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Old 04-19-2013, 07:13 PM   #12626
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I'd probably buy one too. Something about that LS9 that I really like. I think that engine in the ZL1 would have been perfect. I for one would have happily forked over the extra $$.
How much more? I think an LS9 was $25000 from GMPP. So that's a 10 to 15 grand premium for only 50 HP
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #12627
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Sounds about right. Hell, the first one will get charity a $million from Mr. Hendrick, alone...

Seriously, some Z/28 elements, some ZR1 "stir", keep all the speakers in it this time, $500/horse X 58 horses (throw in the rims/tires/brakes/seats/glass)...VOILA!

ZL1-R Final Edition!

69, only...and only 69 of 'em.

And the -R stands for 'ROIDS!

Priced an "aftermarket LS9" lately?! With a Dewey Dickem and Howe warranty?
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:23 PM   #12628
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How much more? I think an LS9 was $25000 from GMPP. So that's a 10 to 15 grand premium for only 50 HP
It's a fair question. It's more than the 50 HP, it's the forged internals. I'm not sure I'd have paid $10K more but probably $5K to $7K.
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:40 PM   #12629
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...and further, the ZL1 is an awesome car for the money. I really love it. But, it is heavy and after driving it for a season I feel it could use an extra 50-80 HP. I now find myself seriously pondering putting a blower pulley on my car. I've not been overly impressed with the aftermarket "tuning" (I refer to it as calibration) process. These guys don't really understand what they are doing. I know a thing or two about engines, combustion and calibrations. These tuners in most cases aren't formally trained in engine calibration or combustion analysis. They just basically wing it.

So, it's about $2500 for a pulley, CAI and dyno cal. I'd gladly pay double that for the same thing from the factory that is backed by warranty. I touch my LSA and my warranty is out the window.

I realize that I may be in the minority in my thinking here.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:02 PM   #12630
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...and further, the ZL1 is an awesome car for the money. I really love it. But, it is heavy and after driving it for a season I feel it could use an extra 50-80 HP. I now find myself seriously pondering putting a blower pulley on my car. I've not been overly impressed with the aftermarket "tuning" (I refer to it as calibration) process. These guys don't really understand what they are doing. I know a thing or two about engines, combustion and calibrations. These tuners in most cases aren't formally trained in engine calibration or combustion analysis. They just basically wing it.

So, it's about $2500 for a pulley, CAI and dyno cal. I'd gladly pay double that for the same thing from the factory that is backed by warranty. I touch my LSA and my warranty is out the window.

I realize that I may be in the minority in my thinking here.
....no, not alone. I begged earlier, as well as others, for a stage 2 factory upgrade. It does need more HP due to it's weight, it's close,....somewhat underpowered with obvious expandability and room for growth but it's not quite there. There is always room left for the aftermarket, but wouldn't it be nice if Chevy kept that inhouse once in awhile?
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:19 PM   #12631
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If you add a TVS2300, upgrade the i/c, build more boost...with LSA internals...you'll be a-wishin' you had a -9 instead of an -A...

...and some of those Z/28 dietary supplements (including the lighter/shorter wheel/tire combo and c-c brakes) would be mighty fine, as well...
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:29 PM   #12632
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If you add a TVS2300, upgrade the i/c, build more boost...with LSA internals...you'll be a-wishin' you had a -9 instead of an -A...

...and some of those Z/28 dietary supplements (including the lighter/shorter wheel/tire combo and c-c brakes) would be mighty fine, as well...
My point exactly.... Again, I love the car. It's fast but should be faster. I don't need the c-c brakes for my use but the extra HP I would love.

LOWDOWN, would you modify the -7 in the Z/28?
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Depends how "valuable" you deem your warranty...and depends on what you want.

We've had experience with the LS7 retro'd to a C5 Z06 (one of LPE's first). Made great power (525-480 rwhp/tq), in a linear fashion, that was fantastic for road racing. Much better than the previous 600-600-to-the-wheels TT 346, as far as predictability and corner-exit control on "required" Michelin PS2s. About as quick around most tracks as the TT (the shorter/tighter, the better), but not as fast, ultimately. 7 mph difference down the straight at Road America. 100+ lbs. lighter, right off the nose, than the TT.

Speed co$t$...how fast/quick ya wanna go?!
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:52 PM   #12634
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Depends how "valuable" you deem your warranty...
I get it. So, would you modify an LS7 in the new Z/28?

I've had a highly modified LS3 in an SS. It was a head cam NA build. I was awesome but had its quirks.

Up until now, the warranty on the ZL1 has been more important than the straight power. That may change at some point.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:59 PM   #12635
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Try it first, and see what you think. You can always get "spend-y" if you think you need to.

For a street-track thrill machine, more is always better. But I have a feeling this one will be mighty fine, out-o-the-box!
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:02 PM   #12636
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I agree with you.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:35 PM   #12637
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The house has been busy. Where should I start?

Vette vs Camaro

If you show up at a road course for a track day with a ZR1 is anyone really shocked that you turned in the FTD? Show up with a 5th Gen and post the FTD. Enjoy.

Z/28 vs 2014 C7


How cool is it that the fastest road course car sold by Chevrolet is a 5th Gen Z/28. Enjoy for a year until the C7 ZR1 or Z06 hit the track.

Under Powered ZL1


Can you spell S P O I L E D? Do I enjoy 600 RWHP? Am I slow with only 500?

CC Brakes

The cool factor alone is worth every penny.

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We live in the Unobtainium Age of Performance Cars!!!!!
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:12 PM   #12638
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Yes, I agree with you. I don't spoil myself with much. But one could construe my comments above and my thoughts on the subject as being spoiled. That said, I can't change the way I feel. I'm not jumping off a bridge over it and still feel the car is plenty fast. It's just the "HP junky" in me that wants (not needs) more power.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:31 AM   #12639
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Yes, I agree with you. I don't spoil myself with much. But one could construe my comments above and my thoughts on the subject as being spoiled. That said, I can't change the way I feel. I'm not jumping off a bridge over it and still feel the car is plenty fast. It's just the "HP junky" in me that wants (not needs) more power.
You can never have too much money or RWHP
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...Back to this thing for a sec...lol..."Photo-shopped"?...Does that include the raised white letter tires?....Do those exist, or is that bogus too?..Thanks...
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TOMATOES.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:44 AM   #12646
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:27 PM   #12647
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Ok that was strangely very funny.

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Just leave it at money. With too much money you can afford too much RWHP.

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...or Tomatos
Stop it. LOL

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...Back to this thing for a sec...lol..."Photo-shopped"?...Does that include the raised white letter tires?....Do those exist, or is that bogus too?..Thanks...
You can still buy raised white letter tires. Just not sure if it's photoshopped on the car. My guess is that someone took pics of the Z/28 and photoshopped pretty much everything to make it an IROC.

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LMAO, that was messed up!
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Looks like The House is in good spirits today. That's good cuz the weather is still crappy in D-Town and my car sits in covered in the garage, uninsured with a battery tender perculating away.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:58 PM   #12649
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Looks like The House is in good spirits today. That's good cuz the weather is still crappy in D-Town and my car sits in covered in the garage, uninsured with a battery tender perculating away.
Weather is crappy here as well.....

Oh well, not gonna stop me from going to the AMA Supercross tonight!
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:43 PM   #12650
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Weather is crappy here as well.....

Oh well, not gonna stop me from going to the AMA Supercross tonight!
Oh man, I was just looking to see if that was going to be on Speed Channel tonight. It's no. Bummer. RVP is on a roll.
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