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Old 10-29-2009, 06:22 PM   #51
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cool.. so no one knows limit of stock clutch?
I have 580 Flywheel HP, and my clutch is not going to last much longer. It is already spinnign too often for my liking.

Fidanza is the kit I will be using, they will handle these supercharger kits with no issues.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:15 PM   #52
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I wanna' see a carbon fiber SC
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:31 PM   #53
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Oh yeahhh.. More exclusive 2010 Camaro 2.9L Whipple info only from Lethal Performance.

Here's a photo of the 2.9L prototype installed followed by an image of the massive heat exchanger that they'll be using.


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Old 10-30-2009, 11:07 AM   #54
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Here's a video of the 100% stock camaro with the a hand build test unit for development. This is not a production unit, as the production unit is the front entry compressor. But this is the same manifold, IC, SC rotors, stock TB, stock filter assembly (K&N element), stock exhaust.....
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:09 PM   #55
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HOLLY SH*T that sounds cool! I can't wait for some production numbers
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:24 PM   #57
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Here's a video of the 100% stock camaro with the a hand build test unit for development. This is not a production unit, as the production unit is the front entry compressor. But this is the same manifold, IC, SC rotors, stock TB, stock filter assembly (K&N element), stock exhaust.....


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Old 10-30-2009, 12:25 PM   #58
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Here's a video of the 100% stock camaro with the a hand build test unit for development. This is not a production unit, as the production unit is the front entry compressor. But this is the same manifold, IC, SC rotors, stock TB, stock filter assembly (K&N element), stock exhaust.....
Im getting excited! Hows the hood clearance looking?
Also, whats the location differences of the center of the throttle body vs stock? Help know what CAIs might have the ability of mating up (something ProE should be easy to provide).
What are you doing for fuel enrichment on the Camaro?
Thanks Whipple and Lethal for allowing us to share in the R&D Excitement

P.S. Boy, look at the height of this thing. Perhaps its just the angle, but It sure makes me think....
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:26 PM   #59
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Im getting excited! Hows the hood clearance looking?
Also, whats the location differences of the center of the throttle body vs stock? Help know what CAIs might have the ability of mating up (something ProE should be easy to provide).
What are you doing for fuel enrichment on the Camaro?
Thanks Whipple and Lethal for allowing us to share in the R&D Excitement

P.S. Boy, look at the height of this thing. Perhaps its just the angle, but It sure makes me think....
Mad Max Camaro, the last of the big V8s!

I would have to get those measurments, trying to get off to get to Vegas for SEMA. Everything fits under the hood, no issues. TB is slightly forward from stock, almost identical to Magnusson's so those CAI systems will work with little to no changes.

Currently has 63lb/hr fuel injectors and MSD pump booster with custom settings (new version with programmable volt table).
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:27 PM   #60
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Im getting excited! Hows the hood clearance looking?
Also, whats the location differences of the center of the throttle body vs stock? Help know what CAIs might have the ability of mating up (something ProE should be easy to provide).
What are you doing for fuel enrichment on the Camaro?
Thanks Whipple and Lethal for allowing us to share in the R&D Excitement

P.S. Boy, look at the height of this thing. Perhaps its just the angle, but It sure makes me think....
Mad Max Camaro, the last of the big V8s!
This pulley clears the hood by .25", just enough. The standard kit has .75".

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Old 10-31-2009, 12:46 PM   #61
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Is this heat exchanger the final product?
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Old 11-01-2009, 05:46 PM   #62
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given an identical vehicle setup, which would make more hp and tq, the maggie or the whipple? how about the dyno specs? which one hits sooner? I'm trying to narrow my choices down between he two?
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given an identical vehicle setup, which would make more hp and tq, the maggie or the whipple? how about the dyno specs? which one hits sooner? I'm trying to narrow my choices down between he two?
at higher boost levels the whipple will beat it out.. the whipple is 2.9L and correct me if i'm wrong the maggie is 2.3L
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:16 AM   #64
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[QUOTE=GQ4Life;1121848]at higher boost levels the whipple will beat it out.. the whipple is 2.9L and correct me if i'm wrong the maggie is 2.3L[/QUOTE

You're correct. But, you have to ask yourself how much power do you need. TVS 2300 is capable of making more power than most would want. Obviously, the bigger Whipple could make more. The TVS2300 on my vette makes 672 at the wheels. More than enough for me.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:14 AM   #65
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Just an observation Ive made , both SS auto's and both dynojets......

478 RWHP , a local guy
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:00 AM   #66
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someone is going to have to get nifty and make the fuel rail covers work. That just looks bad with all the tubes and wires everywhere.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:11 AM   #67
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Just an observation Ive made , both SS auto's and both dynojets......

478 RWHP , a local guy
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My 672 was done with 8.5psi on 93 octane. It included blower cam and bolt ons though. It's pretty hard to compare different blowers on different cars.
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Dynojet's are pretty consistent from one to the other .

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your car just sounds crazy with 672 rwhp in a vette !
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:38 AM   #69
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at higher boost levels the whipple will beat it out.. the whipple is 2.9L and correct me if i'm wrong the maggie is 2.3L
Sorry but you're wrong. The beauty of a larger SC is more power at the same boost.

If you swapped out the Whipple 2.9L for their 3.4L you would see about a +25whp difference at 8psi. This is why I'm going big, I want to keep the boost as low as I can and still make BIG power.
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Sorry but you're wrong. The beauty of a larger SC is more power at the same boost.

If you swapped out the Whipple 2.9L for their 3.4L you would see about a +25whp difference at 8psi. This is why I'm going big, I want to keep the boost as low as I can and still make BIG power.
Not argueing your point, just wondering why that would be. I would think both chargers would be pretty effecient at low boost levels. I know the smaller charger would run into heat problems at higher boost levels, but both chargers being discussed are capable of way more. Seems like the bigger one would take more power to turn
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Sorry but you're wrong. The beauty of a larger SC is more power at the same boost.

If you swapped out the Whipple 2.9L for their 3.4L you would see about a +25whp difference at 8psi. This is why I'm going big, I want to keep the boost as low as I can and still make BIG power.
verry true, but at low boost levels there's not much of a difference, the smaller s/c will typicaly show more tq. even whipple claims the 2.3 tvs will show more power at lower boost levels. but as u can already see 8 psi the 2.9 whipple is already taking over, as its matching / beating the tvs 2.3 with full bolt ons, and the whipple'd car is bone stock.
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i'm hoping for 650wHP with mild cam.. try and get flat hp curve not dyno queen
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:42 AM   #73
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Sorry but you're wrong. The beauty of a larger SC is more power at the same boost.

If you swapped out the Whipple 2.9L for their 3.4L you would see about a +25whp difference at 8psi. This is why I'm going big, I want to keep the boost as low as I can and still make BIG power.
not exactly bro.. my cobra was faster at 19lbs w/ whipple 2.3 vs the whipple 3.4 at 19lbs. the 3.4 was sluggish at that level very sluggish!!! it didnt shine til 20+++ ibs which thats what it was made for and it really turned up. a smaller blower at lower boost levels 8 or less will respond and be faster than a larger blower sorry... but im comparing whipple vs whipple im unsure comparing maggie to whipple..
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but I think by 12psi the 2.9 whipple will out shine the 2.3 maggie.. what everybody think?
sorry i'm kind of biased toward whipple..

question does the whipple have another belt in back or is that gears?
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:47 AM   #75
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but I think by 12psi the 2.9 whipple will out shine the 2.3 maggie.. what everybody think?
sorry i'm kind of biased toward whipple..

question does the whipple have another belt in back or is that gears?

o yea id take the whipple over the maggie any day!!!!

but you better get bottom end built for 12 lbs bro!!
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