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Old 10-07-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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which mobil 1 oil to use?

ok well my car is at 1500 miles and even tho the dealer said i dont need to change the oil, i am going to anyway...

from my understanding of oil, it really doesnt matter what you use, as long as you use something relatively high end and synthetic, between all the top brands 99.9% of the population (like me) wont notice a difference.... correct?

this is my first new car, and preformance car and my family recommends mobil 1... but which mobil 1 should i be using? 5W-30 extended preformance? 5W-30 regular? 15W-40? or is there a better oil that I should be using besides mobil 1?

thanks for any help!
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:12 PM   #2
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Mobil ! 5W 30 for me!!! I did my first change @ 1100 miles and she really appreciated it!! DOn't forget to use a K-& N oil filter too!! (HP-1017 for my LS3). You can do a search but I think you'll find the general consensus is Mobil one, besides that's what it tells you on the oil fill cap (for the LS-3 anyway)!!
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:02 PM   #3
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Mobil1 or Pennzoil Platinum 5w with either a Mobil1 or K&N for me.

I get excellent returns from Blackstone on my oil analysis.

You could just change the filter if you wanted. keep old one, allow to drain out and cut it open. You will be amazed.

How hard were you drining her? Outside GM's mandated break in?
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Old 10-08-2009, 01:14 AM   #4
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Mobil1 or Pennzoil Platinum 5w with either a Mobil1 or K&N for me.

I get excellent returns from Blackstone on my oil analysis.

You could just change the filter if you wanted. keep old one, allow to drain out and cut it open. You will be amazed.

How hard were you drining her? Outside GM's mandated break in?
umm yea you could say that lol... i was testing out 0-60 and 0-100 times by aroud 450 miles for a few days straight about 10 runs each day of just flooring it... (mostly for hte 0-60 tho).......

so mobil 1 5w-30 is good to use for the general oil over and over along with a k&n oil filter? got it....

any comments on the extended preformance mobil 1 5w-30? is it worth it?
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:29 AM   #5
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I use Mobil 1 5W-30 with a Mobile 1 filter on all my cars.
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:08 AM   #6
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:02 AM   #7
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As posted above, just use what your owners manual says. It specifically calls for oil that is certified to GM-4718M standards in the LS-3. As long as that certification is on the bottle (and many don't have it, including the Mobil-1 extended performance), it is a good oil to use that won't affect your drivetrain warranty. Regular Mobil 1 synthetic, and AMSOIL are both GM-4718M Certified, although the AMSOIL is ridiculously expensive.
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:27 AM   #8
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In the grand scheme of things, I think Mobil 1 is just fine for 99% of us and keeps Chevy from bitching at us for using something else. Any of the oil like Royal Purple and Amsoil is great stuff (I use it in my off-road race truck), but alot is fluff and hype for the benefits gained vs. price.

In short, oils made today are so much further advanced than just 20 years ago. Just about any oil that is certified GM-4718M will do the job splendidly compared to the dreck we poured into our cars in the 60's and 70's

I know Amsoil dealers will get on here and talk about wear tests and all that, but the fact remains Mobil 1 and their research budget, its still pretty good oil, and more than sufficient for our stock LS3's
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I know that all the Royal Purple products are really good stuff (I use it in my truck), but just realize that there is nothing about the GM-4718M certification standard on their bottles or website. After reading about that in the owner's manual, I guess I'm a little hung up on that now. But I know I'm not going to use anything that may possibly void my drivetrain warranty in the future. To each his own I guess....
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:36 PM   #10
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where do you buy a k and N oil filter?
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:40 PM   #11
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you can buy the stock ac delco filter on amazon.com. if GM trusts it, I do too. After all, they are warranting the engine for 100,000 miles. Why the need for K&N oil filter????
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:46 PM   #12
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Summit Racing Equipment, Jeg's ,Autozone, Advance Auto Parts or direct from K&N(most expensive).
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:59 PM   #13
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Compare actual products. Use Amsoil. It lasts much longer and protects better and gives better performance. It is not ridiculously expensive as some misinformed person posted. It actually pays for itself in lasting longer plus better mileage and then puts money in your pocket. You can get it at 25% to 30% discount on the Preferred Customer program they offer. The K&N people are not very informed. Simply pick up a K&N filter and look at it. See all those specs of light??? Those are called HOLES. Just exactly how much dirt can a hole filter out of the air? NONE. Get a better filter.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:01 PM   #14
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Royal Purple was recently sued for lying to the public and had to change their advertising. If it does not state the spec on the vbottle, it does not meet it. Plain and simple. Use Amsoil for a better product.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:09 AM   #15
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Mobil1 or Pennzoil Platinum 5w with either a Mobil1 or K&N for me.

I get excellent returns from Blackstone on my oil analysis.

You could just change the filter if you wanted. keep old one, allow to drain out and cut it open. You will be amazed.

How hard were you driving her? Outside GM's mandated break in?
GM mandated break in is for wussies.

Drive it HARD like you mean it.

I've got 470 miles on mine so far driving it as hard as I can and it has responded very well.

I changed my oil at 50 miles and will do so again at 500 miles.

I had some oil soot on my back bumper but this is decreasing.
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Compare actual products. Use Amsoil. It lasts much longer and protects better and gives better performance. It is not ridiculously expensive as some misinformed person posted. It actually pays for itself in lasting longer plus better mileage and then puts money in your pocket. You can get it at 25% to 30% discount on the Preferred Customer program they offer. The K&N people are not very informed. Simply pick up a K&N filter and look at it. See all those specs of light??? Those are called HOLES. Just exactly how much dirt can a hole filter out of the air? NONE. Get a better filter.
$8.99 a quart is not ridiculously expensive?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? Yes, I think that is very expensive. I'm am sure Amsoil is great stuff, or at least it better be for that price!!!! But for the "average joe" (like me) who isn't a member of any Preferred Customer Program, or doesn't want to wait for oil to be shipped to them, and just wants to go down to Napa and buy some oil, $8.99 is too much (at least for me). JMO...

I don't see why all the speculation and questions about which oil to use?? The owner's manual specifically states to use any 5W-30 oil that is certified to GM-4718M standards (for the LS3 anyway). That excludes Royal Purple, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, and several others. It's easy, just look on the bottle to make sure it meets the standards. Other than that, it doesn't really matter, Does it???
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I own an 07 Infiniti M35, 05 Infiniti G35 Coupe, 07 Honda Civic, 05 Honda Civic, 99 Dodge Dakota (Fishing Truck) and my 2010 CAMARO 2SS and nothing but Mobil 1 and a WIX filter go on everytime.
P.S. My car insurance is $8400.00 a year. Gotta pay to play!
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:45 AM   #18
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Do some research and you will find Amsoil is the best all around. I have it in all 5 of my vehicles.

http://lubedealer.com/simplysynthetics/
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you can buy the stock ac delco filter on amazon.com. if GM trusts it, I do too. After all, they are warranting the engine for 100,000 miles. Why the need for K&N oil filter????
Because most of the wear that may cause engine problems after 100k occurs prior to 100k. By using a better filter, you will definately assist in the prevention of that wear.

The cost difference between a Mobil1 or K&N over an inferior brand is what? $6-7? Now you have $7 over say 10-15 oil changes over 100k or say 6 years and what is the additional cost per year for a better filter? $18?

I will pay the extra $18.
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I own an 07 Infiniti M35, 05 Infiniti G35 Coupe, 07 Honda Civic, 05 Honda Civic, 99 Dodge Dakota (Fishing Truck) and my 2010 CAMARO 2SS and nothing but Mobil 1 and a WIX filter go on everytime.
P.S. My car insurance is $8400.00 a year. Gotta pay to play!
Wow...And I thought $812 a year for my SS was high.
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Wow...And I thought $812 a year for my SS was high.
I pay a little over $2100.00 a quarter for 100-300-100. $812.00 a year for an SS is a great price!!!
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Royal Purple was recently sued for lying to the public and had to change their advertising. If it does not state the spec on the vbottle, it does not meet it. Plain and simple. Use Amsoil for a better product.
i used mobil 1 but a freind of mine works at a exxon refinery and said they use royal purple on the refinery equipment ,pumps, generators and such now tell me why exxon mobil uses royal purple on there own equipment ?? strange !! and as for oil filters purolater pure one is one of the best filters it has more filtering material in it and knowone has mentioned that filter yet.
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For those of us who believe oil and filters are important, I suggest you look at this forum.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...s.php?ubb=cfrm

Plenty of UOA's, TBN's, filter, oil, grades, additive package discussions. Oil is like Baskin Robbins. Find your favorite flavor and go with it.
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There are a handfull of companies that make oil filters. Companies bid to put their names on them. 8 out of ten filters are the same just different name on them. There are also a few companies that make car batteries as well and the same process is followed for that as well. Think about it, how many companies can make the oil filter "better"?
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There are a handfull of companies that make oil filters. Companies bid to put their names on them. 8 out of ten filters are the same just different name on them. There are also a few companies that make car batteries as well and the same process is followed for that as well. Think about it, how many companies can make the oil filter "better"?
That rationale holds true for the lower tier filters.
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