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Old 07-17-2012, 08:49 PM   #601
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Back to dealer tomorrow.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:56 PM   #602
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:25 PM   #603
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Old 07-20-2012, 07:22 AM   #604
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Sorry cant make it, some day!

Dealer is replacing end links and bushings, parts on order. We will see if that cures the clunks.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:27 PM   #605
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Was good for a couple hundred miles and BAM - it's back. Nice.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:28 AM   #606
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Was good for a couple hundred miles and BAM - it's back. Nice.
There is no way that the new parts wore out in a couple of hundred miles. One of the fasteners worked a bit loose.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #607
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Well, one thought I had is if there is grease packed in the joints at the factory and the tolerances are such (too big) that once the grease moves around a bit the joint starts to have more movement within and the clunking starts. Just a theory of course.

The dealer has been great and they are going to put "chassis ears" on the car to see it's something else. Will be interesting to see/hear and they will check the bolts while there of course.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:35 PM   #608
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2013 Strut Mount Changes

The front strut mount has been changed slightly for 2013. The change appears to be a simplification of the manufacturing process. Watch this video for the details.



There is no change of substance in terms of function from the older mount to the new mount. The upper coil eye dimension has not been changed. Pedders lowering coils are still a perfect fit to the steel an urethane insulator. You can count on Pedders to bring you the most up-to-date information for your 5th Gen Camaro.

I sincerely doubt the new style mount and insulator will have any impact on strut noise. There is the slightest possibility that the egg-crate grid the new steel insulator mates to could possibly transmit less noise. The main reason I doubt it will help is we completely discard the insulator when we install coilovers and have never had a complaint regarding strut noise after a high quality installation. I could be wrong and it may be worth asking your dealer about this change.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:00 PM   #609
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Pete,

I really admire you for helping swan with his quest in fixing his problem.

I mean, this problem is not yours, yet you continue to monitor this thread and offer up advice.

A real class act!

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Old 09-02-2012, 05:59 PM   #610
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Pete,

I really admire you for helping swan with his quest in fixing his problem.

I mean, this problem is not yours, yet you continue to monitor this thread and offer up advice.

A real class act!

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Old 09-10-2012, 08:11 AM   #611
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It's back at the dealer (frankly, my last effort at getting this cured). They found a bulletin or two that relates to front end noise and they are going to use the "ears" to locate the exact location, etc. They've been really great about looking into this for me and really appreciate Pedder's support as well.

I'll let you know if they find anything that can be cured.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #612
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I hope it works out well.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:50 PM   #613
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Sadly it did not and in fact it's worse. Almost wish I never tried to get this cured.

They replaced both struts, mounts and bumpers. It was quiet for the first day I had it back and then each day it got worse and worse. It acts like something is loosening but I can't get any movement out of the various bolts. At this point I suspect it's a noise internal to the struts or it's those end links or bar bushings again (will play more this weekend).

Thanks for all your support in diagnosing this, I'm very disappointed that this can't be fixed right w/o money injection from me.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:57 PM   #614
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Sadly it did not and in fact it's worse. Almost wish I never tried to get this cured.

They replaced both struts, mounts and bumpers. It was quiet for the first day I had it back and then each day it got worse and worse. It acts like something is loosening but I can't get any movement out of the various bolts. At this point I suspect it's a noise internal to the struts or it's those end links or bar bushings again (will play more this weekend).

Thanks for all your support in diagnosing this, I'm very disappointed that this can't be fixed right w/o money injection from me.
Have you seen this?



There is nothing I can see or touch that would indicate it has superior NVH characteristics, but it might be worth another visit with your Chevy Dealer.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:16 PM   #615
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There is nothing I can see or touch that would indicate it has superior NVH characteristics, but it might be worth another visit with your Chevy Dealer.
Thanks, I did. But they used chassis ears and said it was the struts. So they replaced them, I wasn't going to argue as I figured I had bad struts.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:21 PM   #616
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I'm pretty sure the struts are same as 2013 too, they have that light color to the bearing from what I can tell looking up into the wheel well.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:59 PM   #617
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Thanks, I did. But they used chassis ears and said it was the struts. So they replaced them, I wasn't going to argue as I figured I had bad struts.
The strut noise if a hydraulic flutter. Clicks, mechanical sounds come from something mechanical and not hydraulic.

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I'm pretty sure the struts are same as 2013 too, they have that light color to the bearing from what I can tell looking up into the wheel well.
Have your OE endlinks been changed out in the process?
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:05 PM   #618
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Yes, first visit was to replace sway bar end links and bushings.
Next step was struts/mounts and bumpers. I know the noise you are referring to - my Volvo had that fluid "swoosh" and that didn't bother me. You could only hear it with the windows open and going slow over a speed bump or such. This noise is that ridiculous "loose lumber" sound like these guys have:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...front-end.html

Looks like Ford had a similar issue (perhaps) and came up with their own "toilet mod" http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...30-post13.html

Wonder, who invented the "loose lumber" term first? http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...900-post9.html

I started a new thread to be sure we're talking about the same "clunk" noise:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...85#post5659685

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Old 10-15-2012, 03:43 AM   #619
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Hello Camaro Clunking Group. I recently bought a 2010 Camaro SS, and the first thing I noticed was the clunking noise in the front end. I jumped the gun and purchased the car without any research. In 2007 I purchased a Mustang GT that had the same problem. The dealer's answer was always that it was the characteristic of the car. *Y&%^#@! SURE! Well long story short is that we organized a long list of complaints online to Ford. And Wow! Ford found the problem to be bad upper strut mount bearings etc. etc. etc. .... Whatever. The best part was that they did a TSB on the Mustang suspension and fixed the problem. I was like everyone else and very pissed off about a new car riding like an old worn out 4x4 truck. NO WAY! I finally got my Mustang back and it drove like a new car. Tight steering and NO CLUNK! It was worth holding the thread open and pounding on the door to Ford to get action on the issue. You can goto fordmustangforum.com and search the "front end clunking noise" and you will see allot of the same talk as you all have now. But It is worth continuing the fight. WOW! what a feeling, driving a 30,000 dollar car that actuall finally drives like a 30,000 dollar car. Let me know where I can help. I need the fix as well.

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:17 PM   #620
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Same problem with my 2010 RS 6 cyl. Took it in at 35,500 miles, dealer ruled " unable to duplicate" but the specific bump was 20 miles away and i hated to drive the guy all the way out there. So, now, at 75,000 miles, the noise is still there. My specific noise has to be the strut. It's a loud popping when you go over a ledge or hump where the weight of the car hasn't been allowed to transfer from the front to the rear, ie, the front end is " unloaded". There's nothing to keep the strut from fully expanding, and there is ZERO resistance to keep it from sounding like a disaster. Dangdest thing I've ever seen. I will drive it till the wheel falls off, then I'll deal with the fallout from there. I suppose replacing the stock struts with some quality aftermarket units may take care of the problem. I may post the video later if possible. I still love my car, I get compliments virtually every time someone sees it. It really is eye candy.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:12 PM   #621
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It's really a shame that this noise mars an otherwise excellent ride. I know some have it worse and some don't have it at all.

Oh well, I'm done chasing it, I have been without the car for about 2 weeks over all so they could look into it.

Just not worth it.
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Old 01-10-2013, 07:02 AM   #622
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Edit: Disregard Last brake change didn't use new bolts on the calipers.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:56 AM   #623
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I have the same problem but I thought it was because I installed eibach springs.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:03 PM   #624
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Clunk clunk clunk....My rant

Clunk clunk clunk....My rant...

I believe I have read all the post about Camaro clunk at least once and really what is the fix... I know I donít have a lose sway bar..disconnected the end links, still clunked.

I bought this car used last May, the car was absolutely cherry, but I didnít notice the clunk ( guess I was still to much in love with the car) until one day I had to pick up my seven year old grandson at summer camp. he is driving in the car with me and says Papa were is the big black car ( 2004 mercury Marauder) and why are you driving this bumpy car...thatís when I started to really notice the clunk..

Kind of got used to the clunk, helps a tiny little bit to know others have it also. Then I put a tire rack snow tire packages with wheels on were the fronts are a little taller....now the clunk is a little louder than it was..Just got through driving my wife's Hyundai for five days, forgot how a regular car sounds like over bumps...even a Hyundai ( not my choice for a car..hers ). Now my car rides more like a clunker...back it the day ( I am 68 ) thatís what they called a bad car ...A CLUNKER..
How can GM say this a normal sound. If so they should recall all the Camaros without the clunk. Does GM know how to fix the clunk...bet they do, are thy going to tell how to fix, no they wont..that would be admitting the problem..... Maybe the USA ( all of us) shouldnít have bailed them out..

IF I put new insulators and shocks would that solve the problem ? how about 70/30 shocks would that make it worse ?

They used to say ...who put the ram in the ramalamadingdong... and I say...who put the clunk de dunk in the Camaro...
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Thanks for letting me rant a little..
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:33 PM   #625
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Has anyone replace the struts and gotten rid of the clunking? I'm considering the lakewood 70/30's as well since I like to take the car to the strip. Only problem is the BMR front 1.4" drop springs may not be compatible.

Does replacing the factory struts with coil-overs fix this?
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