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Old 10-20-2009, 06:43 PM   #1
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Lexus LF-A: Yay or Nay?

Here's the spec sheet thus far (courtesy of autoblog):
  • 4.8-liter 72-degree V10 putting out 560 ps (552 hp) at 8,700 RPM (that's 115 hp/liter) and 354 lb.-ft. of torque at 6,800 RPM
  • Redline: 9,000 RPM
  • Titanium valves, connecting rods, forged aluminum pistons, dry sump lubrication and a titanium exhaust manifold
  • Six-speed sequential gearbox
  • Torsen limited slip differential
  • 3,263 pounds with a 48/52 front-to-rear weight distribution
  • Power-to-weight ratio of 5.9 pounds/hp
  • 65 percent of the body is carbon fiber
  • 20-inch BBS wheels wrapped in 265/35 ZR20 Bridgestone tires in front and 305/30 ZR20 in the rear.
  • 0-62 MPH (100 km/h) in 3.7 seconds
  • Top speed of 201.94 MPH
  • Production limited to 500 units
  • $375,000


Style wise, its the most interesting design out of Toyota in a while (though that isn't saying much). I also think they should have gone with a larger engine. Too small of a torque peak at too high of an rpm. That will definitely hurt its midrange acceleration, heck it hurts its low end acceleration too. 10% more power than a Z06 and no faster to 60 mph.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:44 PM   #2
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how much $$$$ ??
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how much $$$$ ??
estimates put it at around $200,000
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how much is a well-equipped Z06?
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:50 PM   #5
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:52 PM   #6
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how much is a well-equipped Z06?
No such thing as a 'well equipped' Corvette ... but a loaded Z06 is $87,435 including destination. That price also includes chrome wheels, 2 vehicle covers, and 1 set of pedal covers, among other more useful items.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:53 PM   #7
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Looks like the offspring of a 370Z and a GTR...... Not my cup of tea

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well then it seems that i would get the Z06 and use the extra $$$ to pump it full of mods

plus i like the style of the Corvette better, although that lexus isn't bad, but i am partial to the Vettes...
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:58 PM   #9
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I like it. If I had to buy a foreign car it would be a Lexus and this would be it.


Ok............ the price tag is a bit out of my range............... Ok......... a LOT out of my range but it looks great and I have no doubt it would perform great. Bonnies IS350 impressed the hell out of me.
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"560 hp at 8,700 RPM (that's 116.5 hp/liter) and 354 lb.-ft. of torque at 6,800 RPM"

the only thing i would want making peak power at those rpm's would be a motorcycle.
No thank you, in that price range I would take a ZR1 'vette. Or something better looking like a V8 Vantage
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ZR1. Better performance. Save some money too.
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I like it.

but too much money for not enough performance.
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Its a hot looking car IMO, just not worth that price tag to me.
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Please compare each pro with each corresponding con.

It might be okay for these reasons:
• It's the most attractive thing to come out of Toyota since the Supra.
• It's a good car because it potentially competes with the recently released GT-R, a hyped import in a price bracket that compels it to run with other great cars.
• It's new so it has that new car smell.
• Carbon fiber is awesome, and this car has lots of carbon fiber.
• It's exclusive due to low production.
• It goes 0-62 in 3.7 seconds.
• It has 10 cylinders.

It probably sucks for these reasons:
• I never really thought the Supra was the most attractive car. Pointing out that this car is as attractive as a Supra is kind of like arguing about the most attractive, fastest, tumor-infested 3-legged dog. It won't be pretty, it won't be fast, and it certainly won't live very long. I think that this car will fit into this mold because Toyota has lost its way in the field of performance, and history doesn't speak all that highly of Toyota's OEM performance.
• I don't like the GT-R either. I actually think that both this car and the GT-R are examples of excessive hype. They aren't on the level of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Koenigsegg, or the Corvette ZR1. There are better cars for the money.
• This car will have significant flaws. It represents a new model, platform, and engine. All of these features will need serious improvement in order to match the reliability of the competition. That new car smell, by the way, will come with the potent sweat of outsourced labor, which will not support the US economy. In fact, I expect that the laborers that do build this car are underpaid and work in a country with limited government oversight of abusive employment, child labor, and worker rights.
• Does it seem to anyone else obese for a car that is so heavily clad in carbon fiber? Besides, having lots of an awesome component does not mean, by default, that this car is awesome.
• It's exclusive because it costs way more than it is worth, it isn't that attractive, and it is only produced in small numbers—small numbers that reflect the number of people in the world both rich enough and stupid enough to buy an overpriced piece of sculpted Japanese garbage.
• I don't have a problem with it being fast. I just want to know why they measured up to 62 instead of 60. What is wrong with them? If you're going to sell in America, then advertise to Americans.
• Those 10 cylinders only displace 4.8L. I think Toyota managed to build something that with more cylinders than a muscle car will still manage to sound like an angry bee hive.

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ZR1. Better performance. Save some money too.
Exactly my feeling.

NOT a bad looking car though. At least from that angle. I still need to see what's doin' in the ba-donk.
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Yay or Nay?
Absolute Crap.

Who'd they steal the engine patent from?
Will the find a way to rot Carbon fiber frames, too?

All joking aside, I think it looks awful from that rendering. Worse than the gt-r, and I hate the looks of that car with a passion.

Few things that stick out to me. I have far too little time to dwell on this suck-mobile in detail:

-How in the hell does a two-seater (assumedly) with a 65% Carbon Fiber body still weigh over 3000 lbs?
-That high-revving engine will be about as reliable as a 20-year old rotary, and it lacks HUNDREDS of lbs of torque to be serious, imo.
-What drunk executive decided to price it that high? ("LF-A, I'd like you to meet ZR1...he's half your price, and can kick your a$$ back across the pacific....twice.")

Perhaps it's just not my cup 'o tea....and perhaps I'm being a little harsh -- but please...what a joke.
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love the looks, pitty I have to hate it because it's a toyota.
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Motortrend puts the price estimates at 400k...............

this car, while it may be good, will not be worth the money. i dont see anybody with common sense buying this car.
that is unless they want a rare 1 of 500 car.

and coolman dont be a badge whore it works both ways. dont let a badge dictate whether you like a car or not
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Where are the floormats?

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Blur, thanks for that clear-cut +/-
Dragoneye, you aren't being too harsh. That would have required some sort of comment about floor mats. Like this:
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Motortrend puts the price estimates at 400k...............

this car, while it may be good, will not be worth the money. i dont see anybody with common sense buying this car.
that is unless they want a rare 1 of 500 car.

and coolman dont be a badge whore it works both ways. dont let a badge dictate whether you like a car or not
$400,000? Wow, that must make it twice as good. Thats why Ferrari's are the best right?

Seriously though, how many cars over $50,000 can be rationalized via common sense?
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:52 PM   #23
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Dragoneye, you aren't being too harsh. That would have required some sort of comment about floor mats. Like this:

stuck on the gas pedal. helps it accelerate
Thanks...good to have some positive reinforcement.

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$400,000? Wow, that must make it twice as good. Thats why Ferrari's are the best right?
You know....I've been thinking about this more than I wanted to...

Lexus (Toyota) may simply be trying to built that unreachable halo car that puts them on the map...And makes everything else underneath it look good...ala Bugatti Veyron. However...IF that was the goal, they failed miserably in the performance dept. This car is not exciting, it promises performance of last year with a design from another dimension, at a price of the moon....

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Seriously though, how many cars over $50,000 can be rationalized via common sense?
I can think of only 4 off the top of my head: CTS-V, Z06, ZR1, R8. Each because they excell in their respective categories, are incredibly appealing, and are a relative bargain, $$-wise.
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Blur, thanks for that clear-cut +/-
Dragoneye, you aren't being too harsh. That would have required some sort of comment about floor mats. Like this:

stuck on the gas pedal. helps it accelerate


$400,000? Wow, that must make it twice as good. Thats why Ferrari's are the best right?

Seriously though, how many cars over $50,000 can be rationalized via common sense?
i would change that 50,000 to 100,000. IMO any car under 50k can have Either a great luxurious interior, Great super car like performance, or some combination of the two. once you get above 50k you get more of both worlds in some sort of combination.

incase that doesnt make sense i have NO problem buying a 100k dollar car. but once you get above that general area your paying for exclusivity
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Its certainly the best looking Toyota in the last 14 years but that ain't saying much. Based on it's speculated times I am guessing a Corvette GS might be damn near capable of running with it... but the Z06 will definitely run with it, and possibly beat it. YET this is still $100K more than a ZR1.

Bottom line is that this should have been a Toyota.. priced out at about $65-80K to compete directly with the Z06 and GT-R. Bottom line is that I would still like to see Cadillac get an ACTUAL CIEN with ZR1 internals to kill Lexus's buzz
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