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Old 10-07-2009, 11:32 AM   #1
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Suspension guys out there - lets talk wheel hop

My track experience was definately dampened by LOTs of wheelhop all through 1st and 2nd gear. This was with stock tires at stock pressure. Lets talk about practical ways to remove wheel hop. (NOTE: on the street, the tires are free to spin and there really isn't any hop).

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Old 10-07-2009, 12:04 PM   #2
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This should help.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41731
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:18 PM   #3
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Thanks .. I saw this but was looking for additional input. Im currious if anyone has tried the items in your link and if they work.

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Old 10-07-2009, 12:22 PM   #4
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the BMR bars should help a lot with weight transfer (to the rear)...I'm pretty sure someone posted there w/boost and had good results. Those and some drag-radials should make it launch much better.
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:25 PM   #5
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i noticed this also, my cousin has a cts-v and he replaced the bushings on the diff carrier/suspension mount with poly bushings and said that it was almost gone. then replaced one axle shaft with a larger one (cannot remember which side) and it is gone completely now. since it uses the same susp that would probably solve our problems too
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:31 PM   #6
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I use the BMR on my 2010 camaro turbo charged car and wheel hop is gone. $139 and 30 mins problem solved.
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:44 PM   #7
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I use the BMR on my 2010 camaro turbo charged car and wheel hop is gone. $139 and 30 mins problem solved.
Good to know my friend ... I see this in my future
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The trailing arms from BMR will help certainly http://www.ipsmotorsports.net/produc...oducts_id=3655, and then bushings, Subframe bushings from pfadt which will release soon, and control arm bushings will yield much less hop, and transmit more power through the rear end.

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Old 10-08-2009, 11:00 AM   #9
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Our trailing arms will take care most the wheel hop the car is having. There is many guys out there using them with tons of success. We will also have our new line of bushings out in the next few weeks which will also help. First things first get a set of our trailing arms and go from there.
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:25 PM   #10
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I just ordered my BMR trailing arms from IPS and my car should be done by in the next few days. I will install the trailing arms and share the results. I'm confident that they will do their job!
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:00 PM   #11
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I just ordered my BMR trailing arms from IPS and my car should be done by in the next few days. I will install the trailing arms and share the results. I'm confident that they will do their job!
Definitely let us know how they work for you.
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:31 PM   #12
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Pfadt Race Engineering Control Arms

We're working on a Rear Trailing Arm as well as a Rear Tie Rod. They are currently in development and if you're at SEMA you can see them in person! These are the real deal and they weigh less than 50% of the factory unit as well as being over 2x stronger!!!

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I would highly recommend our Engine Mounts, Trans Mount, sub frame mounts and Differential Bushings as this is where most of your movement is coming from. We've found that the tires load and unload which causes the powertrain to load and unload; the soft mounts just weren't designed to handle this variable. Once this happens the relatively soft spring rate and damping can't control the movement. We've worked with a lot of the fastest C5/C6 Corvettes and this has proven to be a winning combination on those platforms.

We're continually developing new products and they will be worth the wait! Please feel free to call or email us anytime to locate a dealer in your area or with tech/set up questions. Have a great day!

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My track experience was definately dampened by LOTs of wheelhop all through 1st and 2nd gear. This was with stock tires at stock pressure. Lets talk about practical ways to remove wheel hop. (NOTE: on the street, the tires are free to spin and there really isn't any hop).

Thanks,
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:06 AM   #15
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the 2 weak links in the rear suspension are the cradle bushings and the rear diff bushings. These 2 bushings should be replaced first.

Pedders has 4 Drag packages available. Here is the first level that is designed to for the drags:
Kit 1
PEDDERS CAMARO BASIC DRAG BUSHING PACKAGE
Merlin Store P/N is CAMAROBASICDRAG
10/5/09 The Zeta II CAMARO Platform Is an excellent beginning suspension package that can be greatly improved with the magic that Pedders has to offer. Wheel hop is an issue for the G8. There will be 3 levels of Pedders Drag Packages to meet the needs of the occassional user to the hard core user. This is Level 1, our basic package

Part # Pedders Compnent
EP1201 CAMARO TOTAL REAR SUB FRAME BUSHING REPLACEMENT
EP1167HD REAR ZETA HD DIFFERENTIAL BUSHING KIT
EP6578 CAMARO Front Radius Rod STIFFENING SNUBBERS (new)
PDUSACAMFULL CAMARO REAR EXTENDED CAMBER, TOE ADJUSTERS, FRONT CASTER ECCENTRICS & CAMBER ADJUSTERS

Kit 2:
PEDDERS CAMARO DRAG BUSHING KIT #2
Merlin Store P/N is CAMARODRAGKIT2
10/5/09 This kit is designed to strengthen up the back end by replacing all the bushings in the rear and increase front positive caster. The strength of this drag package is to pass on torque, and seriously reduce wheel hop, and improve the 60 feet times. There will be 3 levels of Pedders Drag Packages to meet the needs of the occassional user to the hard core user. This is Level 2

Part # Pedders Compnent
EP1201 CAMARO TOTAL REAR SUB FRAME BUSHING REPLACEMENT
EP1167HD REAR ZETA HD DIFFERENTIAL BUSHING KIT
EP6578 CAMARO Front Radius Rod STIFFENING SNUBBERS (new)
EP7322 Camaro Rear Control arm - Upper inner rear. Possibly being updated
EP7264 Zeta rear lower control arm inner
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
PDUSACAMFULL CAMARO REAR EXTENDED CAMBER, TOE ADJUSTERS, FRONT CASTER ECCENTRICS & CAMBER ADJUSTERS
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.

Kit 3
10/5/09 PEDDERS CAMARO EXTREME DRAG PACKAGE
Merlin Store P/N is CAMAROEXTDRAG
This package is for the CAMARO owner who uses his CAMARO primarily for Drag Racing. They will be able to use it on the street as well, but the handling through the twisties may be reduced There will be 3 levels of Pedders Drag Packages to meet the needs of the occassional user to the hard core user. This is Level 3, our extreme package

P/N PEDDERS PARTS DESCRIPTION
220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
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220032 "Camaro 2009 Front drop Coils & Ride Height with 20"" Wheels at 667mm
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EP1167HD REAR ZETA HD DIFFERENTIAL BUSHING KIT
EP1201 CAMARO TOTAL REAR SUB FRAME BUSHING REPLACEMENT
EP2112 Zeta Steering Rack Bush
EP6577 CAMARO Front Radius Rod Bushing
EP7322 Camaro Rear Control arm - Upper inner rear. Possibly being updated
EP7264 Zeta rear lower control arm inner
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
PDUSACAMFULL CAMARO REAR EXTENDED CAMBER, TOE ADJUSTERS, FRONT CASTER ECCENTRICS & CAMBER ADJUSTERS
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.

Kit 4
PEDDERS CAMARO EXTREME XA DRAG PACKAGE
Merlin Store P/N is CAMARO EXTXADRAG
10/5/09 This package is for the CAMARO owner who uses his CAMARO primarily for Drag Racing. They will be able to use it on the street as well, but the handling through the twisties may be reduced There will be 4 levels of Pedders Drag Packages to meet the needs of the occassional user to the hard core user. This is Level 4,iT ADDS OUR ExTREME xa KIT to Level 3

P/N PEDDERS PARTS DESCRIPTION
160086 Camaro eXtreme Xa Multi Adjustable Coilover Kit By Pedders with 8kg/mm Front and 10kg/mm Rear Coil Rates
EP1167HD REAR ZETA HD DIFFERENTIAL BUSHING KIT
EP1201 CAMARO TOTAL REAR SUB FRAME BUSHING REPLACEMENT
EP2112 Zeta Steering Rack Bush
EP6577 CAMARO Front Radius Rod Bushing
EP7322 Camaro Rear Control arm - Upper inner rear. Possibly being updated
EP7264 Zeta rear lower control arm inner
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
PDUSACAMFULL CAMARO REAR EXTENDED CAMBER, TOE ADJUSTERS, FRONT CASTER ECCENTRICS & CAMBER ADJUSTERS
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out.

So you have 4 choices to be able to work within your budget

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