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Driver side sub enclosure 16 69.57%
Passenger side sub enclosure 11 47.83%
12" Subwoofer 14 60.87%
10" Subwoofer 9 39.13%
Amplifier 16 69.57%
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:44 PM   #1
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Group Buy - Custom Speaker Boxes, Amps, Subs (Updated post 25)

Hey guys.

A few of us got to talking about subwoofers, amps, boxes, etc. and adding to our stereo systems last night while out at Biffs.

Koolwhip and I ran over to Gus (from Custom Sounds) and spoke with him regarding a "group buy." This was mainly for subwoofer speaker boxes for the trunks of our Camaros. But, he mentioned doing a deal on speakers too. I'll get more in detail with him on that later.

He has not given me any pricing info as of yet, but said he'd get some #'s down on paper. I think he would rather want to see how many people are interested in doing this before going in on a group buy and giving out prices too soon.

However, he DID say he was more than happy to get a deal going with us on the boxes to start.

With that, I dropped off my custom subwoofer enclosure that one of Gus's employees, Brandon, made for my Camaro. All you guys out at Biffs have seen it and you know it's a pretty good quality box and sounds great. They are getting all the specs from that box to make more just like it.

*** That box was specially made for my JL W3 V2. Brandon said he could easily make the enclosure to fit other sizes of speakers (with larger magnets, mounting depths, etc), so we can ALL be covered. The box was mainly for the left side enclosure.

I want to get a right side enclusure made as well like Justin.

So, let's see how many folks out there are interested in getting the boxes made.

If you are interested in more than a box, post up and let me know. I'll compile the info and head back to Gus with the info (or just point him to this thread) and we'll see what we can do.

So far, I know these folks are interested....

Justin / Skooter
Koolwhip / Steve
Daryl (board name?)
Tag / ME!

Anyone else interested, POST UP! Let's get this group buy going!!!
Let us know what you want. Speakers, Amps, boxes, etc. Just toss in all the info.

(I would not worry too much about brand of speaker or amp at this point. This is mainly to gain interest in boxes. But, if enough people are interested in subs, maybe he can work a deal on a specific sub for all of us - same for amps).
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:10 PM   #2
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Hey Tag,

I my past experience, I personally have felt that 4 - 8" subs are much better and less "BOOMY" for tighter bass music, like classic rock.

Can you add 4 - 8" systems in or am I the only rocker?

I just hate when the car vibrates and the bass is muddy, maybe all my years of drum playing makes me long for a tight thud!


But I am in for a whole set like that. 2 boxes, one on each side, an amp to mount under the rear deck and speakers!
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:11 PM   #3
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I wish you would have sent this out on Friday. I just bought a complete system from Steve at Subthump. Story of my life, a day late dollar short.
Good info anyway.
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:54 PM   #4
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Hey Guys! I'm fairly new to the site and am waiting for my 2SS IOM to arrive in a few weeks....I would be interested in getting a pair of subs, amp, and speakers...the whole nine yards...Keep me posted.

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Hey Doug, the specs on the subs I am looking at are as follows:

10" Alpine Type-X
8.5625" Mounting Depth (8-9/16")
7.15625" Magnet Diameter (7-5/32")

I tried calling them yesterday but the line was busy, and I'm not sure if they're open on sundays. I can get the subs for $208 a piece and I can get the amps (Alpine PDX-1.1000) for $499 a piece. If they can beat those prices, I'm sold.
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:29 PM   #6
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Roger that.

PM me where you can get those prices (in case he asks).
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:48 PM   #7
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Good ideal...I need to see where I'm at with money though so post up the prices or PM me and I'll see what I can do.

Mostly the side subs is what I'm interested in...but will look at the other items too.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:20 AM   #8
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Yeah...I was mainly interested in the box for the passenger side.

Then Koolwhip said he wanted a drivers side box, sub, and amp.

Daryl said the same thing.

Well hell....how many others wanted in???

Justin said he wanted the subs, boxes, and amps....

dude....group buy???

So, talked to Gus and it was on.

I know...recap. But still.

I hope to get about 10 total to start with that are serious.

We have 5 SERIOUS that I know of and looks to be about 4 more according to the poll.

I'll see if we can get some prices and we'll go from there.
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Old 10-05-2009, 01:03 AM   #9
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I am interested in more info for the sub system. I don't know which system to go with. Getting one is on my short list.

Would you folks tell us more information?
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I am serious, if I can get 8". I guess that is a no go?

I may just build it myself. I had 4 - 8" in a closed box, hooked up to an Alpine System in one car with a 1200Watt Amp and it was PERFECT! Tight Bass!!
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Good morning. I did not do the poll because I didn't want to give you a false tally... I am system illiterate, and have no clue what you guys are talking about really, but I would like to improve my sound system. And in case you are wondering, I am female, so maybe that tells you all you need to know.

So since I do want to consider improving the sound, the real deal breaker for me is the cost. From the other post it looks like it is definitely more than a grand, but would it be more than 2 grand? The money might make the difference for me, and of course the time frame that it would happen in.

Oh, and the fact that I am in Houston, would this be stuff we could get installed so it could be shipped? I know there is no specific pricing yet, I am just looking at ball park on the high side so I can make a decision and let you know if I might be in or not.

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I did the poll, just so you know I am one of the ones ni the poll as of now. I selected Driver/Pass./Amp/12" sub. I recall you saying something about a 10" sub on the Pass. side.? I am in for both sides and the amp.

Let me know when I can give Gus a call to get it done. I obviously want to wait until we get the prices.

Let me know if you need any help.

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Hey guys.

A few of us got to talking about subwoofers, amps, boxes, etc. and adding to our stereo systems last night while out at Biffs.

Koolwhip and I ran over to Gus (from Custom Sounds) and spoke with him regarding a "group buy." This was mainly for subwoofer speaker boxes for the trunks of our Camaros. But, he mentioned doing a deal on speakers too. I'll get more in detail with him on that later.

He has not given me any pricing info as of yet, but said he'd get some #'s down on paper. I think he would rather want to see how many people are interested in doing this before going in on a group buy and giving out prices too soon.

However, he DID say he was more than happy to get a deal going with us on the boxes to start.

With that, I dropped off my custom subwoofer enclosure that one of Gus's employees, Brandon, made for my Camaro. All you guys out at Biffs have seen it and you know it's a pretty good quality box and sounds great. They are getting all the specs from that box to make more just like it.

*** That box was specially made for my JL W3 V2. Brandon said he could easily make the enclosure to fit other sizes of speakers (with larger magnets, mounting depths, etc), so we can ALL be covered. The box was mainly for the left side enclosure.

I want to get a right side enclusure made as well like Justin.

So, let's see how many folks out there are interested in getting the boxes made.

If you are interested in more than a box, post up and let me know. I'll compile the info and head back to Gus with the info (or just point him to this thread) and we'll see what we can do.

So far, I know these folks are interested....

Justin / Skooter
Koolwhip / Steve
Daryl (board name?)
Tag / ME!

Anyone else interested, POST UP! Let's get this group buy going!!!
Let us know what you want. Speakers, Amps, boxes, etc. Just toss in all the info.

(I would not worry too much about brand of speaker or amp at this point. This is mainly to gain interest in boxes. But, if enough people are interested in subs, maybe he can work a deal on a specific sub for all of us - same for amps).
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Im actually ordering from Custom Sounds in Austin later this month (going with JL 12W3 and JL 500)

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What are they charging for the boxes? What is the airspace in the box? What was regular price?
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Well, looks like we have a pretty good number of people for a start. I'll call Gus today and see if we can get prices for our Camaro5 group.

Firstmate, it would not exceed a grand. In fact, one of our guys got a quote for a box, sub, amp, wiring kit, and install at just over $700. What I'm trying to do is toss out the idea to everyone and get more people interested, thus lowering the price on a group deal.

When I went in there and had my box made, they kept my car for two days and spent a lot of time getting it right for the airspace and shape of the trunk. It cost me a bit more.

However, I dropped off my box so folks getting the same size speakers would not have to wait and drop off their car for special fitting, etc....thereby reducing the amount of work the shop has to do and that reduces OUR cost. If it's easier for them, it should be easier for us.

Xmicro, we never spoke about 8" subs....I would have no clue on those. This was for 10's and 12's with a main focus on deals being made for the boxes. I'm working on deals for speakers and amps....but am not 100% sure that would work.

So, let me call...let me see what I can do.

I'll get back to everyone so we can all see where we stand.
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Xmicro, we never spoke about 8" subs....I would have no clue on those. This was for 10's and 12's with a main focus on deals being made for the boxes. I'm working on deals for speakers and amps....but am not 100% sure that would work.

So, let me call...let me see what I can do.

I'll get back to everyone so we can all see where we stand.
Thanks Tag,

I do not want to shake up the group, do not worry about me if it is an issue, I was going to go to a local place, but if you guys were doing them I would add to the group buy. 8" Subs are much better sounding for Rock Music.

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Thanks Tag,

I do not want to shake up the group, do not worry about me if it is an issue, I was going to go to a local place, but if you guys were doing them I would add to the group buy. 8" Subs are much better sounding for Rock Music.

I dunno about that. It really depends on the other speakers in the system in addition to the subs. If you have one or two 10" subs added onto the stock stereo system in the Camaro, rock music will sound really clean (since I know you have the BA system). I pretty much only listen to rock, so I'm pretty picky too

8-inch subs can't really hit anything below 40 Hz and those are the deep bass frequencies that make bass drums sound really clean.

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^I'll have to agree.

I'm a Rock N' Roll guy myself. My old set up of a 12 and a 10 REALLY did wonders....from rock to country to my occassional California Love and REGULATORS!!! (mount up!).



I just got off the phone with Gus and he's working up some prices on the JL 12's, JL 10's, the JL amp, Alpine amp, and the drivers/pass enclosures.

Remember, 12's go in the left side enclosure and 10's go in the right. If you want two 10's, that won't be an issue...they can put a 10 in the left if the customer wants.
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OK, I will trust my Fellow Camaro Brothers on this. Two Tens, one on each side with a nice amp. Hopefully instructions on how to tap the factory amp for sound feed and we are a go.

Just waiting for prices before my final decision.

Thanks Guys!

JL is great for Subs. That is the 4 - 8" I had JL Audio!
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You are not going to be able to tap into the factory amp to power even one sub. It just wasn't designed to do that. But, if you can figure it out!

Seriously, it's not going to happen...unless that amp is designed for MUCH MORE power and it's using hardly anything. You are going to need a specially assigned amp to run the subs. That factory amp is prolly running (total guess here) 40 watts to each factory speaker). You are going to need 200 to 300 watts running PER sub. Factory amp just isn't set up for that.

If you want, you could always search out 4 -8" JL subs and pick up two 1 channel amps to power the subs....two subs per amp. And, you could get the two JL amps here.
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He just means tapping into the factory wiring to get the RCA sub signal inputs.
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Very Cool. Thanks for the work TAG. I can take my car over this week to have all the work done if we can get a price from Gus soon and he has the boxes made. I will call him after we hear back from you.



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^I'll have to agree.

I'm a Rock N' Roll guy myself. My old set up of a 12 and a 10 REALLY did wonders....from rock to country to my occassional California Love and REGULATORS!!! (mount up!).



I just got off the phone with Gus and he's working up some prices on the JL 12's, JL 10's, the JL amp, Alpine amp, and the drivers/pass enclosures.

Remember, 12's go in the left side enclosure and 10's go in the right. If you want two 10's, that won't be an issue...they can put a 10 in the left if the customer wants.
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He just means tapping into the factory wiring to get the RCA sub signal inputs.
Woops! I read that wrong!

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Very Cool. Thanks for the work TAG. I can take my car over this week to have all the work done if we can get a price from Gus soon and he has the boxes made. I will call him after we hear back from you.
No problem. Hope it doesn't take too long getting back to me. I WILL have this thread updated as soon as I get the info...hopefully in a few hours or less.
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Update:

I spoke to Gus not too long ago and these are the rates he is offering. These parts can be sold separately as well as package deal First....

Individually...
  • Drivers side box $255.00 (12" sub)
  • Passenger side box $255.00 (10" sub)
  • JL 12" W3V3 Sub $175.00
  • JL 10" W3V3 Sub $165
  • JL G1300 (300wX1) Amplifier $185
  • Alpine MRPM (500wX1) Amplifier $155

Total Package Deal:

Alpine Amp 500w
Amp wiring kit
Drivers side box
12" JL W3V3 sub
12" Protective Grill (highly recommended)
Parts on box, Labor to install

= $876.31 tax included.

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Drivers side box, 12" JL sub, grill = $466.53

Passenger side box, 10" JL sub, grill = $419.00

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Gus recommends the Alpine amp over the JL amp since he says it hits harder. With an extra 200 watts, I would imagine so.....(and it appears to be $30 cheaper, so....)


Just FYI, before jumping in here, I found these items on ebay....and all were cheaper...:(
The only issue I foresee with buying from ebay is having a warranty issue and trying to get it fixed.
But, here's a few links to what I found.


JL 12:http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-AUDIO-12W3V3-...d=p3286.c0.m14

JL 10:http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-JL-AUDIO-10W...d=p3286.c0.m14

JL amp: http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-AUDIO-G1300-3...d=p3286.c0.m14

Alpine amp: http://cgi.ebay.com/ALPINE-MRP-M500-...=p4295.c0.m299

Before seeing this, I felt we might get a better deal. But, it's only $10 to $20 difference on all the parts. Your call what you want to do. Remember, this was mainly for boxes only....but it was a shot to get a group deal on parts. $255 for the box is their going rate. Take it if you want.
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