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Old 04-23-2012, 05:54 PM   #9147
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:33 PM   #9148
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:43 PM   #9149
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:47 PM   #9150
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Doing good here. just starting to get frustrated in finding a room in PA for when I get back.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:53 PM   #9151
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Doing well. I'd ask that of you, but it's obvious...those happy ZL1 owners they can't stop smiling.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:55 PM   #9152
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Doing well. I'd ask that of you, but it's obvious...those happy ZL1 owners they can't stop smiling.
That would be known as the Ultra Grin effect...
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:58 PM   #9153
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Doing good here. just starting to get frustrated in finding a room in PA for when I get back.
Coming home soon!?

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Old 04-23-2012, 10:14 PM   #9154
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All good in the windy city. No snow storms here.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #9155
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yea. I can say I'll be making cigar fest in harmony PA.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:27 PM   #9156
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All good in the windy city. No snow storms here.
Lucky you....I can hear the car growling outside....all pissed off he's got snow on him...

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Old 04-23-2012, 11:32 PM   #9157
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anyone ever been over to the SVT forum? they have a thread that seems dedicated to C5. even dragoneye is quoted on there.

I find it funny that They spend so much time talking about how crappy the ZL1 is and the pill believe that it's all just gm marketing. Got anything better to do with your time?

you like your fords. and some of us like GM. some of us don't buy into the hype but also know that the car is still extremely impressive in the right hands.

I agree on some of his points but disagree on others. I also see his side on things but think it's funny that they spend so much time discussing C5. almost as if they are jealous. lol. I'll be honest though C5 hasn't been a place I liked a whole lot since the camaro debut. and it has to do with the bone headed comments a lot of members make. Members that joined after initial production. but whatever. no place is perfect.

62 pages to make them feel better about buying a ford.
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Old 04-24-2012, 12:36 AM   #9158
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Eh, let them play with themselves over at their forum. They may talk sh*t about us, call us fanboys, whatever, but it's important to note that losers like thepill came over to our site because apparently their lives are so meaningless and boring that they feel the need to "defend" their favorite brand/car on a competitor's forum. It's sad really.

Like I always say, I don't go to ToyotaNation to talk about GM.
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:45 PM   #9159
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:22 PM   #9160
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anyone ever been over to the SVT forum? they have a thread that seems dedicated to C5. even dragoneye is quoted on there.

I find it funny that They spend so much time talking about how crappy the ZL1 is and the pill believe that it's all just gm marketing. Got anything better to do with your time?

you like your fords. and some of us like GM. some of us don't buy into the hype but also know that the car is still extremely impressive in the right hands.

I agree on some of his points but disagree on others. I also see his side on things but think it's funny that they spend so much time discussing C5. almost as if they are jealous. lol. I'll be honest though C5 hasn't been a place I liked a whole lot since the camaro debut. and it has to do with the bone headed comments a lot of members make. Members that joined after initial production. but whatever. no place is perfect.

62 pages to make them feel better about buying a ford.
Sadly, we probably could have predicted the whole thing.

Wait til the new GT500 posts some numbers though. Right now it's all brand hating. They will turn to smug real fast ifffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff the GT500 is as they hope.

But if it's not, that is a hand full of 2s, 3s and 4s, all off suit, and they'll be back to brand hating full speed again.

BTW, is anyone other than me not impressed by the posted 1/4 times from the aftermarket guys? Not that those aren't nice and all, but it goes back to the modding issue. Me, I want stock performance. Maybe I just use that as the measuring stick of what GM is delivering, not just what it's capable of. I want real honest to goodness delivered and broke in numbers. But it might just be me. I'm just not impressed by a bigger pulley and powertrain recalibration.
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You guys should like this car! Which way is it going?

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Old 04-24-2012, 09:33 PM   #9162
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:45 PM   #9163
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anyone ever been over to the SVT forum? they have a thread that seems dedicated to C5. even dragoneye is quoted on there.

I find it funny that They spend so much time talking about how crappy the ZL1 is and the pill believe that it's all just gm marketing. Got anything better to do with your time?

you like your fords. and some of us like GM. some of us don't buy into the hype but also know that the car is still extremely impressive in the right hands.

I agree on some of his points but disagree on others. I also see his side on things but think it's funny that they spend so much time discussing C5. almost as if they are jealous. lol. I'll be honest though C5 hasn't been a place I liked a whole lot since the camaro debut. and it has to do with the bone headed comments a lot of members make. Members that joined after initial production. but whatever. no place is perfect.

62 pages to make them feel better about buying a ford.
I'm quoted? Well.....I'm flattered. I don't care what point they made with whatever I said - but I'm flattered!

Actually....I know of one other time a GT500 forum quoted me...and that was when I issued that public warning to our "Mustang friends"...they didn't like that...

You have to remember one thing about the current Camaro5.com.....there are a lot of newbies to the Camaro here. Which IS, undeniably, a good thing for the car...but they've got some time ahead of them...and besides all that - generally speaking, the larger a crowd gets, the more chances you have of finding someone stupid in it...I'm not insinuating anybody here is stupid, because this is a public post - but you get my drift....

It's a compromise I'm willing to live with, because the vast majority of people here - I find to be enthusiastic and likable. As I said in my journal thread - the car embodies the spirit of its enthusiasts, to me...it's a special feeling.

As for the GT500....you've all heard me say it before...

GT500 is old-school brute-force muscle car.

ZL1 is the new-age super-"muscle car".

They are nearly incomparable if you ask me. But if forced into a line-by-line comparison; the ZL1 is vastly superior in 90% of categories to the Mustang...but all people seem to care about when bench racing is the horsepower number (funny, though...before the '13 announcement, nobody seemed to care the SS and V6 Camaro made more power than their Mustang rivals )...and the quarter-mile guesses...which, I'll grant - will most likely be quicker than the Z.

But the GT500 is one giant heap of a compromise. It's as polished as a turd can get....the architecture is Antiquated....So Ford stuck to their strengths and pushed an outrageous-output engine into a car that otherwise is very unimpressive to the keen observer.

Time will show this to be true, imho.....

But in the end - I don't really care. I didn't buy the ZL1 because "it was the best"...or because I fooled myself into thinking this is as good as its ever going to get. I just....like the car. A LOT.
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