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TrueChevyBoy72 · 10-02-2009, 03:22 PM

lol to all yall that r replying to my thread. i truthfully love the ls9 as well and it in a camaro is an awesome thought it truely is. i posted this to get some different feed backs from people. and so yall know i was told today by a dealer that he sees them coming out with a ls7 camaro but not the ls9 due to the fact that taking the ls9 and putting it in a cheaper car would bring chevys zr1 down. the prices would have to drop and that wouldnt be good for chevy. thats what he said dont kill the messanger

ShnOmac · 10-02-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueChevyBoy72

. and so yall know i was told today by a dealer that he sees them coming out with a ls7 camaro but not the ls9 due to the fact that taking the ls9 and putting it in a cheaper car would bring chevys zr1 down. the prices would have to drop and that wouldnt be good for chevy. thats what he said dont kill the messanger

I for see.... "your dealer is a idot" coming in the near future....

toehead93 · 10-02-2009, 03:31 PM

Agreed, dealers are typically the last ones to know. And even when they are told they still seem to get it wrong. I can almost guarantee that your dealer less information on the Z28 than this forum provides.

Number 3 · 10-02-2009, 04:34 PM

Then there would be the same theory that putting the Cadillac LSA motor in a Chevy would bring the price of the Cadillac down.

We are to the point were a great engine is a great engine.

Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number.

But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom.

TrueChevyBoy72 · 10-02-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shnomac77

I for see.... "your dealer is a idot" coming in the near future....

lmao nice well hes got my camaro so im being nice to him

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-02-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number.

But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom.

.....Unless they make the ZL1...dun-dun-dunnnnnn....

TrueChevyBoy72 · 10-02-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by toehead93

Agreed, dealers are typically the last ones to know. And even when they are told they still seem to get it wrong. I can almost guarantee that your dealer less information on the Z28 than this forum provides.

thats y i became a member... to learn from yall

TrueChevyBoy72 · 10-02-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Then there would be the same theory that putting the Cadillac LSA motor in a Chevy would bring the price of the Cadillac down.

We are to the point were a great engine is a great engine.

Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number.

But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom.

very true

99-LS1-SS · 10-02-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number.

But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom.

This is what I'm wishing for.

The Camaro will never really be a threat to the ZR1 even if they had the exact same horsepower. I don't think people realize just how badass the ZR1 really is. It's the total package.

tones2SS · 10-03-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS

The Camaro will never really be a threat to the ZR1 even if they had the exact same horsepower. I don't think people realize just how badass the ZR1 really is. It's the total package.

VERY WELL SAID!

SleepWarz · 10-03-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS

This is what I'm wishing for.

The Camaro will never really be a threat to the ZR1 even if they had the exact same horsepower. I don't think people realize just how badass the ZR1 really is. It's the total package.

allblackedout · 10-08-2009, 06:39 PM

so for all of you who worry about the power of a z/28 maybe chevy could team up with mercruiser they have a 1025 hp that runs on pump gas with a warranty and is made to run at 5000 rpms for long extended periods of time only drawback is that it is well over a 100 grand motor
http://www.mercuryracing.com/sterndrives/hp1025sci.php

tones2SS · 10-09-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by allblackedout

so for all of you who worry about the power of a z/28 maybe chevy could team up with mercruiser they have a 1025 hp that runs on pump gas with a warranty and is made to run at 5000 rpms for long extended periods of time only drawback is that it is well over a 100 grand motor
http://www.mercuryracing.com/sterndrives/hp1025sci.php

Isn't that a marine engine???

MikeW · 10-11-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Then there would be the same theory that putting the Cadillac LSA motor in a Chevy would bring the price of the Cadillac down.

We are to the point were a great engine is a great engine.

Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number.

But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom.

I think the Z28 will have the LS9 for the following reasons:

1) It is a Chevy engine to begin with so putting it in a Chevy Camaro does not devalue the engine.
2) The investment in the engine has already been made.
3) The best way to increase the return on that investment is to sell more units. So have three models, the Corvette, CTS and the Camaro vs just the Corvette and Cadillac. I'll bet the Z28 outsells both of the others combined.
4) Ford already has an intercooled supercharged version of the mustang, which proves there is a market for such an animal.
5) Keep up with the competition. See #4 above.

rodimus prime · 10-11-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS

This is what I'm wishing for.

The Camaro will never really be a threat to the ZR1 even if they had the exact same horsepower. I don't think people realize just how badass the ZR1 really is. It's the total package.

What he said.

The Camaro is way heavier and has the coefficent drag of a house. Id imagine that the front end starts to deform pretty bad at about 160ish.

2KZ28_For_Now · 10-12-2009, 12:23 AM

OK, as long as the Z/28 is Re-Offered, and it has an RPO code (shhhhh) available to drop the body kit, I would accept "ANY" LS-X engine for it.

But, the LSA makes PERFECT sense.

Doesn't it?

I think so......

"Sooooooooo.............K, Bye!!!"

:-)

Vega · 10-12-2009, 09:11 PM

Well i also believe an LS9 Camaro wouldnt cut into the ZR1 sales but for different reasons, and its the same reason the Yenkos and COPOs didnt cut into the Corvette sales in the 60s. Corvettes and Camaros are way different cars that draw in way different crowds, Camaro people will always look for and buy Camaros and Corvette people will always look for and buy Corvettes, its not a matter of price for these people its just the model of car they're looking for.

That aside im not sure GM would drop the LS9 in the Z/28, i would imagine they would drop the LS7 in it because that's what they advertised at SEMA and thats the next highest tier in the Corvette (Coupe/LS3 - Z06/LS7 - ZR1/LS9) Besides speculation i would preffer the LS7, i just preffer N/A engines (as opposed to the LSA or LS9) plus the SEMA Camaro had 586hp from its LS7 so they can easily get the power needed, also im just really against the LSA because i believe the Z/28 should be a truley unique model of car and with the LSA it would just be a re-badged CTS-V with weight savings (arguements pending right? LOL)

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-12-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vega

That aside im not sure GM would drop the LS9 in the Z/28, i would imagine they would drop the LS7 in it because that's what they advertised at SEMA...

SEMA is a show for after-market stuff, though, isn't it? I suppose they put that engine in there to advertise their crate motors.

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Originally Posted by Vega

Besides speculation i would preffer the LS7, i just preffer N/A engines (as opposed to the LSA or LS9) plus the SEMA Camaro had 586hp from its LS7 so they can easily get the power needed,

Problem here is...that power was not gained while still meeting emissions...which they would need to do in a factory-produced car...

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Originally Posted by Vega

also im just really against the LSA because i believe the Z/28 should be a truley unique model of car and with the LSA it would just be a re-badged CTS-V with weight savings (arguements pending right? LOL)

Would the LS7 be anymore unique than a LSA?

Not to mention the LS3, or LLT....It will be unique in it's presentation and overall package...just not the individual parts.

djsnoflake · 10-12-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Would the LS7 be anymore unique than a LSA?

Not to mention the LS3, or LLT....It will be unique in it's presentation and overall package...just not the individual parts.

Not to mention the LS7 is being mothballed.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-13-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by djsnoflake

Not to mention the LS7 is being mothballed.

Yeah, well...that's the check-mate argument...the other reasons are more fun.

SLT223 · 11-03-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueChevyBoy72

very true but he does it all professionally and like every engine if u take care of it, itll last longer.

Are you talking about oil changes, air filters, and spark plugs? Cause those ain't going to save a bottom end rotating assembly when you snap the throttle on a 1175hp intake charge. I"m not trying to start a pising match, but after market tuning on the HP range your are talking about is for those who can afford to throw away $20k. I guess the question is how you define "throw away" in these circumstances. For most people it would be a risk decision. For me it definately is. I feel that the kind of after market tuning you are talking about is for folks how afford build, play with, and replace $20k out of pocket. I can't, which is exactly why I want a factory SC'ed car. 645HP is more than enough for me. I'll be just fine with the 556hp in the LSA, if they go that route.

Snyder_Camaro · 11-04-2009, 10:09 PM

Different strokes for different folks. It's all about what each individual person can afford....

10-02-2009, 03:22 PM	#26
TrueChevyBoy72 Mr. Officer Drives: Amazing 2010 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DeLand, Fl Posts: 16	lol to all yall that r replying to my thread. i truthfully love the ls9 as well and it in a camaro is an awesome thought it truely is. i posted this to get some different feed backs from people. and so yall know i was told today by a dealer that he sees them coming out with a ls7 camaro but not the ls9 due to the fact that taking the ls9 and putting it in a cheaper car would bring chevys zr1 down. the prices would have to drop and that wouldnt be good for chevy. thats what he said dont kill the messanger __________________ Officer H. Johns

10-02-2009, 03:31 PM	#28
toehead93 Drives: 2010 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 2,024 View My Garage	Agreed, dealers are typically the last ones to know. And even when they are told they still seem to get it wrong. I can almost guarantee that your dealer less information on the Z28 than this forum provides. __________________ 2SS A6 Black 360 RWHP/382 FTLBS - tune only Mods on: Dynatech LTs, Vararam Intake, Pedders Xa's, DiabloSport tuned

10-02-2009, 04:34 PM	#29
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '11 Cruze Turbo & '13 Audi S4 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,145 View My Garage	Then there would be the same theory that putting the Cadillac LSA motor in a Chevy would bring the price of the Cadillac down. We are to the point were a great engine is a great engine. Now if they did put the LS9 in the Camaro, I could see them having it be simply 600 HP to keep the ZR1 top dog for the ulitmate HP number. But even at equivalent HP there would be no doubt that the 500 pound lighter ZR1 would still be king of the Chevy showroom. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley Link to Every Camaro photo I've taken in Hi-Resolution

10-12-2009, 12:23 AM	#41
2KZ28_For_Now SS Shotgun Ride?!??! :-) Drives: 2000 Z28 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,552	OK, as long as the Z/28 is Re-Offered, and it has an RPO code (shhhhh) available to drop the body kit, I would accept "ANY" LS-X engine for it. But, the LSA makes PERFECT sense. Doesn't it? I think so...... "Sooooooooo.............K, Bye!!!" :-) __________________ LT LS RS SS LS3 LSA-Z28 (Skip the body kit)

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