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Old 09-26-2011, 11:18 AM   #6240
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I hate everything about CARB
I don't think that CARB is all evil, especially if one recalls how bad the smog was in the L.A. basin in the 1960s. The air quality is much better today, in part, because of CARB's regulation.

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I don't have a problem with CARB in this situation because if Ford tried to get around them by offering this key, that's just crap, because everyone else has to follow the rules ...
Exactly. Ford was well aware of the CARB rules and regulations when they developed the Boss 302. Ford should have tuned the vehicle so that an add on key was not required.

Chalk one up for the ZL1.
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:33 AM   #6241
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I didn't even know some splitters were illegal. That would only be for aerodynamic function, right?

We have way-the-HECK too many rules to follow these days. Before you know it we'll only be allowed to walk & they will levy a sidewalk tax on shoes.


Why is the splitter illegal, Radz?

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I read that LS splitter is illegal. I'm not sure exactly why, but I remember reading that disclaimer somewhere; probably at Ford's website or one of those feature exhibits you see when they display the car. Maybe it's how low it hangs, or how far it jutts out

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I don't think that CARB is all evil, especially if one recalls how bad the smog was in the L.A. basin in the 1960s. The air quality is much better today, in part, because of CARB's regulation.


Exactly. Ford was well aware of the CARB rules and regulations when they developed the Boss 302. Ford should have tuned the vehicle so that an add on key was not required.

Chalk one up for the ZL1.
I believe this is true. However, they go over-board, I think. While I can appreciate needing clean air, some of the things they do just drive me crazy. Maybe I can't see the big picture or maybe there's something I'm not considering, but I just don't trust them to tell me what's okay. I mean, I can't run a CAI, with all functioning evap' equipment because it just doesn't have one of their exemption numbers, even though I haven't fundamentally changed any part of the system (I literally just went through something like this). It's just crazy. I'm on the fence with long tubes and cats', but I can see that point a little bit.

There are other parts of our regulating agencies, too, that just pizz me off. I can't buy a polish chromed Desert Eagle .44 just because it hasn't been approved, even though I CAN get a brushed chrome Desert Eagle .44. I can get a .500 SW Mag' but can't get a .50AE Desert Eagle. It's just so random. More of CARB's regulations make a little more sense, but I feel like I gotta' ask them to take a leak.

Sorry I got off track, lol

EXACTLY!!! For the what, 4 more horsepower, that key releases, it doesn't seem that worth it. They should modify the tune so the motor tune doesn't change, but the rest of the changes take place, IMO. I knew I soon as I learned the key makes the car lope more that CARB would say something about it. If the car lopes more because they're changing cam timing, that means emissions changes, and gets dirtier because I'm sure that duration and LSA have moved a lot more aggressive. I am surprised it's only 4 horse'...
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:43 AM   #6242
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:49 AM   #6243
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:51 PM   #6244
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Can somebody post a link for the article? I'm at work on my iPhone.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:58 PM   #6245
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There are lots of articles on it right now but here is one for ya!

http://jalopnik.com/5842502/californ...ustang-trackey
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:01 PM   #6246
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It's one of those very weird situations where I'm both laughing hysterically at this gimmick's failure...and extremely pissed that CARB is meddling in our hobby, again.
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:16 PM   #6247
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:46 PM   #6248
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There are lots of articles on it right now but here is one for ya!

http://jalopnik.com/5842502/californ...ustang-trackey

Thanks, much appreciated
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:50 PM   #6249
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:59 PM   #6250
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:53 AM   #6251
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:31 AM   #6252
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:46 AM   #6253
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Umm... I'd take that color with a little less red in a heartbeat!!! OMG!!! Forget it. I'd take that color, LOL!!! I have to clean up the drool from my keyboard now.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:39 PM   #6254
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THAT'S the color purple I want! Now, I am sure it would never get made, because it would sell even less than ABM, but good God THAT IS NICE.
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:30 PM   #6255
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Just got back from a visit to the GM Design Center. All I can say is wow. Maybe I should say WOW!

GM is on a hot streak that I don't see ending anytime soon. I am restricted in what I can say, but I don't think saying every time I visit GM I leave impressed by the commitment of the people. The cars are great, but it's the people with passion for GM that create the cars. I know GM isn't perfect, but damn they are really good right now.

BTW, I already have Z fever. I am developing a bad case of V fever. They need to change the name so I can treat both my fevers. If they change it to a CTS-Z...
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I think someone spotted themselves an ATS-V...
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