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Old 10-13-2009, 07:05 AM   #1
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What's a Z28?

Seriously what does Z28 mean to you? I know what it means to me, and I know I'm in the minority. I just want to know what the majority think.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:14 AM   #2
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Camaro Badassery?
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:30 AM   #3
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z28 should equal the automotive definition of badassery!
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It's an RPO code. You order your camaro with the Z28 package.
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Old 10-13-2009, 09:34 AM   #5
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It's an RPO code. You order your camaro with the Z28 package.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:08 AM   #6
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Z28 is the King of Camaros.
The top, the best, the most sought-after.

It's a trim, not an option, and it just oozes performance value.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:13 AM   #7
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When GM decides, I believe it should have a different engine platform as the 69 had the 302 specific only to the Z.

Thus the LS7..

RPO agreed, but not an LS3 with supercharger.

But will likely be the LSA..
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:14 AM   #8
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Z28 is the King of Camaros.
The top, the best, the most sought-after.

It's a trim, not an option, and it just oozes performance value.
I thought the ZL1 was.

http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...camaro-zl1.htm
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:37 AM   #9
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Z/28

It means my first car, which looked similair to these pictured. It means the best looking Camaro if not car on the street in my opinion.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:44 AM   #10
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More style... SS means power

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Old 10-13-2009, 11:50 AM   #11
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The Z/28 has been many different things over the years... initially it was the simple little car that could... then it became a marketing cliche. Heritage... or what does it mean today? Just like the 5th Gen Camaro did not copy the exact lines of the first Gen Camaro... it took those lines as inspiration and brought it to the present. The same could be done for the Z28. A purpose built car, like the original. Are we worried about road racing like the original??? Probably not. What is this cars inspiration? Eating GT500s? I would like to think that, I would like that... but then it would seem we are morphing towards the ZL1. The LS7 Camaro to me exudes ZL1... a LSA equipped Camaro with tight suspension and larger brakes... that to me is Z28... the ZR1 little brother... with bite.

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The LS7 Camaro to me exudes ZL1... a LSA equipped Camaro with tight suspension and larger brakes... that to me is Z28... the ZR1 little brother... with bite.
I can give you a on that..On point!
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Old 10-13-2009, 12:35 PM   #13
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I think RSHugger hit the right phrase for the Z28 "a purpose built car" - because thats what the Z28 really was.

The purpose of the Z28 was to allow GM to compete in a racing circuit and allow anyone to buy on Friday night, race on Saturday - right off the showroom floor without making modifications to meet class requirements (or so I've read / heard from various people).

So if we take that away from the original RPO code - the "monniker" that has come to be the Z/28 - what can we say about it? If GM sticks true to taking inspiration from the heritage of the Camaro, then they will - as was previously stated - make a "purpose built car".

Making a car that had the purpose of being the "most badass car" on the street would still be a purpose built car and be true to the original Z/28 intent. Making the car a GT500 killer would be purpose built. Anything you do will be purpose built because the car will be, honestly, driven (pun intended) towards that end.

I just wish everyone would realize this and stop fighting over who will be the top dog. Its really stupid. I mean seriously - I understand you want to think you bought "the best Camaro" - and that the Z/28 might make you think you "should have waited". But you had to have known that GM would never leave the Z/28 behind because it's become a huge symbol for the Camaro brand and could never be forgotten. The SS has fallen by the wayside - ressurected ONLY in the 4th generation of Camaros (1993-2002) and only because the fans started to ask "whatever happened to the SS?"

Because GM already had a Z/28 car in those years - naturally the SS would be the higher performing option.

So they stick a bigger engine in the current Z/28 plans - so what. As long as GM sticks to the original intent (which I have faith they will do so) then it is still purpose built - the purpose simply to be the best Camaro of them all.

If you really feel the need to go out and get a Z/28 - then do it. Make it happen. We control our lives and the only ones holding us back from doing anything we dream of is ourselves. But think about this - if you own a Camaro already, then you are a few - a special lucky few. You are the ones who can say "I had it first - I have a special car with a special history that only few can say they own. I will get the attention of hundreds if not thousands of people because I bought a car that is a rock star" (that attention will eventually die down) - because while everyone might have a Camaro in the years to come, out of all the thousands, or ten thousands, the ones that bought it first are pioneers - explorers all. You are helping not only to spread the word about one of the best cars on the road - but you are also helping to make it better. Your thoughts, your experiences, your opinions... GM is listening to this board, to what you have to say - so make it count.

Just *my* 2 cents...
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Z/28 also means smaller, high output engine if we reference the '60s. But I don't see GM making a smaller high output engine.
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To me a the Z/28 is a car that thrives in the twisties.... Not just a straight line.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:34 PM   #16
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Z/28 is the RPO code for the Camaro built for homogation into Trans Am series in the late 1960's and it morphed into the performance Camaro after the 1972 model year. The Z28 is the taught suspension Camaro for the real world (not necessarily the top dog either ) it comes with an improved engine over the V8 (in most cases but not necessarily) and the best componants from the parts bins for handling (springs, sway bars, shocks....et al).
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I don't know if I think it's superior to SS, however, I know that no other car has Z28 as an RPO code, so I think it's definately unique. I always thought it represented great performance for the value and I hope that holds true in the future.
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Z/28 is the RPO code for the Camaro built for homogation into Trans Am series in the late 1960's and it morphed into the performance Camaro after the 1972 model year. The Z28 is the taught suspension Camaro for the real world (not necessarily the top dog either ) it comes with an improved engine over the V8 (in most cases but not necessarily) and the best componants from the parts bins for handling (springs, sway bars, shocks....et al).
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Z28 is the King of Camaros.
The top, the best, the most sought-after.

It's a trim, not an option, and it just oozes performance value.
Your version of the Z/28 is powerd like "engines" in my avatar......
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Your version of the Z/28 is powerd like "engines" in my avatar......
I'll take two of those for my Z28. LSA will work too
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Z/28 is the RPO code for the Camaro built for homogation into Trans Am series in the late 1960's and it morphed into the performance Camaro after the 1972 model year. The Z28 is the taught suspension Camaro for the real world (not necessarily the top dog either ) it comes with an improved engine over the V8 (in most cases but not necessarily) and the best componants from the parts bins for handling (springs, sway bars, shocks....et al).
In the 3rd & 4th gen 1LE meant "taught suspension Camaro for the real world and the best components from the parts bins for handling." Z28 meant base V8. (IROC & SS were upgraded V8's)

It was different in 1st and 2nd gen.

It will likely be something different in 5th gen, if it comes to pass.
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The Z28 was the RPO chosen to compete in SCCA and Trans-Am racing. Why? Because Z27 was the RPO number for the SS. The Z28s had 302 cu. in. motors till 69, then with the release of the 70.5 (second gen) cid went to 350cu.in. how many SS Camaros in the late 60s and 70s had solid lifters, aluminum intakes, with a Holley carb? And in the special option packages a cross-ram with two! As well as a 4 wheel disc brake option. OK You want a performance car with style,Comfort and Luxury? Get the SS. But if you wanted a factory race car get the Z28 option. Now Im talking from when it all began not the newer Camaros 77 and later. Whole different car.
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The ZL-1 was a one-off "extra" Camaro. Consider the ZL-1 a rowdy "cousin". Only 70 were ever built (if you include the truly one-off 1993 ZL-1). I sincerely believe we all overestimate the car's role in Camaro history, as impressive as it is.

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Your version of the Z/28 is powerd like "engines" in my avatar......
hehe...yup!! BUT...make no mistake, "my Z28" handles better than a Vette, too. ......The King.......
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Camaro Z/28, Z28, IROC-Z28: All-around top model Camaro special performance. Speed, handling, braking, looks. Comes standard or is available with all the best.

That should be the book definition.
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