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Old 04-18-2013, 10:58 AM   #12601
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And then there's that dang C7. I get frustrated (to myself) when others can't make up there mind. I usually have no problem as I know quickly and easily what I like, but now I'm torn. Oh the humanity!
...I understand your quandry..it's obvious with your sig pic..., it's a tough choice no doubt!
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:10 PM   #12602
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...I understand your quandry..it's obvious with your sig pic..., it's a tough choice no doubt!
...and to that end, perhaps some of you gentlemen would be so kind as to help me out here with the "bigger picture"....

I'm not that familiar with the Corvette line....They seem to come up frequently in regards to the Z/28...Trying to get a handle on why the Corvette's "influence" on this thing is in the mix as much as it is...

Is it a choice for track times?...A choice based on pricing?...A desire for the similar engine?....Is the Z/28 stepping on the Corvette's image or something?....Hopefully you get my drift...Not being negative...

To me, they seem like two different cars completely...Not seeing why the Corvette is such a factor here...

Slam me if you want...(don't worry, I won't become a regular in this thread...lol)...But any basic thoughts would be helpful...Thanks, Tom

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Old 04-18-2013, 01:33 PM   #12603
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...and to that end, perhaps some of you gentlemen would be so kind as to help me out here with the "bigger picture"....

I'm not that familiar with the Corvette line....They seem to come up frequently in regards to the Z/28...Trying to get a handle on why the Corvette's "influence" on this thing is in the mix as much as it is...

Is it a choice for track times?...A choice based on pricing?...A desire for the similar engine?....Is the Z/28 stepping on the Corvette's image or something?....Hopefully you get my drift...Not being negative...

To me, they seem like two different cars completely...Not seeing why the Corvette is such a factor here...

Slam me if you want...(don't worry, I won't become a regular in this thread...lol)...But any basic thoughts would be helpful...Thanks, Tom

...or, just ignore this post completely...lol...
In this thread you will not be ignored or slammed. It's just not our style.
Quickly now (I'm slammed today leaving for a weeks business show), the pricepoints are comparable. The Z/28 would be a toy for me. No need for utility. The new Corvette is OUTSTANDING! They will be close in capabilities. Hence the quandry (though I am a Camaro guy first).
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:51 PM   #12604
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...and to that end, perhaps some of you gentlemen would be so kind as to help me out here with the "bigger picture"....

I'm not that familiar with the Corvette line....They seem to come up frequently in regards to the Z/28...Trying to get a handle on why the Corvette's "influence" on this thing is in the mix as much as it is...

Is it a choice for track times?...A choice based on pricing?...A desire for the similar engine?....Is the Z/28 stepping on the Corvette's image or something?....Hopefully you get my drift...Not being negative...

To me, they seem like two different cars completely...Not seeing why the Corvette is such a factor here...

Slam me if you want...(don't worry, I won't become a regular in this thread...lol)...But any basic thoughts would be helpful...Thanks, Tom

...or, just ignore this post completely...lol...
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In this thread you will not be ignored or slammed. It's just not our style.
Quickly now (I'm slammed today leaving for a weeks business show), the pricepoints are comparable. The Z/28 would be a toy for me. No need for utility. The new Corvette is OUTSTANDING! They will be close in capabilities. Hence the quandry (though I am a Camaro guy first).
Agreed. I can't recall anyone getting slammed, flamed or in any way denigrated over a question and a good one at that.

I look at it this way. They are two different tools that cost (estimated) similar $$ and are both intended for track performance.

Both of these tools have unique attributes. Some prefer one over the other yet some appreciate both for what they are, their separate histories and the different ways they go about that track duty.

Some would say white wine vs. red. Others might say scotch vs beer. Either way they end up doing the same thing..............driving excitement.

But that it a great question, oft debated and argued. But we generally don't argue much in The House.
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Agreed. I can't recall anyone getting slammed, flamed or in any way denigrated over a question and a good one at that.

I look at it this way. They are two different tools that cost (estimated) similar $$ and are both intended for track performance.

Both of these tools have unique attributes. Some prefer one over the other yet some appreciate both for what they are, their separate histories and the different ways they go about that track duty.

Some would say white wine vs. red. Others might say scotch vs beer. Either way they end up doing the same thing..............driving excitement.

But that it a great question, oft debated and argued. But we generally don't argue much in The House.
I like what you did there!
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Agreed. I can't recall anyone getting slammed, flamed or in any way denigrated over a question and a good one at that.

I look at it this way. They are two different tools that cost (estimated) similar $$ and are both intended for track performance.

Both of these tools have unique attributes. Some prefer one over the other yet some appreciate both for what they are, their separate histories and the different ways they go about that track duty.

Some would say white wine vs. red. Others might say scotch vs beer. Either way they end up doing the same thing..............driving excitement.

But that it a great question, oft debated and argued. But we generally don't argue much in The House.
This sums up what I was going to say, so I will just say
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[QUOTE=90503;6438717
...I'm not that familiar with the Corvette line....They seem to come up frequently in regards to the Z/28...Trying to get a handle on why the Corvette's "influence" on this thing is in the mix as much as it is...

Is it a choice for track times?...A choice based on pricing?...A desire for the similar engine?....Is the Z/28 stepping on the Corvette's image or something?....Hopefully you get my drift...Not being negative...

To me, they seem like two different cars completely...Not seeing why the Corvette is such a factor here...
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Good question..and there are a bunch of good egg's here so The House of Z is a Woosah place...always feel free to come in and chat and enjoy the company. There are some very knowledgable people who frequent these parts. For me, it's a lifelong love affair with Camaro Z/28. Corvette's are the cousin to Camaro, so it's a natural curiosity out of family ties to know and love it. They are intertwined, yet seperate. They have shared technology. A pure two seater performance model, and a 2+2 coupe optioned from grocery getter to perfomance model. Many similarities, many differences. It come down to asthetics, personal preference, life style, and affordability. Some judge metrics of performance and value soley on a performance car purchase. I am a dyed in the wool Camaro guy, always have, always will be. I love the C7 'Vette, it's such a beautiful car. It stunning actually. But, I would feel guilty jumping ship.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:29 PM   #12609
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Plain nonsense.

They'll use the name in any racing series they see fit to. Just tweaking it to fit within the rules. Like the new Vyper, which has 200 less HP than the street version. Maybe the new series starting next year?
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:39 PM   #12610
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Good question..and there are a bunch of good egg's here so The House of Z is a Woosah place...always feel free to come in and chat and enjoy the company. There are some very knowledgable people who frequent these parts. For me, it's a lifelong love affair with Camaro Z/28. Corvette's are the cousin to Camaro, so it's a natural curiosity out of family ties to know and love it. They are intertwined, yet seperate. They have shared technology. A pure two seater performance model, and a 2+2 coupe optioned from grocery getter to perfomance model. Many similarities, many differences. It come down to asthetics, personal preference, life style, and affordability. Some judge metrics of performance and value soley on a performance car purchase. I am a dyed in the wool Camaro guy, always have, always will be. I love the C7 'Vette, it's such a beautiful car. It stunning actually. But, I would feel guilty jumping ship.

I appreciate all the responses...and yeah, understood differences and similarities "before"...lol...Cousins, absolutely...But they sure as heck didn't live in the same neighborhoods or go to the same schools that I recall...lol...
...Just finding it interesting that when debuted, it was compared by GM to the ZL-1..."three seconds faster" and all that...Seems the ZL1 is already old news and the Z/28 is in Corvette territory....Not saying that's a bad thing....Never pictured 'Vette and Camaro as "rivals" so to speak, competing for Chevy customers, until now...

Also just seems odd to me that I haven't noticed any "hard-core" ZL-1 "track guys" chime in about all this....Maybe there really aren't any?...

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Plain nonsense.
That's what I'm thinking. The Boss can be run in SCCA events so I don't see why they wouldn't allow the Z/28 to run....
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Rohh rohhhhhh Raggy IROC Z????
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:08 PM   #12615
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Yeah, I know the IROC isn't everybody's favorite Camaro on here but the photoshop was done nicely. There's some definite potential for blacking out the area under the headlights now that I've seen that pic. Maybe they'll do it for the 1LE.
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Yeah just look past the IROC Z logo
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Yeah, I know the IROC isn't everybody's favorite Camaro on here but the photoshop was done nicely. There's some definite potential for blacking out the area under the headlights now that I've seen that pic. Maybe they'll do it for the 1LE.
I agree the black in the grill area is really cool!
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....nice! Give us some more "options"...
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:27 PM   #12621
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LOL just noticed the LS9 on the hood bulge. I think you could call it Fred and no one care at that point what IROC stood for.
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Steve, meet Fred!

I'm not sure about that "Berlinetta-inspired" tail light panel/license surround...
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Steve, meet Fred!

I'm not sure about that "Berlinetta-inspired" tail light panel/license surround...
I'd probably buy one too. Something about that LS9 that I really like. I think that engine in the ZL1 would have been perfect. I for one would have happily forked over the extra $$.
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Well, if they have the wherewithal to assemble more LS7'd Camaros, maybe a Final Edition ZL1-R with an LS9 isn't alchemy after all...
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