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Old 10-14-2009, 05:11 PM   #26
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Strange that they'd go to the effort (for performance sake) to insulate the box, then run a metal tube through the hot engine bay. Seems a conflict of interest between looks of metal and performance of plastic/insulation.
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The CAI system goes above and beyond on the perfomance side of Intake systems - it builds its system around the coldest air possible going into your engine = creating more HP thus better performance! The custom air tight box keeps the hot air out allowing only the ambient air to flow into the system. The CAI intake tube is not the "normal" tube because they take the metal tube and ceramic coated to keep the air at ambient temperature. Thus this is why I found CAI to be the benchmark of intake systems vs everyone else. I love my system on my 08 Duramax and will get one when I order my camaro!

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Strange that they'd go to the effort (for performance sake) to insulate the box, then run a metal tube through the hot engine bay. Seems a conflict of interest between looks of metal and performance of plastic/insulation.
I would think a ceramic coated aluminum tube would do a great job of staying cooler than plastic.

And yes it is designed to work with our cowl induction and L88 style hoods. The MPD version will be offered with the correct hood to airbox seal.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:43 PM   #28
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I don't have any. Talk to James! I do know that the other intakes they've made for their other non-camaro customers have got some great gains. I would expect this to be in line with pretty much all the others out there.. probably 12-20hp w/o a tune, maybe a little more w/ tune. It's pretty dang awesome looking to boot! :-)
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:49 PM   #29
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Strange that they'd go to the effort (for performance sake) to insulate the box, then run a metal tube through the hot engine bay. Seems a conflict of interest between looks of metal and performance of plastic/insulation.
This is FAR from a just a metal tube.
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:58 PM   #30
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This is FAR from a just a metal tube.
True dat. I believe in my OP I also noted the fact that it's ceramic on the inside. Do people stop reading the posts if you type more than a paragraph? I know we're car people here, but c'mon.. haha.
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:28 PM   #31
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Longhorn SS,

The CAI system goes above and beyond on the perfomance side of Intake systems - it builds its system around the coldest air possible going into your engine = creating more HP thus better performance! The custom air tight box keeps the hot air out allowing only the ambient air to flow into the system. The CAI intake tube is not the "normal" tube because they take the metal tube and ceramic coated to keep the air at ambient temperature. Thus this is why I found CAI to be the benchmark of intake systems vs everyone else. I love my system on my 08 Duramax and will get one when I order my camaro!

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This entire design looks familiar....!

Hardware, Coatings and everything.....I think it looks great! Seems we have found some common ground.

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Old 10-14-2009, 06:38 PM   #32
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..hehehehe..I was waiting for this (evil grin)
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Old 10-14-2009, 06:41 PM   #33
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..hehehehe..I was waiting for this (evil grin)
GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE......

I personally feel they are on to something and a long line of ADM purchasers AGREE!
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:12 PM   #34
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" is attributed to Charles Caleb Colton

This entire design looks familiar....!

Hardware, Coatings and everything.....I think it looks great! Seems we have found some common ground.

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Imitation?!? Coatings & Hardware & Everything is the same as yours? LOL! CAI and your product are vastly different. Just looking at your product you have two couplers with a pipe to make your intake tube which yours is only POWDER COATED vs CAI - one aluminum bent tube that is CERAMIC COATED! You have stainless steel screws vs CAI uses stainless quarter turn fasteners. You guys screw your box together
where as CAI bends and welds their box together. CAI INSULATES their box vs your box is NOT INSULATED. Jim created CAI and the design of CAI intake systems back in 2004. So it has been around for quiet some time. I'm just a satisfied CAI customer - I'd love to hear what Jim & CAI have to say about this......
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:36 PM   #35
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Well it seems the Imitation is on the other foot.

Certainly wasn't a stab as you have obviously interpreted. It was obviously seen as a benefit by both Jim and Andy to fabricate something to seal away from the engine compartment as much as practicable !
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:11 PM   #36
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AHHH! Didn't realize there was a ceramic coating. Very well done! My apologies.
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" is attributed to Charles Caleb Colton

This entire design looks familiar....!

Hardware, Coatings and everything.....I think it looks great! Seems we have found some common ground.

LOL!!!!!!


I see someone is getting nervous. I see someones prices drops and intake design changes coming. lol Im going to stop there because James told me not to get involved.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:35 PM   #38
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Some interesting ideas there. Not sure of the cost to benefit ratio though. Some dyno number would be nice. All kits of this style (bent metal tube) will suffer from the fact that you cannot get a nice radius to the TB. Air doesn't turn 90° without turbulence.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:24 AM   #39
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:18 AM   #41
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ADM race has the washer bottle removed and a short ram type of tube going to the lower grille, and the MAF sensor located in the box, i don't think they are the same.

both are very nice
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I see someone is getting nervous. I see someones prices drops and intake design changes coming. lol Im going to stop there because James told me not to get involved.
LOL I doubt it, but competition is good for the consumer!

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Old 10-15-2009, 10:27 AM   #43
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Best looking CAI I've seen so far and add to that the fact it is insulated? Awesome
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Interesting..... ADM has been my 1st choice, but............ I guess this Sunday's comparo is looking better and BETTER.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:57 AM   #46
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I'll admit that their product looks pretty nice, but their website sure leaves something to be desired. Most of the hyperlinks are non-functional, and there seems to be listed very few supported products. For being in business for 5 years making CAIs, they sure don't offer much...at least not on their website.
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:02 PM   #47
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I see someone is getting nervous. I see someones prices drops and intake design changes coming. lol Im going to stop there because James told me not to get involved.
Not at all.

I tend not to post in CAI product threads generally because I do not like what they are offereing. I saw some similar things in this product and I liked what I saw. ADM has perfected the high flow air box design over time. I can assure you we will not be using anything from what we have seen. Our product is what it is and we and many other performance shops have proven it's worth time and time again.

AGAIN KUDOS to CAI!

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Old 10-15-2009, 12:12 PM   #48
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WOW! I love it! but will it get a CARB OE number... I need for CA.
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I'll admit that their product looks pretty nice, but their website sure leaves something to be desired. Most of the hyperlinks are non-functional, and there seems to be listed very few supported products. For being in business for 5 years making CAIs, they sure don't offer much...at least not on their website.
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I'll get one in person and tell you what I think. Website callout...come on? You wanna pay more for the product so you can have a feeling your have a time share investment in their company or something? Plenty of high prices companies out there already charging a small fortune to mod these cars. You want them to have a reason to become one too? Gheez guys! They sure took some time to R&D this thing. Money well spent in the right places indeed. I'm waiting for our dealer acct. to get setup. Adding another company to our list of quality manufacturers. Come on Cold Air Inductions!
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