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Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 11:38 AM

Ok so for anyone w/ a M6. What does your car idle at? This is more of a sanity check. I can't really be the only one right?

Mine will idle at 500RPM which to me seems low. Couple this with the narrow window of engagement on the clutch and damn if I don't stall this car like a 16yr old learning how to drive. Before anyone says it I've driven manuals since day 1. 6 in all and this is my 4th with a hydraulic clutch. I traded a 2006 GTO M6 in for it. And that car was a snap.

Anyway on the GTO and my truck they both idled at 750 and you could fell the clutch as it engaged and they were easy to drive. The Camaro idles so low as soon as I feel the clutch start to come in it is almost fully engaged and the car is trying to stall. I'm sure i'll get a better feel of the pedal as it comes in. hills have been pissing me off though. On one, when I need to give extra gas I keep slipping the clutch too much and smelling up the place.

Anyone else seeing this? I'm thinking about getting the predator and tuning up the idle some.

Michael_Js · 10-07-2009, 12:12 PM

I haven't paid attention to idle RPMs...but I have no issue with starts from 1st. Sounds like you need to raise her up a bit

Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 12:16 PM

I might have painted the picture a little too gloomy. I've had a couple issues coming off hills. One was ridiculously steep. Other times I'd like to come off from a stop a little smoother. I can launch her hard with no issue.

Maybe I should just to that all the time.

BTW I noticed the RPM because I was sitting at a light and it stumbled like it was going to quit. When I looked down it was at 500 and I thought something was wrong. then I watched and it stayed there. Every now and then it drops just below that and gives a rough spot.

FredSS · 10-07-2009, 12:29 PM

Mines about 750 until it warms up then its about like you said around 500.

POWERFREAK · 10-07-2009, 12:30 PM

mine's @ 500rpm.

clutch just takes some getting used to...especially on hills.

Crowley · 10-07-2009, 01:13 PM

Mine idles around 500 rpm.

Crowley

2010 2-Tone · 10-07-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowley

Mine idles around 500 rpm.

Crowley

Hey Crowley,
I bet yours don't stay at 500 long with the work you have done!!!!

Oldrocker · 10-07-2009, 01:40 PM

You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

2SSRS · 10-07-2009, 02:06 PM

Same for me it is 500 or so and it dos take some time to learn.

Dans2SS · 10-07-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldrocker

You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

I don't see the need to rev it up though (though I'm starting to see it now). I like to let out of the clutch and feel it start to grab then feather in the throttle. What I'm finding it the clutch catch in such a narrow range on the clutch that it starts to bog a little quicker than my other cars. But when you idle at 500 any bog puts you in stall range. Try to give it throttle too early especially on the hillls and that is when I get he whispy smell of clutch.

I guess I'll figure it out. Just a pain in the butt.

I'm finding myself to drive it like all the Mustang guys I made fun of for all these years. Blipping the throttle to wake her up and then rolling into it.

PAUL SS · 10-07-2009, 05:29 PM

Mine seems to be around 600. At first I was a little timid when engaging the clutch, but now I just push one pedal down and bring the other one up. You drive the car, it doesn't control you.

2010 CAMARO SS RS · 10-07-2009, 08:11 PM

my audi a8l idles at about 700 rpm!?!?!?!?! the camaro my cousin has idles at about 600

hamidar05 · 10-07-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dans2SS

I don't see the need to rev it up though (though I'm starting to see it now). I like to let out of the clutch and feel it start to grab then feather in the throttle. What I'm finding it the clutch catch in such a narrow range on the clutch that it starts to bog a little quicker than my other cars. But when you idle at 500 any bog puts you in stall range. Try to give it throttle too early especially on the hillls and that is when I get he whispy smell of clutch.

I guess I'll figure it out. Just a pain in the butt.

I'm finding myself to drive it like all the Mustang guys I made fun of for all these years. Blipping the throttle to wake her up and then rolling into it.

I told JD Power this clutch sucks... I had a 70 Mach 1 manual, and it was consistent... non-hydraulic... this thing is like rolling the dice at different RPMs.. and you shouldn't have to heel toe it.....

cheaplabor · 10-09-2009, 06:58 PM

my wife bugs me cause i stalled ours a couple of times also, i have size 12.5 feet which dont fit well in the foot wells. cowboy boots don't help either!
my fourth gen was so easy it just about drove itself, my heel could stay in one place and i could push the clutch in with my toes, i drove my cousins
cts-v and it is also very easy, this car is kinda wierd to get used to. embarassing, lighting up 20's is expensive....and cool

Dans2SS · 10-10-2009, 09:38 AM

For now if I blip the trottle a little before coming up w. the clutch it is fine. I dont' like doing it but it lets me catch it withthe RPM closer to 750.

MEDISIN · 10-10-2009, 10:09 AM

Mine idles at 500 as well and on occasion gets a little shake to it but not real noticable. I have almost 1000 miles on it and stalled for the first time last night. Uphill traffic light with a 370Z next to me. He shot off and I stalled

But I took him on the two previous lights and easily pulled away in 2nd

Road_Warrior85 · 10-10-2009, 02:06 PM

yeah the clutch is a pain in my ass too.

I have pretty much figured out how to put it in the friction spot and let it start to pull away... I just hate how quiet it is. I gotta get my exhaust fixed, that way i hear the motor start to bog when i let the clutch out too much before taking off.

I just wish I could get better at doing it quicker. Like if i stop at a stop sign, and try to hurry up and go, I will come out of the clutch too fast and miss the friction spot (since that range is so small anyway) and that makes me stall out. I have to stop, then slowly ease it out and let it start to pull, then go. Otherwise I miss it and stall.

Im tired of that and waiting to get the hang of it better

Jay_LHD3 · 10-10-2009, 05:43 PM

Day 3 and no problems with 1st here (feathering the gas a little), but finding the sweet spot to shift to 2nd & 3rd is taking some getting use to.

I fell like I'm nose diving every time I hit second and third.

I know how to drive a manual (last five cars were manuals) so I'm telling everyone in the car that its all the horsepower that I'm not use to!!!

SSOOCH · 10-10-2009, 06:11 PM

I had not driven a car with a manual transmission in ten years. I have yet to stall my new Camaro. I think it's easier to drive than a little econo box with manual.

topgun1 · 10-10-2009, 06:23 PM

no stalling here, although the clutch disengagement is loud sometimes at a crawling speed when putting it into neutral coming to a stop, parking, or rolling. I just hate the 1-4 skip shift!

Road_Warrior85 · 10-11-2009, 09:50 AM

yeah I never use 2nd gear.... I almost always go straight from 1st to 3rd

Coldpants · 10-11-2009, 11:11 AM

Great I have not driven a stick for 14 years and then it was only for a few months. Well if I stall too much I will just wear a Bra and clown nose. Nothing distracts people from noticing poor driving like a fat guy in a bra.

busaboy · 10-11-2009, 05:57 PM

when i first got mine the clutch was on or off. very little room for slippage. i really had to pay attention to prevent stalling. i now have 2200 miles on it and the clutch is much more friendly. even my wife is happy with it now. she was afraid to drive it when new.

avro206 · 01-03-2010, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheaplabor

my wife bugs me cause i stalled ours a couple of times also, i have size 12.5 feet which dont fit well in the foot wells. cowboy boots don't help either!
my fourth gen was so easy it just about drove itself, my heel could stay in one place and i could push the clutch in with my toes, i drove my cousins
cts-v and it is also very easy, this car is kinda wierd to get used to. embarassing, lighting up 20's is expensive....and cool

hey I was laughing too! First time I have ever seen you stall anything!

With your "trouble" in mind...I did not stall it

omegaman · 01-03-2010, 09:22 PM

750 rpm idle. But here in Phoenix the air is always dry and warm.

10-07-2009, 11:38 AM	#1
Dans2SS Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 147	I swear I've driven a manual car before. Ok so for anyone w/ a M6. What does your car idle at? This is more of a sanity check. I can't really be the only one right? Mine will idle at 500RPM which to me seems low. Couple this with the narrow window of engagement on the clutch and damn if I don't stall this car like a 16yr old learning how to drive. Before anyone says it I've driven manuals since day 1. 6 in all and this is my 4th with a hydraulic clutch. I traded a 2006 GTO M6 in for it. And that car was a snap. Anyway on the GTO and my truck they both idled at 750 and you could fell the clutch as it engaged and they were easy to drive. The Camaro idles so low as soon as I feel the clutch start to come in it is almost fully engaged and the car is trying to stall. I'm sure i'll get a better feel of the pedal as it comes in. hills have been pissing me off though. On one, when I need to give extra gas I keep slipping the clutch too much and smelling up the place. Anyone else seeing this? I'm thinking about getting the predator and tuning up the idle some. __________________

10-07-2009, 12:12 PM	#2
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,329 View My Garage	I haven't paid attention to idle RPMs...but I have no issue with starts from 1st. Sounds like you need to raise her up a bit __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; Subthump; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

10-07-2009, 12:16 PM	#3
Dans2SS Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 147	I might have painted the picture a little too gloomy. I've had a couple issues coming off hills. One was ridiculously steep. Other times I'd like to come off from a stop a little smoother. I can launch her hard with no issue. Maybe I should just to that all the time. BTW I noticed the RPM because I was sitting at a light and it stumbled like it was going to quit. When I looked down it was at 500 and I thought something was wrong. then I watched and it stayed there. Every now and then it drops just below that and gives a rough spot. __________________

10-07-2009, 12:30 PM	#5
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,211	mine's @ 500rpm. clutch just takes some getting used to...especially on hills. __________________ 2010 R6P-2SS/RS/LS3 - IBM w/ silver rally stripes / UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NY5thgen.com

10-07-2009, 01:13 PM	#6
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,772 View My Garage	Mine idles around 500 rpm. Crowley __________________

10-07-2009, 12:29 PM	#4
FredSS Drives: 201 Red Tint Metalic 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Allen Texas Posts: 36 View My Garage	Mines about 750 until it warms up then its about like you said around 500.

10-07-2009, 01:40 PM	#8
Oldrocker Drives: 2010 SS2/RS Victory Red Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Here and Now Posts: 388	You should start accelerating while releasing the clutch so idle RPM would be irrelevant.

10-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#9
2SSRS On a list for a 2014 Z28 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 10,245 View My Garage	Same for me it is 500 or so and it dos take some time to learn. __________________ My Build Thread E-mail Amigoop3@yahoo.com

10-07-2009, 05:29 PM	#11
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 7,664 View My Garage	Mine seems to be around 600. At first I was a little timid when engaging the clutch, but now I just push one pedal down and bring the other one up. You drive the car, it doesn't control you. __________________ ################################################## ################################# The Few, The Proud, The Aqua Blue Metallics 709 of 3903 New England Camaro5 . My Camaro Journal Heritage Grill, Cold Air Inductions Intake, Elite Engineering Catch Can, BMR 1" Lowering Springs, Sway Bars and End Links, Clear Image Jet Hot Ceramic Coated headers and High Flow Cats, Hurst Billet 2 Shifter, LSR Billet Strut Washers, DynoMax Axle Back Exhaust, JANNETTY MAGIC!

10-07-2009, 08:11 PM	#12
2010 CAMARO SS RS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 141	my audi a8l idles at about 700 rpm!?!?!?!?! the camaro my cousin has idles at about 600

10-09-2009, 06:58 PM	#14
cheaplabor It the toybox 4 winter Drives: '11 hemi wrangler/2010 rs/2ss abm Join Date: May 2009 Location: okotoks,alberta, canada Posts: 248	my wife bugs me cause i stalled ours a couple of times also, i have size 12.5 feet which dont fit well in the foot wells. cowboy boots don't help either! my fourth gen was so easy it just about drove itself, my heel could stay in one place and i could push the clutch in with my toes, i drove my cousins cts-v and it is also very easy, this car is kinda wierd to get used to. embarassing, lighting up 20's is expensive....and cool

10-10-2009, 09:38 AM	#15
Dans2SS Drives: Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 147	For now if I blip the trottle a little before coming up w. the clutch it is fine. I dont' like doing it but it lets me catch it withthe RPM closer to 750. __________________

10-10-2009, 10:09 AM	#16
MEDISIN Drives: 2011 CTS-V Sedan Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 842 View My Garage	Mine idles at 500 as well and on occasion gets a little shake to it but not real noticable. I have almost 1000 miles on it and stalled for the first time last night. Uphill traffic light with a 370Z next to me. He shot off and I stalled But I took him on the two previous lights and easily pulled away in 2nd __________________ 2012 - Present: 2011 CTS-V Sedan, A6, Black Raven 2009 - 2012: 2010 2SS RS IBM M6 Photos, MGW Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms/Tunnel Brace, Roto-Fab CAI, VMAX Ported TB, Kooks 6511-Complete (Headers, X-Pipe, Mufflers), dyno tuned by R.P.M. = 415 hp/412 lb-ft.

10-10-2009, 02:06 PM	#17
Road_Warrior85 Drives: IBM 2SSRS, 05 Hemi powered Jeep TJ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cullman, AL Posts: 674	yeah the clutch is a pain in my ass too. I have pretty much figured out how to put it in the friction spot and let it start to pull away... I just hate how quiet it is. I gotta get my exhaust fixed, that way i hear the motor start to bog when i let the clutch out too much before taking off. I just wish I could get better at doing it quicker. Like if i stop at a stop sign, and try to hurry up and go, I will come out of the clutch too fast and miss the friction spot (since that range is so small anyway) and that makes me stall out. I have to stop, then slowly ease it out and let it start to pull, then go. Otherwise I miss it and stall. Im tired of that and waiting to get the hang of it better __________________

10-10-2009, 05:43 PM	#18
Jay_LHD3 Drives: CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SW Georgia Posts: 1,691	Day 3 and no problems with 1st here (feathering the gas a little), but finding the sweet spot to shift to 2nd & 3rd is taking some getting use to. I fell like I'm nose diving every time I hit second and third. I know how to drive a manual (last five cars were manuals) so I'm telling everyone in the car that its all the horsepower that I'm not use to!!! __________________ Last edited by Jay_LHD3; 10-11-2009 at 07:31 PM.

10-10-2009, 06:11 PM	#19
SSOOCH "El Dictator" Drives: 08 HHR SS, 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,366 View My Garage	I had not driven a car with a manual transmission in ten years. I have yet to stall my new Camaro. I think it's easier to drive than a little econo box with manual. __________________

10-10-2009, 06:23 PM	#20
topgun1 Drives: 10 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,944 View My Garage	no stalling here, although the clutch disengagement is loud sometimes at a crawling speed when putting it into neutral coming to a stop, parking, or rolling. I just hate the 1-4 skip shift! __________________ 5th Gen Camaros of the Carolinas SIM, 2SS/RS LS3 5/7/11 453.9 RWHP 427.5 RWTQ VMS Stage 2.5 Comp Cams kit, Cold Air Inductions intake, ADM race scoop, DT 1 3/4" headers, Solo cats, 3" Magnaflow catback, Pypes cutouts, HP tune, H&R SuperSport springs, Eibach sways/spacers, TexasSpeed UD pulley, LSR tensioner pulley, Barton shifter, skip shift eliminator, powder-coated calipers, R1 concept rotors, StopTech pads, Granatelli wires, Lloyds mats, tint, AAC afterburner taillamps, AAC scanner/sidemarkers, SRP pedals, custom engine cover, black bowties, Ridergraphix hood spears....

10-11-2009, 09:50 AM	#21
Road_Warrior85 Drives: IBM 2SSRS, 05 Hemi powered Jeep TJ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cullman, AL Posts: 674	yeah I never use 2nd gear.... I almost always go straight from 1st to 3rd __________________

10-11-2009, 11:11 AM	#22
Coldpants Nerdy one Drives: #000000 & #FF8000 2010 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: (elba), ct Posts: 804 View My Garage	Great I have not driven a stick for 14 years and then it was only for a few months. Well if I stall too much I will just wear a Bra and clown nose. Nothing distracts people from noticing poor driving like a fat guy in a bra. __________________ Dave McFly: Modern cars are awash in “It-goes-to-11” ergonomics. No one asked for it. It’s just in your car because—like black mold or a carjacker with herpes—it can be. SHORT FAT ROUND NINJA

10-11-2009, 05:57 PM	#23
busaboy Drives: Black RS/SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TX Posts: 209	when i first got mine the clutch was on or off. very little room for slippage. i really had to pay attention to prevent stalling. i now have 2200 miles on it and the clutch is much more friendly. even my wife is happy with it now. she was afraid to drive it when new.

01-03-2010, 09:22 PM	#25
omegaman Drives: very poorly Join Date: May 2009 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 428	750 rpm idle. But here in Phoenix the air is always dry and warm. __________________ 2SS RS, RJT, 6M, GRAY INT, 20" ACE WHLS, BLK RALLY STRIPES, AIRAID CAI, PFADT SPRINGS, KOOKS LT & CATS

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