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Old 10-14-2009, 11:22 AM   #1
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Z28 Camaro vs. HPE Camaro

Here's one:

Do you all think the factory Z28 will put out anything close to the HPE Camaro? I for one think not, mainly because the factory will still not have the most efficient building blocks (e.g. intake, exhaust, headers, S/C, tune, etc).

What do you all think?




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um...which HPE Camaro?
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:23 AM   #3
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What suspension work does the HPE Camaro have on it? It's not all about max power numbers.
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um...which HPE Camaro?
LOL....yeah there is more than 1
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:38 AM   #5
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I like the HPE Camaro...however, I think the Z28 will be a better overall package and value from the factory. And I think many will be surprised at what we get.

The quoted HPE Camaro's performance numbers on their site were obtained with drag radials, however...so it's not fair to compare the two's performance, imo.
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:42 AM   #6
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Go with what the factory dishes out...covered by warranty no matter what, and will be tuned to be durable as opposed to what gains in HP can be made...no offense to HPE, but I'd prefer my upgrades from the factory if I can get them.
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I like the HPE Camaro...however, I think the Z28 will be a better overall package and value from the factory. And I think many will be surprised at what we get.

The quoted HPE Camaro's performance numbers on their site were obtained with drag radials, however...so it's not fair to compare the two's performance, imo.
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Which HPE model do you want it to compare to. There is a HPE 550, HPE 700, HPE 800, and the HPE 1000.
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Old 10-14-2009, 03:02 PM   #9
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I seriously doubt the blower(roots or TVS) on the factory Z28 will compare to the TVS blower on the HPE machines. Unless they do put an LS9 in the Z28.

I think it will be quite different actually in just about all aspects. The HPE machine is an aftermarket modded car, the Z28 will be a factory car...obviously.
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Here's one:

Do you all think the factory Z28 will put out anything close to the HPE Camaro? I for one think not, mainly because the factory will still not have the most efficient building blocks (e.g. intake, exhaust, headers, S/C, tune, etc).

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I have no idea because we have no idea what the Z/28 is going to be.... Or for sure if it is going to "be"
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Old 10-14-2009, 04:02 PM   #11
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Go with what the factory dishes out...covered by warranty no matter what, and will be tuned to be durable as opposed to what gains in HP can be made...no offense to HPE, but I'd prefer my upgrades from the factory if I can get them.
But, GM has a performance parts division right? So, you can actually upgrade alot of components with GM certified performance parts and it is all still fully warranted. So, even though the price is high, you can still get extra performance put into you cars, and it will still be covered under factory warranty, just as long as GM mechanics also install it.

I guess what I am getting at is, are the GM performance parts anything comparable to what you could get at another aftermarket parts house? If so, could that not be a way for people to get their gains, and not affect their factory warranty?
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:28 AM   #12
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GM's been talking on and off about a Z28 for a while, but they've also been talking about offering high-end interiors and creature comforts to rival some nicer European imports. What I'm wondering is, will those be one and the same? Could the Z28 be both the higher-performance version of the Camaro AND the luxury version? If so, I would expect that for whatever price GM offers it, it'll have less performance than one of the HPE Camaros.
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I very seriously doubt that the Z28 comes with around 615 HP that the HPE550 puts out at the crank. The HPE550 will probably be the better car, but you never know what could happen.
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I really think the Z/28 will have a special appearance package, full suspension package, and GMPP intake, exhaust, tune from the factory. I don't see GM making a super high performance package. They will have to deal with the guzzler tax if they raise the horsepower too much.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:22 PM   #15
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The Hennesy should be a better drag car, the Z28 should handle better and come with a 100,000 mile power train warranty.
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I like the HPE Camaro...however, I think the Z28 will be a better overall package and value from the factory. And I think many will be surprised at what we get.

The quoted HPE Camaro's performance numbers on their site were obtained with drag radials, however...so it's not fair to compare the two's performance, imo.
But does the Hennessy car come with DR's or is that an extra/DIY item? If thats how the car comes, thats how it comes.
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GM's been talking on and off about a Z28 for a while, but they've also been talking about offering high-end interiors and creature comforts to rival some nicer European imports. What I'm wondering is, will those be one and the same? Could the Z28 be both the higher-performance version of the Camaro AND the luxury version? If so, I would expect that for whatever price GM offers it, it'll have less performance than one of the HPE Camaros.
No, if you want a import beating supercharged luxury vehicle from GM there's the CTS-V
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:38 PM   #16
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The Hennesy should be a better drag car, the Z28 should handle better and come with a 100,000 mile power train warranty.
But does the Hennessy car come with DR's or is that an extra/DIY item? If thats how the car comes, thats how it comes.

No, if you want a import beating supercharged luxury vehicle from GM there's the CTS-V
The Mail Order package doesn't come with the radials, but is an option to add on. However, the Hennessey they ran in the 1/4 miles do have radials on them.
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I'd take the factory one as well in this case, but its hard to make an official judgement since we don't know the specs on it yet...
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I'd take the factory one as well in this case, but its hard to make an official judgement since we don't know the specs on it yet...
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i think we can nearly gaurantee it'll be the cts-v engine
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They will have to deal with the guzzler tax if they raise the horsepower too much.
Interesting . . . we've all heard reports about the LSA going into the Z/28 which has a gas guzzler tax on the CTS-V. I personally don't think it's possible to avoid it on the Z/28 with 500+hp which is the only way to get competitive with the GT500.
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I'll take the Z28 any day... especially if it comes with a 100,000 mile power train warranty.
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the only way to get competitive with the GT500.
Hmmm when did It get announced that the Z/28 is going to compete with the GT500.
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I guess what I am getting at is, are the GM performance parts anything comparable to what you could get at another aftermarket parts house? If so, could that not be a way for people to get their gains, and not affect their factory warranty?
While GM has the performance parts department, you will gain performance out of those parts and not void the warranty if done by Chevrolet employees like you stated.
But, those same performance parts have nothing on true aftermarket performance parts that you can get for your Camaro, i.e., Stainless Works, ADM and so forth.
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I'd take the factory one as well in this case, but its hard to make an official judgement since we don't know the specs on it yet...
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i think we can nearly gaurantee it'll be the cts-v engine
But that doesn't mean we'll know the specs. The Corvette, Camaro, and G8 GXP all gave the LS3 but it makes 436 hp in the Vette, 426 in the Camaro, and 415 in the G8. Same thing could happen with the LSA.
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