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Old 10-14-2009, 12:02 AM   #1
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I'm not a camaro owner yet but I'm saving up some money for a 69 camaro just wanted to know whats better a z28, SS, or rs? which is has more hp and torque, I guess is what I'm asking.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:15 AM   #2
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ehh....from the factory with the right boxes checked the SS would have the most hp and tq.
But so few are stock these days it almost doesn't matter what you buy unless you want an original collector type car
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:23 AM   #3
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My plan is to modify it some but try to keep it as stock as possible
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:20 PM   #4
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If you go by the numbers, the SS had more HP and Touque, but the Z28 was under rated at 290 hp. Whichever choice you make you cant lose, both are great models that offer alot, the SS is alittle more refined car and the Z is more race car like with the heavy duty suspension, and high revving 302 solid cam motor.
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:25 PM   #5
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How much $$ do you plan on spending? that's gonna dictate a lot.

It's gonna be hard to find a Z/28 unless you want to spend big bucks...and you wont want to modify it.

The RS is more of an appearance package.

If you don't care if it's original, keep an eye out for one that's already been modified...you'll probably save a lot of $$, just make sure it's a solid car and not hacked up.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:43 PM   #6
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I don't know how much I'm gonna spend on it, but I do know that I'm planning on getting a 502 big block engine and upgrade the paint to silver w/ black racing strips
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:50 PM   #7
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I don't know how much I'm gonna spend on it, but I do know that I'm planning on getting a 502 big block engine and upgrade the paint to silver w/ black racing strips
well if that's the case, just try and find one without a motor, why are you worried about which model came with the most power?
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:25 PM   #8
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i just wanted to know when one would add more to the 502 big block
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:44 PM   #9
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i just wanted to know when one would add more to the 502 big block
add more how? mmmmm...power-wise it makes no difference which model, if you're putting the motor in. If you can find one that was originally a bigblock, chances are it'll have a 12 bolt rear and the correct front springs/motor mounts (as well as front disc brakes if I remember correctly).
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:55 PM   #10
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thanks man
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:57 PM   #11
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thanks man
no problem...good luck in your search.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:53 PM   #12
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Don't waste your time on a Z, SS or RS if your planning on a engine swap. Once the engine is removed (in my opinion) it becomes just a Camaro don't pay extra for something that will not benifit you later. I Paid just under $10,000.00 for my #'s matching 69' SS in 1992. I ran into a guy at the gas station the other day he paid $10,000.00 for a rolling chasis in the last couple of months.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:09 AM   #13
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I agree that you should not waste the extra bucks on the Z/28 or the SS if you plan to modify. In fact, some of us stock Z/28 fans out here would hunt you down if you did.

I would, however, recommend finding an RS if you like the RS hideaway headlights. The only issue with them is that they take up some engine compartment space and are hard to keep working (if you care about that).
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:13 PM   #14
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if ur gonna stick with the engine u get with the car, go with the SS. tht was the top-end engine class, then the z28. but if ur gonna swap the motor or mod it too much, just get the cheapest one u can find thts in decent condition, dont waste the money on the nicer model if ur not gonna use it
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:57 PM   #15
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personally, from all of my experience with parts... Chevy parts are the easiest to find and also the easiest to rebuild... body style is what you really want to look for with a classic muscle car... personally i like the SS/RS model the most... buy a 350 off of craigslist (caddilac or chevy cuz the pontiac, Olds, and Buick have a different motor type for thier line) i can promise you though you will not find one under 10k with matching numbers so unless you are building to sell i wouldnt worry about that... just serch through google pics and see what body you like... you may not know the difference at first glance but pay attention to the hood, rims, side skirts, and fender wells... Im also looking for a 1st gen camaro to build on but im specificly looking for a 67 I6 thats stock that I can build a aluminum block Yanko Clone with... I guess what im trying to say dont spend your money without doing the research... dont get tricked by the mayco paint jobs either... if you want help with finding one or what you look for when you go to buy one let me know and id be more then willing to help you out... I have family up in oregon so if your on the south side of washington i might be able to meet up on a vaca or something... 714-514-1384 kemick
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:24 AM   #16
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Put a 400 Pontiac in a 69 Camaro, paint it white with 2 blue stripes and see who gets more pissed off, Pontiac or Chevy guys!
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Put a 400 Pontiac in a 69 Camaro, paint it white with 2 blue stripes and see who gets more pissed off, Pontiac or Chevy guys!
why would he want to make it slow?
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:13 PM   #18
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Put a 400 Pontiac in a 69 Camaro, paint it white with 2 blue stripes and see who gets more pissed off, Pontiac or Chevy guys!
i wudnt be pissed, tht wud be awesome! pontiac and chevy are the best lol
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:31 PM   #19
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Nuff said.....................
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:34 PM   #20
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Put a 400 Pontiac in a 69 Camaro, paint it white with 2 blue stripes and see who gets more pissed off, Pontiac or Chevy guys!
pondiac 400 motor bored out to a 455 is a Drag racing motor with a TH400 trans... maybe throw in 12-bolt posi-trac rear end and you have a stock motor pushing 12s in the quarter... upgrade the trans clutches, carb, manifolds, and other bolt on pieces and you could be pushing up to 450 to 500 to the crank...

that being said... pontiac and chevy lovers are all GM lovers... i have a 2nd gen trans am and am looking for a 1st gen rolling chassis to restore for a sick show/weekend driver... i wouldnt get pissed at all being a GM lover... tell me you dont like the Firebirds if you love the camaro... or the Chevy belair if you like the pontiac bonneville... say what you want but theyre all the same cars... just GM had pontiac build the stronger motors... as long as you stay away from the 301/305 with the 200C combo from either GM line you will be okay and have a strong running motor that will last a long time... all that being said... other GM products like the olds 442 (pontiac/olds/buick drivetrain), 52 caddilac eldorado (GM/Chevy/Caddi dirive train) theyre all on the same chassis and have the same chassis as other cars... to this day the H2 is still using the same chassis as the Suburban and Yukon XL...

basically if you but a Ford 460, or a Dodge hemi in it then ill be mad (unless its the full aluminum dodge hemi drag motor then id be fine with it)

its all GM... If you have hat hate ford and dodge... not family... haha
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