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Old 10-20-2009, 03:17 PM   #1
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SNEAK PEAK! 2010 camaro RS V6 gains 33HP and torque with install of BBK headers!

SNEAK PEEK!
I blogged about a video that was slipped to me by my friend at BBK Performance yesterday about their crazy horsepower gains on a V6 2010 Camaro RS simply by tossing out the tiny stock headers and installing their new headers and high flow Cats. 33HP at the wheels and 30 foot pounds of torque gained! The video shows the car on the dyno and the results graphs. That is a lot of horsepower with just less than an hour's worth of work!

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Old 10-20-2009, 03:26 PM   #2
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SNEAK PEEK!
I blogged about a video that was slipped to me by my friend at BBK Performance yesterday about their crazy horsepower gains on a V6 2010 Camaro RS simply by tossing out the tiny stock headers and installing their new headers and high flow Cats. 33HP at the wheels and 30 foot pounds of torque gained! The video shows the car on the dyno and the results graphs. That is a lot of horsepower with just less than an hour's worth of work!

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Excellent! Thanks for the video. Might want to move it over to the v6 section, though.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:36 PM   #3
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they're also illegal in most states.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:54 PM   #4
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:08 PM   #5
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Very interesting.... couple things come to mind...

How will the the high flow cats sound with an aftermarket exhaust?

Will you end up throwing codes?

Definitely keeping an eye on these..
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:46 PM   #6
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they're also illegal in most states.
Which states are they legal in?
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Which states are they legal in?
My guess is any state that has adopted the CARB emissions restrictions would not allow these. I believe that is 14 states so far.
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CEL code??

I'm guessing it threw a code. Please confirm/deny. Thanks
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:19 PM   #9
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SNEAK PEEK!
I blogged about a video that was slipped to me by my friend at BBK Performance yesterday about their crazy horsepower gains on a V6 2010 Camaro RS simply by tossing out the tiny stock headers and installing their new headers and high flow Cats. 33HP at the wheels and 30 foot pounds of torque gained! The video shows the car on the dyno and the results graphs. That is a lot of horsepower with just less than an hour's worth of work!

you can read my blog (and watch the video) here:

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What? BBK is Brothers Performance. Same owners.

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Which states are they legal in?
None. According to the EPA and the Federal Clean Air Act it is illegal to remove or relocate the cats.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/factshts/catcvrts.pdf
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:22 PM   #10
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CEL code??

I'm guessing it threw a code. Please confirm/deny. Thanks
A lot of times when you add long tubes, move the cats, replace the cats you'll trigger a Check Engine Light... Easiest thing is to get a tune which turns off the rear o2 sensors...
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:24 PM   #11
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Otherwise known as "off road".

Not that we support anything illegal...

But, If you don't have emissions laws in your state you can probably get away with this mod.

FWIW.
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:25 PM   #12
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CEL code??

I'm guessing it threw a code. Please confirm/deny. Thanks
For what looks like about 10-20% more torque through most of that graph, I think I can live with that light, lol. Hope this isn't too good to be true (and they're not outrageously expensive, and don't make my car sound like a riceburner).
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:54 PM   #13
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None. According to the EPA and the Federal Clean Air Act it is illegal to remove or relocate the cats.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/factshts/catcvrts.pdf
This is why I'll stick with the shorty headers when they become available. From what I can see, the v-6 cats are the same ones used on the LS3.

If they flow good enough for the v-8, it's good enough for me.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:05 PM   #14
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You're right there. On the CTS's they've seen very little power increase from cats or cat-back changes. Other than sound.
Stock flows good.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:07 PM   #15
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Awesome gains, now where can I find a video where I can hear how it sounds? LOL!
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:26 PM   #16
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I've double-checked with my buddy at BBK, and he said that it did NOT throw a single code (check engine light) with these headers installed in the four days of testing.


I'll ask if he has can put together a quick video of the car on the dyno with the headers on it for me.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:43 PM   #17
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i would like to hear some idle back and rev ups with the stock exhaust, if that would be at all possible.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:49 PM   #18
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nice gains and with no tune? are they complaint for new york emmisions
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nice gains and with no tune? are they complaint for new york emmisions
These will fail anywhere that does a visual inspection. As will all long tube headers.
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:40 PM   #20
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Very nice numbers need a test car in Florida
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These will fail anywhere that does a visual inspection. As will all long tube headers.
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You could aways go with shorties instead.
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:58 PM   #23
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Won't the torque management kick in pretty much negating whatever gains you might get???
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:07 PM   #24
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they're also illegal in most states.
Always people trying to pee in peoples cheerios.

Ive had camaros with long tubes since 99 and as long as it passes the sniffer you wont have a problem, unless you live in California...which if Lex Luther would of had his way would be a much cooler place to live.

Seriously some of you guys are so quick to throw out the "that will void yer warranty" and "you wont pass emissions" epidemic without researching anything.

I mean if your going 57 in a 55 your speeding right? Better not do it. Its illegal.
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Always people trying to pee in peoples cheerios.

Ive had camaros with long tubes since 99 and as long as it passes the sniffer you wont have a problem, unless you live in California...which if Lex Luther would of had his way would be a much cooler place to live.

Seriously some of you guys are so quick to throw out the "that will void yer warranty" and "you wont pass emissions" epidemic without researching anything.

I mean if your going 57 in a 55 your speeding right? Better not do it. Its illegal.
Heh.

Many states you can get by with it, yes. Here in Oklahoma we have no emissions testing. No visual - no sniffer - no scan. Nothing.
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