people just take the "no LSA" thing so personally, when those words come out they act like you just kicked their kid or somethin LOL
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Now see my whole idea behind it is, the LS7 is roughly the same horsepower as the LSA, the only difference is the LS7 is Naturally Aspirated, so my reasoning is if you're going to make so many weight cuts on the Z/28 why go back on that and add weight to the engine when its unecessary? I would just like to see as much weight reduction as possible and the best way to do that is with an N/A engine...aside from the fact that i just have a soft spot for N/A over forced induction anywas, and the fact that it would be totally kick ass to be able to say "yeah, my Camaro came from the factory with a 427" haha, OH and who wouldnt love to see the headlines saying "New N/A Z/28 smokes Supercharged Shelby" ?? =D hahaha

In the end, no matter how much arguing goes on over what engine would be best, we all just gotta remember, everyone wants the best for the car, whether you want one engine or another your reasoning behind it is all just because you want to have the best car possible on the market for you and even for the people you're arguing/discussing with or against...we're all Camaro enthusiests looking for our long awaited unicorn, and just hanging on to that dream is enough to get props from me
and why go with the LS7 where those people you are arguing with can't really supercharge it to absurd power? why not want a DI v-8 with thicker walls and possibly forged internals? lol. I'm sure the DI-v8 at about the same displacement would be putting down close to ls7 and lsa numbers. so yea. still the reason I push for that Gen V motor over both.
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Actually now im pushing for the LSX454 haha. I know the LSX454 is just a crate engine and probly wouldnt make it into a production car but honestly that thing is a BEAST. It puts down 620hp and 590tq, thats just about 18 horsepower off from the LS9 without using forced induction, which means not only is it almost the same horsepower but its at least 100 pounds lighter than the LS9, and on top of that a Trans Am equipped with the LSX454 was entered in the Hot Rod Power Tour and acheived 25mpg, its also half the price of the LS9 and $3k cheaper than either the LSA or LS7 so it would be the best of all three worlds haha, more power, less weight, less cost, sounds like a sure-fire winner to me

Id love to see it in the Z/28, unfortunatly though i dont see any LSX crate engines being considered for production car use any time soon, which is lame, but still at this point if i were placed with the option i think i might just buy an SS over a Z/28 and spend the extra money i saved swapping the LS3 to a LSX454

Has this engine already been discussed?

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I would like to see 2 more camaro's made. I would like to see a NA lighter weight Z28 that has more HP than the current SS while having more aggresive gearing and better handeling suspension. This motor could be the ls3 with better tuning, exhaust and induction or better yet a VVT ls3 with no AFM but a more aggressive cam than the l99. This car would be offered in manual only with 3.73 gearing. Springs and shocks would be better for road holding than ride and would also have stiffer LCA for no wheelhop. The wheels would be a lighter weight 20 or maybe even a 18 or 19. This option would cost no more than 10k to the base price of the SS. If its not a completly different motor than it should only add no more than 5k. This would be a SS with Z28 option just like you could do back in the 60's. You could even add RS to that and it would be a SS Z28 RS The 2nd Camaro would be the ZL1 and this would be the car to compete with the GT500. In a perfect world it would be a 427 supercharged motor, but thats not going to happen. Another option is a hopped up LS7 wich makes 550hp but with CAFE regulations emmisions and MPG thats not going to happen either(except from companies like BERGER)The most logical choice from GM's stand point is the LSA. It would really not take much to make this happen because as every one knows the CTS shares the same platform with us. This car CANNOT cost more than the GT500 to be successful. This car would have a manual or auto option just like the CTS-V. The stick version cannot weigh more than 3950lbs. The front facia would be different along with a different hood and spoiler along with unique wheels with a 315/35zr20 rear tire. Oh yeah that would be bada** and is totaly in reality of what GM could do.
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I dont think the Z/28 should be a package thing like RS is, i had enough of that with the 4th gen cars haha, the original Z/28s were their own trim level and i think it should stay that way.

Although i do agree that there should be a ZL1 option, it should have a lot to do with the dealer too, like ordering the ZL1 option gives you the Z/28 along with some assorted goodies from GMPP which are to be installed by the dealer, like brakes, upgraded suspension components, or even an aggressive cam.

Actually one idea i had that i think would be awsome is if the dealer would let you buy a Z/28 minus the engine and the cost of the engine, then you order an LSX454 crate engine from GMPP through the dealer and the dealer installs the new crate engine in the engine-less Camaro and basically what you have is the car you want with the engine you want and all you gotta do is pay the price difference from engine to engine...which that would be an awsome ZL1 package idea as well...like say the Z/28 came stock with an LS7, but when you enact the ZL1 package the LSX454 is ordered along with an engine-less car and the two are mated at the dealer and sold as a ZL1 Camaro...i think itd be a pretty awsome option, anyone else agree?
(if this were available on the SS model the difference between the two engines would be about $5k, so it would be a $5k or so option)

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I dont think the Z/28 should be a package thing like RS is, i had enough of that with the 4th gen cars haha, the original Z/28s were their own trim level and i think it should stay that way.

Although i do agree that there should be a ZL1 option, it should have a lot to do with the dealer too, like ordering the ZL1 option gives you the Z/28 along with some assorted goodies from GMPP which are to be installed by the dealer, like brakes, upgraded suspension components, or even an aggressive cam.

Actually one idea i had that i think would be awsome is if the dealer would let you buy a Z/28 minus the engine and the cost of the engine, then you order an LSX454 crate engine from GMPP through the dealer and the dealer installs the new crate engine in the engine-less Camaro and basically what you have is the car you want with the engine you want and all you gotta do is pay the price difference from engine to engine...which that would be an awsome ZL1 package idea as well...like say the Z/28 came stock with an LS7, but when you enact the ZL1 package the LSX454 is ordered along with an engine-less car and the two are mated at the dealer and sold as a ZL1 Camaro...i think itd be a pretty awsome option, anyone else agree?
(if this were available on the SS model the difference between the two engines would be about $5k, so it would be a $5k or so option)
This could happen but I would not want the dealer doing it. I would like it to come from LPE or Berger or a big name like that so you know it was done right. It would be along the same lines as the Shelby super snake. A LSX454 crate motor would not cut it though. It would have to be a LSX 427 crate motor with a TVS2300 or KB supercharger sitting on top just like what Ford and Shelby did with the Super Snake. These cars have no warranty though and are very pricey. It would cost between a Zo6 and ZR1. The car would be for GM bragging rights and collectibility only as you could do the same thing to a base SS for much less and lose the warranty anyway.
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This could happen but I would not want the dealer doing it. I would like it to come from LPE or Berger or a big name like that so you know it was done right. It would be along the same lines as the Shelby super snake. A LSX454 crate motor would not cut it though. It would have to be a LSX 427 crate motor with a TVS2300 or KB supercharger sitting on top just like what Ford and Shelby did with the Super Snake. These cars have no warranty though and are very pricey. It would cost between a Zo6 and ZR1. The car would be for GM bragging rights and collectibility only as you could do the same thing to a base SS for much less and lose the warranty anyway.
Id buy it if they threw the LSX454 crate in it (which is actually being sold as a crate engine now and not just an LSX block) but if it were an LS427 with a supercharger i wouldnt buy it, i mean the LSX454 is pushing 620hp on all motor, and the LS7 would pull those same numbers with a supercharger added, but the LS7 alone is like $6k more than the LSX454, then add a supercharger on top of that, plus the added weight of the supercharger...forget that, just put the LSX454 crate in it, more power, less weight, far less expensive
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i think whatever they put in it, it should be Naturally Aspirated
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i think whatever they put in it, it should be Naturally Aspirated
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I've not read all the posts so I may be echoing someone else.Before I start let me get my flame suit on.
In light of the fact that the original Z/28 had the smallest powerplant at 302 ci to satisfy Trans Am rules I would like to see a naturally aspirated
V-6 that will safely spin 7500 RPM mile after mile.I would also like to see it lose a few hundred pounds and I believe 350 HP is well within reach of the V-6.This would give us a light, nimble, high reving,road worthy car.
I've nothing against big motor horsepower and traditionally that's where
the SS shines as did the 396's and 427's of yesteryear.Just my two cents.
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HERE is my thoughts for engine choices on ALL the camaros...

SS-LS7 upgrade to 600 hp
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