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Old 10-09-2009, 03:58 PM   #35
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IBM is a great color - they should keep it. When I was looking at other cars before the Camaro came out I def wanted something dark blue, like navy. If I hadn't fallen in love with my RJT I'd have gotten the IBM.
There are not alot of cars out there in such a dark blue, it's refreshing compared to those flaming blue cars (IMO those are tacky- I like the color just not on cars).
The ABM is nice (same as above- nice color, but personally would never want it on my car) but I'd think that would be the dropped one as it's more of a love/hate color....you really have to LOVE it to have it on your car.
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:06 PM   #36
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We have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

We DO watch color penetration very closely - and when a color falls below 3% application rate, we receive a warning from the assembly plant -- and we must get that up or the color will be in danger of being dropped. (Doug mentioned Sport Gold and Hugger Orange as examples on the 4th gen)

But -- again - we have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

(....and let me say this: the color is stunning - a much 'clearer' Dark Blue than Navy Blue on the 4th gen -- which had a lot of 'red' in it)
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:13 PM   #37
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We have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

We DO watch color penetration very closely - and when a color falls below 3% application rate, we receive a warning from the assembly plant -- and we must get that up or the color will be in danger of being dropped. (Doug mentioned Sport Gold and Hugger Orange as examples on the 4th gen)

But -- again - we have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

(....and let me say this: the color is stunning - a much 'clearer' Dark Blue than Navy Blue on the 4th gen -- which had a lot of 'red' in it)
Just give me time to order mine. By the way, See you in LA next week.
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Old 10-10-2009, 01:22 AM   #38
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If IBM is dropped that would be a real shame unless they decide to ditch ABM as well and replace both with a more Medium Blue Metallic as seen on last years Sema #6 Car. Fbodfather once said here before that they take a look at any colour which falls below the 3% of sales rule and discuss whether or not that colour should be retained, however, nothing is set in stone and trends / moods change on a daily basis too. So sit back and enjoy IBM now and if GM decides to drop it for 2011, hey, at least I got mine as I have absolutely no plans on giving it up either!

LUV MY IBM..........

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We have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

We DO watch color penetration very closely - and when a color falls below 3% application rate, we receive a warning from the assembly plant -- and we must get that up or the color will be in danger of being dropped. (Doug mentioned Sport Gold and Hugger Orange as examples on the 4th gen)

But -- again - we have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.

(....and let me say this: the color is stunning - a much 'clearer' Dark Blue than Navy Blue on the 4th gen -- which had a lot of 'red' in it)
Thanks fbodfather again for stepping in and clarifying this for us! I agree, Imperial Blue is by far way more stunning than the Navy Blue it replaced that adorned the 4th Gen Camaro. One of the reasons why I chose it in the first place!
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:09 AM   #39
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Holy Shi! doc, where did you get those wheels?

On topic, I don't thinK you could do better than (paintend) black rallye stripes and hockey stripes on IBM. It's my only regret. Please don't stop the IBM!

Doc, where did you get those wheels?


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Old 10-10-2009, 04:04 AM   #40
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Holy Shi! doc, where did you get those wheels?

On topic, I don't thinK you could do better than (paintend) black rallye stripes and hockey stripes on IBM. It's my only regret. Please don't stop the IBM!

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Thanks for the compliment.

I got them from Nutek; ask for Jim Dunphy. GREAT guy to work with and he said he'll work with Camaro5 members to give them the best deal and service he can. Just say Doc from Camaro5 sent you.

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Old 10-10-2009, 10:00 AM   #41
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Hey Im ok if ABM isn't a very popular color..
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:26 AM   #42
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dont GM dare take away ABM, the best color out there. Everything else is just so damn common with every other car in this world.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:10 PM   #43
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dont GM dare take away ABM, the best color out there. Everything else is just so damn common with every other car in this world.
That's why it's the highest selling, right?......right?
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:30 PM   #44
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and when a color falls below 3% application rate, we receive a warning from the assembly plant -- and we must get that up or the color will be in danger of being dropped.
Not looking good for ABM. Around 2%.

I heard from other sources that ABM is no longer orderable after dec. but, thats is just another internet rumor that I read.
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:23 PM   #45
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It's very common for them to drop colors in mid production. 1998: Sport Gold Met. dropped after half a year, 1999, Hugger Orange: dropped after half a year. These are just two examples. It's common and they don't send out any notices.

I hope it's just a rumor though about IBM. I love that color.
Very true my man, I should know. I have a '99 Hugger Orange SS that is a 1 of 35 built car!!
I think that the IBM color is KILLER!!! Hopefully they keep it.
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:39 PM   #46
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Here's the problem. Most dealers, ours included, just STARTED ordering Aqua Blue Metallic Impala's. We just put one in our dealership. We've had more people tell us that is the best looking Impala they've ever seen. Well, the only thing different is, it's Aqua Blue Metallic.

We have three people interested in it, so it will be interesting to see who gets it. But I DO KNOW, that we will be throwing in orders, all for ABM.

Remember, what happens to the CAMARO, also effects the Impala - same paint line. ABM isn't getting a fair shake - not to mention, it's not like we've HAD an opportunity to order ABM Camaro's for the lot (OK, at least, not at our dealership!)
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Old 10-10-2009, 07:47 PM   #47
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Well, at least GM is intelligent by considering getting rid of the least popular color. Dodge did just the opposite: Hemi Orange was the 2nd most popular Challenger color and Dodge ditched it for the 2010 model year. Then they also ditch White, which is only the most popular color among all cars. Don't make no damn sense.
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Old 10-10-2009, 08:00 PM   #48
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IIRC Aqua Blue sells less than IBM, and I believe IBM is available on other vehicles as well, meaning it's not that hard for them to just use that paint on the Camaro. I could very easily be wrong on this, but I can't think of another GM model that uses Aqua Blue.
IBM is also available on the Impala, and Silverado as well. ABM also comes on the HHR. Not sure about other models using ABM. I love the colors. Though IBM is not as striking as ABM
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Old 10-10-2009, 11:18 PM   #49
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I got ABM--like it a ton. The only other color I'd trade for is IBM...damn beautiful!

I think one of the blues won't be around for 2011.
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:04 AM   #50
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I wouldn't mind seeing IBM go away after I get mine in a week. Obviously, that is not happening yet, BUT if it did... can you say COLLECTIBLE?? Think if only 3% of the Camaros made in the first year of production were IBM and then it stopped. Whoa. All the intangibles of a classic.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM   #51
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But -- again - we have no plans at this time to eliminate Imperial Blue Metallic.
Please speak to the ABM issue. Please? How much time do we have to order one in that wonderful color?
Thank you!
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