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Old 07-17-2010, 01:05 AM   #188
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Can you look at your invoice and list the p/n of the replacement pieces for us.

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Mike, not sure if you're directing that at me as I don't have OEM replacement parts, mine are all Pfadt components. And the coilovers are KW's.

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Old 07-23-2010, 06:47 PM   #189
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FINALLY. I thought I was going crazy. Same issue here. I have 8900 miles on her. I am going to bring it in to New Rochelle Chevy when I have a chance. It's not something that happens all the time. But when I turn into my drive way (which is on an incline), it does it. Or the occasional slow speed pot hole/speed bump. Real annoying, makes the car sound cheap.
Mine also has this same problem. I have been watching the many post that relate to this problem for almost a year while I wait for a fix from GM. This is a specific noise you can hear but also you can "feel" it in the front end whenever I drive at low/slow speed over speed bumps or pot holes. There is no evidence of this same problem in the rearend, just in the front and it is getting worse. Also, there are sounds and popping noises when I turn into my driveway, which is also on an incline. It makes the car feel cheap and not put together very well. I also do not beleive it is a normal characteristic of the suspension or frontend.

I have taken the car to the Chevy service dept. several times--the most recent was last month when their tech reported the problem could not be recreated/heard. Initially they did hear the noise and when compared with new Camaros on their lot they also heard it. But I was told there is no fix for the problem and so I would have to wait. I'm still waiting.

By the way I am also still waiting on a fix for the hesitation/poor/jerky acceleration at lower speeds. And now the OnStar (when trying to make a phone call) causes the radio to freeze so that it won't shut off even after the car is powered off and key is pulled. The radio sits for hours apparently powered on, with no sound but the display is on as if it were tuned into a station with the volume turned off. Cannot use OnStar at this point. This problem started after a fix/reprogramming was done for the air conditioner.

If anyone has luck with a fix for the front end popping/klunking noise I would love to hear about it.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:17 PM   #190
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GM has PIE0054A out there since March 29, 2010. This is a info sheet to the dealers telling them to contact them when they have a clunk, pop, or rattle in the front end that is not obvious. So GM is still working on a cause and fix.

I roadtested a Camaro where the owner would turn the steering wheel as far as it would go, and back out the driveway. This caused a noise that is really not that fixable. The are on the spindle stops and metal to metal. Hitting a bump creates metal to metal vertical contact. Adding a little grease there may help. I know this is not everybody's issue but is just one specific example.

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Old 07-24-2010, 08:10 PM   #191
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I have just returned home from an afternoon of shopping for a new car. I won't accept this and the other problems mine has. Especially since I have had these issues since the car was new about a year ago. I actually gave the Dodge Challenger SRT8 a good going over but I hate that the only interior scheme includes black leather.

This is my third Camaro, second SS and I am so very disappointed. I love this car's look and still hate to part with it. But I enjoy driving way too much to drive a car that "bothers" me if you know what I mean. If only Chevrolet understood that most of us who bought these cars are picky down to the gnatt's ass about how our cars perform.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:18 PM   #192
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Gm will find a fix for the clunking and popping front end problem faster if everyone with this noise will take their car into their dealership and ask for TSB PIE0054A.

Also ask that the engineers be called as directed by TSB PIE0054A.

No action gets no results.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:49 PM   #193
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Gm will find a fix for the clunking and popping front end problem faster if everyone with this noise will take their car into their dealership and ask for TSB PIE0054A.

Also ask that the engineers be called as directed by TSB PIE0054A.

No action gets no results.
You are on the right track. I think the challenge is potentially getting lack info from the dealer.

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Old 08-02-2010, 09:28 PM   #194
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clunk, clunk

I have 3000 miles on my RS. At about 1200 miles is when I started hearing a clunking noise on bumps at slow speeds coming from my drivers side front. Took the car in, and dealer told me they couldn't hear it, and sent me on my way. In the mean time I have taken it to 3 different mechanics, and they have all heard it. Have taken it back 3 times, and each time they can't hear it. Last time I road with the service writer, and I could see his facial expression change when he heard it. They had my car up on the rack for 2 hours just to tell me they couldn't find anything that it must of just been tire noise, and that it is normal. When I read a copy of the ticked the service writer had put on there that he did not here it on test drive. I call bull poop on that. He also told me that all the print outs from this forum didn't mean squat to GM, or that dealer. I have talked to a rep from GM and they told me "You have to take it up with the dealer".

I was born, and raised in a Chevy family. My pops is a retired Chevy mechanic of 50 plus years. This is realy putting a sour taste in my mouth, and don't think I will buy chevy again.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:01 PM   #195
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You do have other alternatives. If you look in your owner's manual, there is a section on how to resolve disputes. You should contact GM customer relations and explain your concerns. Ultimately, you can seek 3rd party arbitration through the BBB. You will have to demonstrate the noise to them.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:09 PM   #196
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Follow up report. My car will be one year old this Saturday with 9200 miles on it, and the noise started after about 300 miles. It continuse to this day. I have had it in several times and had strut mount TSB performed. Still they tell me there is no "fix" yet. Keep asking your dealers !!!!!!!

On the other hand.... I know the noise is still there, but I hear it less these summer days with the sun roof open, windows down and my "driving music" playing throught he sound system. I really dread those cold fall /winter days when the windows will be closed and the noise will be once again, irritatingly evident.

Let's keep bugging our local dealers! They fixed my transmission bolt "back-out" problem, I know they will eventually fix this too.

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Old 08-05-2010, 03:47 AM   #197
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A good new for you i had the same problem and when i took my car to local GM dealer they checked and confrimed that they need to change full steering assembeling called " steering rack and pinion",
They ordered it and 3 days back i took my car and found the problem solved ,yahooooo much happy that they fix it ,
please visit your dealer and ask the same fix.

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Old 08-05-2010, 10:08 PM   #198
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V6 Camaro Same Noise

Hey guys,

I've got the same issue with our Camaro over here at Hillbank. The sounds started after I lowered the car with my Eibach springs. From what I've determined based off wear it that the top retention washer/plate is actually shifting. The strut appears to be moving side to side and dropping down under bumps and turns.

We're more thank likely going to create a new retention plate to fix the noise here shortly.

I'll post any pictures we have if its fixed!

I drive this car everyday and its driving me crazy, so I'm pretty motivated to find a fix.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:12 PM   #199
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I have a popping/banging noise coming from the driver side front of my car when I hit a small bump while turning the wheel. Never when driving straight, only when turning.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:17 PM   #200
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I have a popping/banging noise coming from the driver side front of my car when I hit a small bump while turning the wheel. Never when driving straight, only when turning.
Yep, that's it!

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Old 08-10-2010, 10:35 PM   #201
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Good evening everyone- On the first birthday of my 2010 IOM Camaro 2LTRS, my dealer sent me an electronic birthday card. I am pretty friensdly with the Sales manager, so I replied, asking whether GM had come up with a "fix" for the front end noise in the year since I bought my car. The manager looked into ths question and sent me the GM notice below. It looks like it just came out last week so it is up to date.

I guess the real issue is whether it is considered "normal" nose, common to Camaros in general. I offered to bring the car in and let his techs go over it once again. I also cited what people on this thread are saying about replacing strut assemblies and torn/shifted strut pads.... I also noted that many people on this thread have said they have NO NOISE. I guess that makes my noise abnormal then doesn't it?

I will wait to see what response I get. I hope this helps you all!

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This is the latest information he found...not sure if the noise you're hearing is going to be consider normal for the vehicle or not...

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Document ID: 2512852
#PI0197: Front Suspension Thump or Loose Lumber Noise - (Aug 4, 2010)

Subject:Front Suspension Thump or "Loose Lumber" Noise

Models:2010-2011 Chevrolet Camaro


The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern

Some customers may comment about suspension noise coming from the front of the vehicle when driving at low/moderate speeds (16-40 km/h [10-25 mph]) over rough roadway surfaces (cracks, lightly broken surfaces). The sound has been described as a rattle, knocking, clunking or "loose lumber" noise. This sound should be of a relatively low volume and behave as a brief rumble or thud following impacts with rough roadways. The sound is non-metallic in nature and has a dull wooden character.
The "loose lumber" sound exists as a result of the basic component configuration and tuning that effect the ride, handling and steering of the vehicle.
Recommendation/Instructions

When a customer brings in a vehicle with front suspension noise, upon confirmation of the sound via a test drive, a brief inspection of the front suspension should be conducted (fastener torques, bushing/ball joint health). If no issues are found, the technician should confirm that the sound is/is not typical for the Camaro. (If needed, drive another Camaro and note the sound quality over small impacts.) If the sound is common in character with that of other Camaros, the customer should be informed that the vehicle is operating as intended and that the "loose lumber" sound is a normal suspension sound.
Warranty Information

If the noise is found to be a normal condition, please submit labor operation E9995 (Customer Concern Not Duplicated -- Tires, Wheels, Suspension and Steering); otherwise, utilize the labor operation for the repaired or replaced component.
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.

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Would you like us to reevaluate the concern?

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Old 08-16-2010, 11:56 PM   #202
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My car just started this. 4800 Miles. Does it when turning at slow speeds. I will let you know if I find any resolutions at the dealer. I will bring the above info when I go.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:40 AM   #203
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I get the same popping noise going over bumps / potholes as well. Hopefully GM will have a fix soon. I have had the Pedder's coilovers on from day 1 and drove it for quite a while with no noise. Now it seems to be happening.
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:35 PM   #204
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I took my car in for the popping/snapping noise when turning. Showed them the TSB for the strut mounts, they ordered the parts and I took it in for repair today. They installed the new mounts, and it still made the noise, but only when the car was on the ground. He had my car apart and back together 3 times.

The tech said he was ordering a lower control arm for the drivers side as the passenger one was replaced after I hit the curb. After my car was repaired from the curb incident I had no noises coming from the car. They started about a month after the repairs were completed. I don't know if this will solve the problem or not, and I don't think the tech does either. All I know is I don't like the PT cruiser that they gave me for a loaner; good thing I still got my truck.
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