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Old 10-26-2009, 06:04 PM   #1
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Hurst Shifter Question?

Does any one know the height difference (if any) between the Hurst Short Throw with traditional ball (white or black) vs. the factory shifter?
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:08 PM   #2
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Just from pics it does look like it sits a little lower. I would like to know as well
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:10 PM   #3
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I just got the Hurst shifter at their offices last saturday and they explained that the one they sell is engineered to very high standards and build. The factory shifter is cheaper to produce and therefore not designed or built to the standards of the Hurst shifter. When you see the two side by side you can easily see the difference.

The Hurst shifter is great; very solid, very precise and the car feels totally different with it now. I highly recommend it; a very worthwhile upgrade.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:13 PM   #4
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I just got the Hurst shifter at their offices last saturday and they explained that the one they sell is engineered to very high standards and build. The factory shifter is cheaper to produce and therefore not designed or built to the standards of the Hurst shifter. When you see the two side by side you can easily see the difference.

The Hurst shifter is great; very solid, very precise and the car feels totally different with it now. I highly recommend it; a very worthwhile upgrade.
Not to high-jack, but do you have a rattle in third, or a "clunk" while shifting at lower speeds.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:24 PM   #5
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You can hear a rattle if you're pressing on the shifter; I don't hear any rattle if I'm not resting my hand on it. I hear a sort of chunk sound when shifting into 2nd but that's about it.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:50 PM   #6
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rattle and clunk in all gears is typical. Our 2007 mustang with hurst and 2007 c6 with hurst both rattle and clunk. it is b/c there are not rubber bushings. its a race shifter, you have to deal with the clunk and rattle. i put dynamat in the c6 to stop it. the mustang is so loud you cant hear it, esp. when the supercharger spools up! the camaro gets its hurst installed next weekend!
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:12 PM   #7
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Does any one know the height difference (if any) between the Hurst Short Throw with traditional ball (white or black) vs. the factory shifter?
The Hurst shifter is about 6.5 inches to the top of the ball from the console. Sorry, I didn't measure the OEM shifter before I took it out.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:47 PM   #8
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To me, it is a tad bit higher (1/4"), but havn't measured.




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Old 10-26-2009, 09:57 PM   #9
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I too, had my shifter installed at the B&M/Hurst office this past Saturday. Initially, I was very happy with appearance, much shortened shift-throw and positive feeling of gear engagement. Then was turned off by the excessive, constant and annoying shifter rattle noise in the lower gears when accelerating hard. I normally rest my hand on the shifter knob between gear shifts and I thought that should keep pressure on the shifter and help reduce the noise.
I read here an hour ago and the noise is less if you don't rest your hand on the knob so I went for a quick drive and am happy to report that the noise is greatly reduced when you keep your hand off it when accelerating hard. I LOVE the hurst shifter! It should have been the 1st mod I did on this car. It takes shifting to a new level.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:09 PM   #10
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its bad to hold the shifter. wears things out. HANDS OFF, let it move about if it wants too.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:09 PM   #11
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Important questions: "Is it quiet?" "Does the Hurst shifter have hard neoprene bushings?"

I recently upgraded to a short throw shifter in my non-Camaro. I LOVE IT! It's silky-smooth, precise and, most importantly - reduced the throw by over 50%.

BUT... the hard bushings create a direct path for vibration to enter the interior. It doesn't rattle; it just creates an "amplifier" for all the stuff you don't necessarily want to hear.

The first time I turned the key, the sound of the starter was so loud I wasn't sure I was in MY car. I can now hear the sound of the engine and where I used to faintly hear the exhaust tone from the rear of the car at 80 MPH, I now hear it loudly coming from "everywhere" at all speeds. I can hear the engine and every noise from the transmission (not a very pretty sound.) Thankfully a replacement is in transit - live and learn!

So... be careful with an aftermarket shifter. Sound may be the last thing on your mind, but it may be important to you.
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I didn't notice that much "other" noise when we put the hurst in our 2007 GT. It is a tad louder since the rubber bushings are gone but didn't notice all that other stuff you talked about...
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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I didn't notice that much "other" noise when we put the hurst in our 2007 GT. It is a tad louder since the rubber bushings are gone but didn't notice all that other stuff you talked about...
maybe the after-market shifter you used didn't come with the bionic ear option.

Seriously though, when I test drove a Roush Mustang Stage 3, I absolutely loved the shifter.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #14
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Seriously though, when I test drove a Roush Mustang Stage 3, I absolutely loved the shifter.
That's what I was going for, but the aftermarket Roush isn't exactly the same. Feels like it, just doesn't "sound" like it!
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:20 PM   #15
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I listen to my radio all the time, so I don't think noise will be a huge issue for me.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:44 AM   #16
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I listen to my radio all the time, so I don't think noise will be a huge issue for me.
Umm... unless you really crank up the radio loud, you'll hear it. There's more mechanical noise and transmission noise now. That's my kind of music so it doesn't bother me but if you like a quiet interior while you listen to the radio the Hurst shifter allows more mechanical noise inside than the stock one.

You might be able to Dynamat some of that out if it's too much for you. Or what I may be doing is replacing the trans fluid with Royal Purple which on my RX8 made a startling difference in the interior noise; much much quieter with RP in it. I have to check into the gear lube requirements for the trans and diff.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:52 PM   #17
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Has anybody tried the stock knob on the other stick that comes with the hurst billet 2 hurst to see if that helps? I've noticed the stock knob is weithed pretty good and has rubber iso,s inside! I like the look of the classic stick but would settle for the leather knob on the hurst shifter if it takes that little jingle out!
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I didn't measure the height difference between the 2 when I installed the Hurst but I did immediatly notice that the Hurst is a little higher than stock. I too get the clunky 3rd gear but I was getting that before the Hurst went in, but now is a little more pronounced with the Hurst. As far as noise goes there's no issue, only when holding it so I try not to do that, just let it go and keep hands off in between shifts!
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Has anybody tried the stock knob on the other stick that comes with the hurst billet 2 hurst to see if that helps? I've noticed the stock knob is weithed pretty good and has rubber iso,s inside! I like the look of the classic stick but would settle for the leather knob on the hurst shifter if it takes that little jingle out!
If your talking about the OEM knob then yes, there is no noise i tried it for a week or so.
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I put Royal Purple Synchromax in the trans and their Maxgear in the diff and it made a very noticeable difference in the sound levels inside the car, just as it did in my RX8. I hear a little bit of gear noise if I have my hand on the shifter but otherwise it's fairly quiet; especially compared to how it sounded before I changed the fluids.

After using this now for about a year, I can't imagine the car without it.
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Mine came with a noise kit. didn't use it. If there is rattle i can't here it.
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