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Future Camaro Owner
Drives: 2010 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4dr Join Date: Aug 2006
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Chevrolet Volt
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General Motors' first plug-in hybrid, the Chevrolet Volt concept, introduces GM's new family of electric-drive propulsion systems By Michelle Krebs Email ![]() Date posted: 01-07-2007 STORY TOOLS Print this Save this Digg this! Email this Most popular del.icio.us General Motors has unveiled the Chevrolet Volt concept, the company's first plug-in hybrid vehicle, at the 2007 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. The Chevrolet Volt concept is the first vehicle to use GM's new E-flex family of propulsion systems. GM claims the Volt delivers triple-digit fuel economy and can travel up to 640 miles without a fuel fill-up or a battery recharge. How the Volt works By its own admission, GM is late to the party on hybrid vehicles. Yet the Volt still manages to turn conventional hybrid thinking on its ear. While current hybrids employ a battery-powered electric motor to supplement or complement a gasoline-powered engine, the Volt runs only on electric power until the battery runs down. Then and only then does the internal-combustion engine kick in. Further, an onboard generator produces electricity while the car is operating. The electricity is then stored in the battery. Energy normally lost in braking also is recaptured and sent to the battery. The batteries can also be recharged by plugging into an electrical outlet. The specs for triple-digit fuel economy The Volt features a front-mounted electric motor that generates 120 kilowatts of power (160 horsepower) and 236 pound-feet of torque. Lithium-ion batteries are housed beneath the Volt's floor. Also onboard is a 53-kilowatt electric generator. The turbocharged, 1.0-liter three-cylinder gasoline engine also fits up front, while the 12-gallon fuel tank is in the rear. The Volt will drive about 40 miles on pure electric power. Vehicle Line Director Tony Posawatz (whose name rhymes with "kilowatts"), says GM arbitrarily picked this distance because Department of Transportation studies show that half of U.S. households travel less than 30 miles per day, while 78 percent of commuters travel no more than 40 miles per day to work. "Most Volt drivers would use little or no gasoline," Posawatz notes. By the numbers By GM's calculations, the Volt would save the typical driver 500 gallons of fuel a year, amounting to a net cost savings of $900 (assuming gas costs $2.40 a gallon). The addition to a home electric bill would be about $300. In the bigger scheme of things, the Volt saves the environment some 4.4 metric tons of carbon dioxide that might otherwise be emitted into the air in a year, GM claims. Flex for flexibility The "flex" in the E-flex name stands for "flexibility." GM promises more concepts using the E-flex system will be unveiled at future auto shows. The automaker hints those could incorporate diesel generators, biodiesel and pure ethanol or E-100. Further into the future, the E-flex system could accommodate hydrogen-powered fuel cells. GM confirmed it is working on a fuel-cell variant like that in the Sequel concept. Instead of a large battery and small engine like in the Volt, it would have a fuel-cell propulsion system with a small battery to capture energy from a regenerative braking system, and would need only half of the hydrogen storage of the original Sequel concept to achieve 300 miles of range. GM engineers have designed the E-flex system so it can be tailored to meet the specific needs and fuel infrastructure of a given market. For instance, the E-flex system might use 100-percent ethanol in Brazil. In Sweden, it might use biodiesel made from wood. The E-flex system uses common drive components so it can be adapted to a variety of chassis and vehicles. Well, it's no EV1 The recent documentary film, Who Killed the Electric Car?, accused automakers (GM, in particular), of sabotaging the electric car, specifically GM's EV1. GM engineers say the Volt and GM's E-flex wouldn't have been possible without the invaluable lessons learned from the EV1. In fact, many of the same engineers who worked on the EV1 are working on the Volt and E-flex. "EV1 was a good idea, but the Volt is a better one," insists Posawatz. The EV1 carried only two passengers; the Volt accommodates four. The Volt will take a quick charge and requires less than 6.5 hours to fully recharge; the EV1 took eight hours to recharge. The EV1 had no backup system when the batteries died, and its driving range was between 60 and 90 miles. The Volt has a small gasoline engine that kicks in when the battery runs down, delivering a total driving range of 640 miles. "There would never be a situation in which you didn't get home," GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz assures us. The Volt accelerates from a dead stop to 60 mph in less than 8.5 seconds (the EV1 took about a second longer), and has a top speed of 120 mph. (The EV1 would barely reach 80 mph.) Challenge to battery developers While GM's Jon Lauckner, vice president of global program management, insists E-flex and the Volt "are not science fair projects," nor publicity stunts, GM readily admits E-flex and the Chevrolet Volt are not ready for prime time. While GM says it intends to produce the E-flex systems, significant advancements must first be made in battery technology. Batteries for future cars must be able to last the full useful life of a vehicle and endure extreme hot and cold temperatures. In the Volt, GM has used a series of lithium-ion battery cells. The string of battery cells must continue working even if one cell fails. GM won't provide details, but says it is working with major battery manufacturers. In the meantime, GM has moved forward with the E-flex propulsion system and the Volt concept even though the batteries are not yet ready. The automaker didn't want to find itself in a situation where the batteries were ready but the car was not. After all, the plug-in future is almost here. ![]() ![]()
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Muscle Car Prodigy
Drives: 1973 Chevy Nova Join Date: Jan 2007
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nice
im not much of a fan of hybrids but it the best one ive ever seen, ide drive it
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Drives: '99 Camaro SS #1392 Join Date: Jun 2006
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Saw a pic. of the Volt on the news...looks pretty cool!
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That's actually cool! and 640 miles on top of that? Nice. I wonder how long it takes to recharge the battery to a full charge.
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About 4-6 hours...it's designed to be an overnight thing.
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The Jalopy Jedi
Drives: anything I can get my hands on Join Date: Sep 2006
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dont know about that berger panel tho...lol
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Chevrolet Enthusiast
Drives: 2011 Camaro SS ;) Join Date: Jun 2006
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Pretty cool for a hybrid... If desperate times called for desperate measures, I might actually consider that hybrid above the rest!! lol
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I've often wondered how much "influence" the gas/oil companies have on the engingeers that develop electric-car technology.
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how do you feel about the "plane" that hit the pentagon?
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Go Rays!
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I'm honestly on the fence about it. There's just enough to make me wonder...namely the part about the light poles on the interstate being taken out by the wings of an airplane...that would normally chew right through a wing were somehow ripped out of the ground.
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I drank what?
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Check this out and ask yourself, "why aren't we driving cars that run on water? Cause someone's gettin' paid. |
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Really its just common sense, I wrote a research paper for school on this very topic about 4 weeks ago. The cost of gasoline is to cheap for any other type of fuel/alternative to break its hold on the majority of the market. Thats really the only reason, we consumers don't want to spend the cash.
Even the EPA estimates that gas has to reach $5+ a gallon for over a year before any of the alternatives start to have a financial advantage over gasoline. (I can give you a direct quote from the lead guy on ethanol with the EPA)
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I drank what?
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Here's the same thing; different news coverage
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Let's all try to keep the topic on the Volt! Thanks!
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I used to be Dragoneye...
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yes, Volt...I really love this Car, (cough) I love the Camaro more, but what's great about this thing, is it really isn't a hybrid! This is a step in a totally different direction - and GM is at the helm. This technology will DEFINITLY give GM the lead above the other companies. It can be configured to have the generator run on anything from straight gasoline to Hydrogen!! That makes it one of the most versatile cars out there - it can be taylored to the location. If there is more Ethanol in the West, have the West Coast cars run on ethanol, Want a fuel cell for the eastern side of the country, do it!. I wouldn't be surprised if this makes it's way into biodiesel too!
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I used to be Dragoneye...
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Info, anybody?
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Darn it...I'd watch it right now but I have the baby who just fell asleep on me and the 2 year old asleep in the next room who wakes up from the tv or comp in here. I'll have to get on it tomorrow am.
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I know its two really different hybrids. But the volt is so much cooler. The Prius is ugly slow and did i mention ugly and slow? The volt has 236 lb/ft of torque, and looks great. Need i say more?
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This was a hopped up battery, of course but that's what's great about these "Nanophosphate" batterys; they have been proven to offer tremendous power, a charge of 5/6 minutes compared to an equally strong Li+ battery's charge of 90 minutes, and 10x the life of Li+ batteries:eek: Try to swallow that whole And as for the Pretty little prius (sarcastic), The Volt isn't designed at all like it, it has the potential to be completely gas-free for the full of the vehicle's lifespan! |
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This article is from financial times but was placed on the Internal gm website at work. Enjoy.
GM Eyes Electric Car Initiative Financial Times By Bernard Simon Aug. 13, 2007 General Motors may allow buyers of its Chevy Volt electric car to rent the vehicle's battery as a way of pricing the vehicle at a comparable level to a traditional, petrol-driven family saloon. The Volt is emerging as one of the most crucial vehicles in GM's history. Failure would be a deep embarrassment after the fanfare surrounding its development. But success could propel GM past Toyota as a pioneer in alternative energy vehicles. GM has assigned 150 engineers to the project. The Detroit carmaker aims to launch the Volt by 2010. The battery would give a range of 40 miles and maintain full performance for at least 10 years. It would be recharged either by the car's small combustion engine or from a normal electrical point. Battery rentals would helpful GM's goal of giving the Volt a wider appeal than the petrol-electric hybrid vehicles now on the road. Noting that the Volt will be marketed under GM’s global, mass-market Chevrolet brand, Frank Weber, the carmaker's chief engineer, said that it "needs to be affordable to the buyer of a normal mid-sized car". Bob Lutz, GM's vice-chairman, said the Volt would be produced in both left- and right-hand drive versions. GM has so far shown a concept saloon model, but plans to unveil a second design at the Frankfurt car show next month. Mr. Lutz said: "We see it being sold round the world." GM's confidence contrasts with reports that Toyota has delayed the launch of new hybrid models because of concerns about battery safety. Justin Ward, a Toyota engineer, told a research conference last week that lithium-ion battery technology "hasn't proven that it's ready for the automotive market yet". The two companies are pursuing different lithium-ion chemistries. Toyota uses nickel cobalt aluminum oxide, while GM has turned to a newer nano-phosphate technology. GM expects to start testing batteries in October. Ric Fulop, co-founder of A123Systems, one of three companies developing the Volt's battery pack, said a big challenge was to maintain temperatures throughout the battery once it was in a vehicle. GM's goal is to price the Volt, excluding battery, at about the same level as its Chevrolet Malibu saloon. Mr. Weber estimates that an average Volt owner would spend about $25 (£12) a month on petrol, against $145 for a traditional Malibu. The difference could be used on battery rental payments, giving a similar total cost. |
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That is really the key to getting these hybrids more mainstream styling and performance.
This hybrid is easily the best looking, and 0-60 in 8.5 seconds....while not particularly quick, is enough to feel responsive in daily driving duties. I would drive this as a commuter car myself.
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the reason that these hybrids could be a lot faster is that internal combustion has rpms, electricity is instant and continuous power.
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Imagine if that "78%" of the population bought one of these things - after all, GM is the only one offering something of this caliber - just like downshifting
GM will fly by Toyota!
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