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Old 05-11-2012, 05:59 PM   #326
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Can't wait to see a pic with the SLP splitter!
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:11 PM   #327
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Can't wait to see a pic with the SLP splitter!
Well that will be in a few hours. I have the splitter on; just have the front of the car off while I'm putting on a tow-hook. Stupid battery on my drill ran down while I was trying to drill the holes in the front bar. I've got the battery on the charger so maybe in about 3 hours I'll have a pic or two with the front of the car back on and the splitter.

Next week I'll take the ZL1 sideskirts someplace to get them painted and maybe by next Friday those will be on too with any luck.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:19 AM   #328
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Well it took longer than anticipated. Trying to get the tow-hook to line up so it stuck out the lower grill correctly was a time-consuming pain. For those who want to do this in the future, drill 13 and 5/8 inches from the right edge of the steel crash bumper and leave about 1/4" gap from the bottom of the crash bumper to the tow-hook. And I recommend removing the crash bumper to drill the holes so the front and back holes line up properly.

At any rate, here are a couple of quick pics I took this morning (ignore the dirt and bugs, the car needs washing) and you can see the red tow-hook sticking out from the lower grill. You can also see the SLP front splitter which was easy to install and fit exactly as advertised. It installs with 10 bolts (no double-stick tape here) so there's no chance it's going to come off at high speed if you run on the track. This should give me a little more downforce in the front when going around the high-speed bank at the speedway.

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Next is getting the ZL1 sideskirts out of the living room and to the paint shop.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:18 PM   #330
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Curious Doc,

Do you remove the passenger seat when running the track (2 bolts)? ... maybe even the rear seat too?
Still have the windshield washer bottle?
Carpet?
Console?
OnStar?
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There is so many places to lose weight...

And really, your build is so epic that I don't want it to stop ...... I bet 3600 lb is achievable.
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Old 05-14-2012, 01:24 PM   #331
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would not recommend removing the seat, that will set an airbag code that will need to be cleared by a dealer.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:20 PM   #332
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would not recommend removing the seat, that will set an airbag code that will need to be cleared by a dealer.
Does anyone make a seat wiring terminator with the correct resistors (dummy seat)? I am guessing you would need this with racing seats?

Even if not, 50lb is 50lb. You might be able to live with the airbag light for a track pass. ... does the driver bag work if the light is on? (probably not).
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would not recommend removing the seat, that will set an airbag code that will need to be cleared by a dealer.
That was true on the old GTO's, but not with the Camaro's. It sets a temporary fault that displays on the DIC that then disappears when the seat is reinstalled.

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Old 05-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #334
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That was true on the old GTO's, but not with the Camaro's. It sets a temporary fault that displays on the DIC that then disappears when the seat is reinstalled.

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thanks man, i'm still stuck in GTO mode,
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Curious Doc,

Do you remove the passenger seat when running the track (2 bolts)? ... maybe even the rear seat too?
Still have the windshield washer bottle?
Carpet?
Console?
OnStar?
XM?

There is so many places to lose weight...

And really, your build is so epic that I don't want it to stop ...... I bet 3600 lb is achievable.
LOL well thank you for the support. I don't remove the seats or any of that other stuff when on the track. I'm not trying to do a full-race build but I'll continue to study what I can do about getting some more weight out without gutting the car. It would be nice to get it down to 3,600 lbs with a full tank.

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would not recommend removing the seat, that will set an airbag code that will need to be cleared by a dealer.
This is something I was concerned about; I'll talk to Sparco and see if they have a solution for this. It seems to me they would since they've been selling racing seats for years.

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Does anyone make a seat wiring terminator with the correct resistors (dummy seat)? I am guessing you would need this with racing seats?

Even if not, 50lb is 50lb. You might be able to live with the airbag light for a track pass. ... does the driver bag work if the light is on? (probably not).
If I just replace the driver's seat it looks like I might be able to save about 30 lbs, even with adding a tank plate and 4-point harness. Something I'm researching.

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That was true on the old GTO's, but not with the Camaro's. It sets a temporary fault that displays on the DIC that then disappears when the seat is reinstalled.

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That's good to know Padre. There MUST be a bypass or work-around of some kind to allow a racing seat and still keep everything functioning.
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Old 05-15-2012, 07:30 AM   #336
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That's good to know Padre. There MUST be a bypass or work-around of some kind to allow a racing seat and still keep everything functioning.
I picked up the Helms Service Manual. Just got to dig through it to find which circuits to ground or resistor. Should be pretty simple - I'll get it done before my next race in June.
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thanks man, i'm still stuck in GTO mode,
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:16 PM   #337
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Finally got the ZL1 sideskirts painted and installed. The combo of the SLP front splitter and the ZL1 sideskirts looks really good.

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Forgot to mention the weights. The SLP front splitter weighs 4.4 lbs, the ZL1 sideskirts weigh 4.8 lbs each for a total of 9.6 lbs for the pair. That's a total weight of 14 lbs for all 3 pieces. The factory sideskirts (which were removed) weigh 3.9 lbs each for a total of 7.8 lbs for the pair. So subtracting the weight of the factory sideskirts that were removed, the difference is 9.6 lbs - 7.8 lbs = 1.8 lbs added. The total weight added of all 3 new pieces is 6.2 lbs.

The tow hook weighs 2.5 lbs so 2.5 lbs + 6.2 lbs = 8.7 lbs I've added. That puts my total vehicle weight (with a full tank) at roughly 3,689 lbs.
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Forgot to mention the weights. The SLP front splitter weighs 4.4 lbs, the ZL1 sideskirts weigh 4.8 lbs each for a total of 9.6 lbs for the pair. That's a total weight of 14 lbs for all 3 pieces. The factory sideskirts (which were removed) weigh 3.9 lbs each for a total of 7.8 lbs for the pair. So subtracting the weight of the factory sideskirts that were removed, the difference is 9.6 lbs - 7.8 lbs = 1.8 lbs added. The total weight added of all 3 new pieces is 6.2 lbs.

The tow hook weighs 2.5 lbs so 2.5 lbs + 6.2 lbs = 8.7 lbs I've added. That puts my total vehicle weight (with a full tank) at roughly 3,689 lbs.
I really like the look Doc!

By the way, what are you doing having all those emblems? Is you lose the Bo tie on the grill pluss the Ss emblem, the camaro, SS and GM emblem off the front fender, that should get rid of a few ounces, LOL.

I was looking at the front replacement sud which eliminates 30 lds.

Keep up the great work. I love your build
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:55 PM   #340
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Hey Doc! Just got done reading your build and I gotta say its better than the best book i've ever read! Your car looks amazing! And not overdone AT ALL. Totally Awesome! If you're looking for some nice visual upgrades, check out these side marker lights from Advanced Automotive concepts: http://www.automotivelightstore.com/Sidemarkers.aspx. I think these would be a great (and subtle) addition to your already beautiful lady. Other than that, man, I ca't think of anything else to suggest! Maybe a ZL1 front grille? But seriously, nothing else comes to mind. Its beautiful. Well done my friend, well done.

P.S.: Your car is now my wallpaper. It replaced the Hennessey HPE1000, which is in my avatar and sig, just so you know.

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Hey Doc! Just got done reading your build and I gotta say its better than the best book i've ever read! Your car looks amazing! And not overdone AT ALL. Totally Awesome! If you're looking for some nice visual upgrades, check out these side marker lights from Advanced Automotive concepts: http://www.automotivelightstore.com/Sidemarkers.aspx. I think these would be a great (and subtle) addition to your already beautiful lady. Other than that, man, I ca't think of anything else to suggest! Maybe a ZL1 front grille? But seriously, nothing else comes to mind. Its beautiful. Well done my friend, well done.

P.S.: Your car is now my wallpaper. It replaced the Hennessey HPE1000, which is in my avatar and sig, just so you know.

Well thank you and I am honored to have Blue Angel be your wallpaper.
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Hey DOC how are things? Quick question for you? How have the RB Brake rotors been holding up for you? How many times have you "tracked" them and how many miles have you put on them? Any warping that you can feel from your brake pedal? Thanks
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Hope you don't mind. But did a quick PS to get rid of the time/date stamp in the bottom right corner.

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The rotors have held up fine. After all day running hard at the track the brakes never over-heat nor do they fade. I can see a slight bit of wear which is understandable considering how hard I've used them at the track. The RB brake pads have worked really well. There is some dust at the end of a track session but that's to be expected. Braking is smooth, steady, predictable.

If you watched that last video I posted of AutoClub Speedway you can see the clear braking advantage I had which enabled me to catch that black mercedes in front of me. He had straight-line speed but had to brake way earlier than I did.

I couldn't be happier with the RB rotors.
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Wow your build is very amazing and very well organized. I like how you were able to set out your goal for your weight to power ratio and that you were able to achieve it. Good job! It makes me wonder what my current weight to power ratio is and I wonder how I can make it better. I really enjoyed reading this build thread and I can't wait to see what else you have in mind. Good luck.
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Wow your build is very amazing and very well organized. I like how you were able to set out your goal for your weight to power ratio and that you were able to achieve it. Good job! It makes me wonder what my current weight to power ratio is and I wonder how I can make it better. I really enjoyed reading this build thread and I can't wait to see what else you have in mind. Good luck.
Thank you! You can get a rough idea of your P/W ratio by filling the tank on you car then going to a truck scale and have them weigh it without you in it. Then divide that by the factory stated horsepower for your engine. If you haven't done any mods to the engine/intake/exhaust that will at least give you a rough idea of your starting point for P/W. If you have done mods then you'll need to get a dyno reading to get an accurate number for your hp.

I like the dyno method because I prefer to use the power to the rear wheels as my number for hp because I feel that's the amount of power that's actually pushing the car. I'm not trying to impress anyone with inflated numbers; I want to know what I actually have.

If you know how to use a spreadsheet you can easily set up a "what if" sheet with one cell for weight and another for hp to experiment with various combos to see what it would take to get down to a target P/W ratio.
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The rotors have held up fine. After all day running hard at the track the brakes never over-heat nor do they fade. I can see a slight bit of wear which is understandable considering how hard I've used them at the track. The RB brake pads have worked really well. There is some dust at the end of a track session but that's to be expected. Braking is smooth, steady, predictable.

If you watched that last video I posted of AutoClub Speedway you can see the clear braking advantage I had which enabled me to catch that black mercedes in front of me. He had straight-line speed but had to brake way earlier than I did.

I couldn't be happier with the RB rotors.
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