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Old 10-01-2009, 03:05 PM   #1
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Official PDIM accessory from GM

I just got the PDIM today (#92244580). As you can see it comes with the harness that is needed to connect the PDIM. There's no way I could I have made this harness to install the PDIM I bought off ebay (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43733). I also grabbed a picture of the PDIM accessory vs. a PDIM pulled from a 2SS. I plan to install it either tonight or tomorrow.
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:14 PM   #2
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Patiently awaiting your report.....
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:16 PM   #3
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So they are different, I suspect one has bluetooth and the other doesn't....
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:49 PM   #4
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Awesome!!! I'm picking up the part tomorrow but won't be able to install until another time. Thanks for the tip Rick!!! I'll also wait for the report
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:55 PM   #5
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Maybe one actually plays mp3 devices.
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:22 PM   #6
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So they are different, I suspect one has bluetooth and the other doesn't....
No, they are the same. The model number is the same (which almost guarantees it) and the FCC ID is the same (which completely guarantees it). You can see the bluetooth logo on the top right corner so it definitely has bluetooth as well (in addition to the FCC ID guaranteeing it).
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:49 PM   #7
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No, they are the same. The model number is the same (which almost guarantees it) and the FCC ID is the same (which completely guarantees it). You can see the bluetooth logo on the top right corner so it definitely has bluetooth as well (in addition to the FCC ID guaranteeing it).
I stand corrected, now will you also be able to pair your cell with the system?
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:51 PM   #8
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also what are the two different #'s? (3388, 0958) initially I thought they were part #'s
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:09 PM   #9
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Well it looks like this might not be a DIY after all. I reviewed the install instructions and it states that the radio needs to be programmed by a Service Programming System (SPS-TIS2WEB or equivalent).

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17. Perform the radio calibration upgrade. This will allow the radio to recognise the PDIM. This is required on all vehicles that have not had the PDIM installed before.
18. Perform a PDIM calibration upgrade. This will ensure the PDIM has the latest level of software available.
Based on the PDIM Software Update thread, not all dealers know how to do this :(

I'm going to install and see what happens when I power it up.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:12 PM   #10
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Well it looks like this might not be a DIY after all. I reviewed the install instructions and it states that the radio needs to be programmed by a Service Programming System (SPS-TIS2WEB or equivalent).



Based on the PDIM Software Update thread, not all dealers know how to do this :(
oh boy here we go.....
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:26 PM   #11
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I stand corrected, now will you also be able to pair your cell with the system?
You will be able to do A2DP streaming for music. You will not be able to use it for hands free calling.
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also what are the two different #'s? (3388, 0958) initially I thought they were part #'s
Not sure what those numbers are, they very well may be "part numbers". But the actual item is the KTB LS. From the FCC info, there's a KTB LS and KTB MS. I don't know what the difference is except for a chip in a slightly different place on one and an added component connected to that chip.

Maybe someone who has the PDIM out of their car could take it apart and tell me what the numbers on that chip are? Maybe the KTB MS is the one with more ram that could (with the right software) go past the 2500 song limit? Although the chip doesn't look like your typical ram chip. Not sure what it is.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:38 PM   #12
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Well it looks like this might not be a DIY after all. I reviewed the install instructions and it states that the radio needs to be programmed by a Service Programming System (SPS-TIS2WEB or equivalent).



Based on the PDIM Software Update thread, not all dealers know how to do this :(

I'm going to install and see what happens when I power it up.
Damnit!!!
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:40 PM   #13
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You will be able to do A2DP streaming for music. You will not be able to use it for hands free calling.
Hmmmmm. Thats silly, why not keep the phone pairing option also.
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Any way to add that also?
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:48 PM   #15
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Hmmmmm. Thats silly, why not keep the phone pairing option also.
Is it a FACT that the module doesnt add bluetooth phone integration? I don't think we'll know for sure until someone completes the install of this PDIM module.
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Hmmmmm. Thats silly, why not keep the phone pairing option also.
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Any way to add that also?
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Is it a FACT that the module doesnt add bluetooth phone integration? I don't think we'll know for sure until someone completes the install of this PDIM module.
The bluetooth phone stuff is integrated into the OnStar module. The only profile that is implemented in the PDIM is A2DP. There is no microphone hooked up to the PDIM module.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:55 PM   #17
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Where is the mic and where is it hooked into?
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:56 PM   #18
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I need a schematic.......
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:53 PM   #19
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Got the part, now I just need to find someone to install it...
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Old 10-02-2009, 05:18 PM   #20
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Is it easier to get a dealer to install this thing?
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:24 PM   #21
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It most likely will be, if you refer to post 9, the unit needs to be programmed once the PDIM is installed.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:24 PM   #22
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If only Daewoo had tested the damned thing better or gave more to whoever makes the head unit so they could test them.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:49 PM   #23
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not sure if matters but in the photo the on on the left says(certified for use in hong kong)
not sure if different from u.s. model!!!
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If only Daewoo had tested the damned thing better or gave more to whoever makes the head unit so they could test them.
Daewoo is owned by GM. Pretty sure the software/integration was done by GM engineers in Detroit. I would hope that the head unit doesn't have to be updated and that's just precautionary. Has anyone tried?
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Old 10-03-2009, 12:24 PM   #25
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S&T Daewoo is not owned by GM, GM only has a majority stake in GM Daewoo.

Unfortunately updating the head unit will not fix the problems with the connections and pairing people are having. The software/hardware of the PDIM is at issue for those types of issues.
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