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Old 10-14-2009, 09:26 AM   #1
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JBA Shorties coming for V6

I was helping a friend at a dealership source parts for a customer yesterday. Thought I'd pass this along. JBA said they would be shipping their V6 shorties in about 2 weeks. The part # is 1816S.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:35 AM   #2
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AWESOME ! That is the way to go right now with no tune yet available.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:56 AM   #3
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I'm interested...but still waiting for some dyno info.
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x2 and shorties dont throw a code? or was that long? or both>>? hmmmm
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gotta look into this, don't want a cell either
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Old 10-14-2009, 01:14 PM   #6
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shorties should not throw a CEL. I would need to look at where the sensor is located ,but guessing it is much farther down the pipe like it is on my V8.
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:40 PM   #7
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Looks like 3 finishes

Plain Stainless Steel Finish 1816S

Silver Ceramic Coated Stainless Steel * 1816SJS

Titanium Ceramic Coated Stainless Steel * 1816SJT

Header Features::
3/8" thick laser-cut flanges
Mandrel-bent stainless steel primary tubes
JBA sealing rings on head flange
Premium quality hardware included
Limited Lifetime Warranty
Will not void factory warranty
Optional ceramic coating (thermal barrier)
50 state smog legal*
*Currently under EO approval for California

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anyone know some hp # s on this
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:51 PM   #9
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anyone know some hp # s on this
WILD GUESS TIME... maybe 7 to 10 RWHP... Should deepen the exhaust note up a bit... Lot of room under the car so should be a pretty straight forward install...
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:59 PM   #10
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anyway to get high flow cats with these... any estimates what these with mbrp exhasut and intake might gain?
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:39 PM   #11
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WILD GUESS TIME... maybe 7 to 10 RWHP... Should deepen the exhaust note up a bit... Lot of room under the car so should be a pretty straight forward install...

I guess that seems fair, not a mechanic but are they easy to install? I have some tools, anything special I would need, any welding or are they a direct bolt on. I am assuming direct bolt on
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anyway to get high flow cats with these... any estimates what these with mbrp exhasut and intake might gain?
It appears that the V6 uses the same cats as the SS. They should flow well enough.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:52 PM   #13
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shorties should not throw a CEL. I would need to look at where the sensor is located ,but guessing it is much farther down the pipe like it is on my V8.
They are at the cats.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:21 AM   #14
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I guess that seems fair, not a mechanic but are they easy to install? I have some tools, anything special I would need, any welding or are they a direct bolt on. I am assuming direct bolt on
I would suggest getting it welded... Nothing is going to be more annoying than an exhaust leak.
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I would suggest getting it welded... Nothing is going to be more annoying than an exhaust leak.
Have to be careful... I've see guy weld everything up and then have problem when it time to do things like take the tranny out... oops...
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Yeah, do not weld. You can get this plenty tight with no leaks. These should really be nice give a mid $300 price. I smell a Christmas present.

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Have to be careful... I've see guy weld everything up and then have problem when it time to do things like take the tranny out... oops...
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Looks like 3 finishes

Plain Stainless Steel Finish 1816S

Silver Ceramic Coated Stainless Steel * 1816SJS

Titanium Ceramic Coated Stainless Steel * 1816SJT

Header Features::
3/8" thick laser-cut flanges
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JBA sealing rings on head flange
Premium quality hardware included
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Will not void factory warranty
Optional ceramic coating (thermal barrier)
50 state smog legal*
*Currently under EO approval for California

it says "will not void factory warranty" can anyone confirm this?
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it says "will not void factory warranty" can anyone confirm this?
nothing VOIDS your ENTIRE warranty... The dealership can only deny warranty claims on the parts they can prove are affected by your after market parts... But some dealerships will give you the run around and try to bully you... Know your rights:

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Old 10-15-2009, 12:46 PM   #19
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it says "will not void factory warranty" can anyone confirm this?
That's because they anticipate getting an E.O number. When you have an EO or meat the requirements of the EPA's "tampering" Memorandum, your part is now a "legal replacement part". It therefore fall under the Moss-Magnuson Act and SEMA and the manufacturer can step in to help you in a warranty situation.
JBA has been doing e.o.'d headers for years and I don't doubt they will get certified.
Note: If you replace or move that cats then all that is out the window. You cannot replace a cat unless it is defective. And if you replace it, it has to be with the exact same spec or a certified part. It has to be stamped and in the manufacturers catalog as a replacement for that car.

That said, I don't think you would pick up anything by changing the cats. They are pretty free flowing. Over on the CTS side there was virtually no increase.

Regarding exhaust leaks. Best tip I ever got. Use ARP Stainless bolts. They will not heat cycle and work loose. That's why people say torque them then runn for awahile and re-torque. The steel bolt expands and contracts. Since I started using these I've not had one gasket failure or loose bolt.
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Good tip ! Thanks

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That's because they anticipate getting an E.O number. When you have an EO or meat the requirements of the EPA's "tampering" Memorandum, your part is now a "legal replacement part". It therefore fall under the Moss-Magnuson Act and SEMA and the manufacturer can step in to help you in a warranty situation.
JBA has been doing e.o.'d headers for years and I don't doubt they will get certified.
Note: If you replace or move that cats then all that is out the window. You cannot replace a cat unless it is defective. And if you replace it, it has to be with the exact same spec or a certified part. It has to be stamped and in the manufacturers catalog as a replacement for that car.

That said, I don't think you would pick up anything by changing the cats. They are pretty free flowing. Over on the CTS side there was virtually no increase.

Regarding exhaust leaks. Best tip I ever got. Use ARP Stainless bolts. They will not heat cycle and work loose. That's why people say torque them then runn for awahile and re-torque. The steel bolt expands and contracts. Since I started using these I've not had one gasket failure or loose bolt.
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:04 PM   #21
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What up guys . My v6 is the one being use for to make the shorties and the exhaust system. I went yesterday for a sound test for the exhaust but it did not work out. I should be back at JBA probably in the next week or two for a second test and probably for the shorties too. Don't ask me any thing about them have not seen a thing everytime I go I just leave my car and then I just come back and pick up the car and then they call me back with in a week. I will keep you posted ones I see any results. One more thing my car is being use by Speed By Spectre Performance to make a cold air intake. I should be getting a call in the next to weeks for testing.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:43 PM   #22
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Hey guys, I got a shot of the JBA Axle back system for the LT V6 cars. Special thanks to Buitre for assisting us.
The next sound test should be the final one. We know how important sound is to the Camaro world.
This new V6 is amazing, the sound needs to be right! So check it out...


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Old 10-20-2009, 05:11 PM   #23
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Hey Greg, bought time you showed up,

You guys should do a 08-09 CTS shorty & cat-back too. I'll stop by and see you at SEMA.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:46 PM   #24
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Speaking of shorty's.. might as well let this cat out of the bag now...
New 2010 V6 Camaro Headers!
(The ones pictured above are PN 1920S - Magnum/Charger/Challenger 3.5L)

THESE ARE THE NEW JBA CAMARO HEADERS!
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Speaking of shorty's.. might as well let this cat out of the bag now...
New 2010 V6 Camaro Headers!
(The ones pictured above are PN 1920S - Magnum/Charger/Challenger 3.5L)

THESE ARE THE NEW JBA CAMARO HEADERS!
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