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Old 10-27-2009, 03:48 PM   #1
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Hurst short throw shifter or Airaid CAI?

If you had the option to get a Hurst short throw shifter or an Airaid intake for your manual transmission V6, which would you choose first and why?

Cost isn't really part of the question, as they are roughly the same price.
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:44 PM   #2
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Airaid CAI because the added 14ftlbs of torque feels sweet plus im quite used to my shifter after 1500 miles. It feels much smoother now with some breakin miles on it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:00 PM   #3
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Definitely intake. Performance gains are worth more than a shifter.
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Airaid CAI because the added 14ftlbs of torque feels sweet plus im quite used to my shifter after 1500 miles. It feels much smoother now with some breakin miles on it.
Does anyone have any independent testing to show this? Jannetty Racing did a shootout of CAIs for the V8s and the biggest torque gain of any of the CAIs tested was 10 ft/lbs... Airaid came in at 6 ft/lbs... I doubt the the V6 would show more of a gain than the V8...

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Old 10-27-2009, 06:12 PM   #5
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Does anyone have any independent testing to show this? Jannetty Racing did a shootout of CAIs for the V8s and the biggest torque gain of any of the CAIs tested was 10 ft/lbs... Airaid came in at 6 ft/lbs... I doubt the the V6 would show more of a gain than the V8...

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Old 10-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #6
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If you had the option to get a Hurst short throw shifter or an Airaid intake for your manual transmission V6, which would you choose first and why?

Cost isn't really part of the question, as they are roughly the same price.
I say get the HURST.... when I had my SRT4 the best mod i ever did for it was the Short Shifter. . . I have my hurst sitting on the box... need to install it.
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:44 PM   #7
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Does anyone else see a pattern forming here?
We get quite a lot of buzz on modification-a or b, then we all agree to wait for documentation on the performance gains and they never seem to appear.
We are waiting for info on several exhaust systems, headers, cai's, etc.
Then again, perhaps it's just me...
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:59 PM   #8
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Does anyone else see a pattern forming here?
We get quite a lot of buzz on modification-a or b, then we all agree to wait for documentation on the performance gains and they never seem to appear.
We are waiting for info on several exhaust systems, headers, cai's, etc.
Then again, perhaps it's just me...
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I've done two "self" mods... both have been dyno'd... LOL! Still not sure what CAI to go with but will dyno that too.... I buy dyno time in bulk! LOL!
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:22 PM   #10
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:29 PM   #11
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I'm on the wait for the Cold Air Inductions intake kit I ordered and I just ordered my Hurst shifter today..... It's only money.
I drove a Camaro with this shifter and I had to have it after the first shift from 2nd to 3rd. although power is good! 50/50
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:07 PM   #12
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"Seat of the pants" tells me there is a gain. Im not going to put my car on a dyno so I cant say for sure. I just threw out the number given by Airaid. Maybe one of you that goes to the drag strip can confirm
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:13 PM   #13
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"Seat of the pants" tells me there is a gain. Im not going to put my car on a dyno so I cant say for sure. I just threw out the number given by Airaid. Maybe one of you that goes to the drag strip can confirm
drag strip has a lot of variables... best thing would be to do a test like Jannetty...

That being said will hopefully get to the track at least one more time before they close for the season... hmmmmmm... LOL
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:27 PM   #14
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So John, help us non gearheads out...the Jannetty tests say that Fastlane's was the best for HP and TQ gains? and what does the 15 Fuel trim mean?
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:44 PM   #15
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If you had the option to get a Hurst short throw shifter or an Airaid intake for your manual transmission V6, which would you choose first and why?

Cost isn't really part of the question, as they are roughly the same price.
Geez rolnson, you win $500 and now you need help spending it? I gave you a "GREAT" suggestion but seriously I would get the shifter.
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Old 10-28-2009, 04:27 AM   #16
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So John, help us non gearheads out...the Jannetty tests say that Fastlane's was the best for HP and TQ gains? and what does the 15 Fuel trim mean?
Basically mean the MAF sensor is reporting LESS air than is really going into the engine. This means the car is running LEAN so the computer has to ADD fuel (15% in this case).

Read Ted's post carefully:

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Old 10-28-2009, 08:18 AM   #17
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I think I got it now...after reading it twice...in which case, my vote would go for getting the shifter, then saving up another $400 to get the air intake from Fastlane...especially since you are here in Houston.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:00 AM   #18
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Geez rolnson, you win $500 and now you need help spending it? I gave you a "GREAT" suggestion but seriously I would get the shifter.
You absolutely had a great suggestion but West Coast Camaro doesn't stock that stuff so I'm on to plan B.



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I think I got it now...after reading it twice...in which case, my vote would go for getting the shifter, then saving up another $400 to get the air intake from Fastlane...especially since you are here in Houston.

Given the minimal gains seen with the CAI kits, I'm thinking the Hurst shifter is the better choice right now too. I know that Fastlane realizes the market potential for V6 parts so I think waiting to see what they put together for the V6 would be the best thing to do.
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:27 AM   #19
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So does a CAI reduce the MPG on the camaro??
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:42 AM   #20
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i dont just get the cai for the power increase, i think it helps the sound of the engine and exhaust sound waayyyy better!
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I've done two "self" mods... both have been dyno'd... LOL! Still not sure what CAI to go with but will dyno that too.... I buy dyno time in bulk! LOL!
Would you just get the damn intake and test it already? We count on you!! :p
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So far, scrming's been the best source of data produced from actual testing, for us all. For that, we are very thankful.
I think all I'm saying here is that the people designing these aftermarket parts have not yet figured out how to make their modifications produce more power, or better fuel economy, or whatever they are shooting for. I'm sure they are testing the mods, but my conjecture is that they are not getting the results they want... yet or we'd be hearing all about it.
Again, I could be completely wrong on this and am just throwing my two cents out there.
In the mean time, it is not wrong to want an exhaust system or a CAI or whatever mod for it's cosmetic appeal, for the improvement in the way the car sounds, or whatever makes us happy.
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CAI. The stock shifter works well enough and the CAI is going to add some power and look better under the hood than the stock unit.
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Would you just get the damn intake and test it already? We count on you!! :p
LOL! I've had them in my shopping cart a number of times... just can't seem to pull the trigger! LOL!
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So far, scrming's been the best source of data produced from actual testing, for us all. For that, we are very thankful.
I think all I'm saying here is that the people designing these aftermarket parts have not yet figured out how to make their modifications produce more power, or better fuel economy, or whatever they are shooting for. I'm sure they are testing the mods, but my conjecture is that they are not getting the results they want... yet or we'd be hearing all about it.
Again, I could be completely wrong on this and am just throwing my two cents out there.
In the mean time, it is not wrong to want an exhaust system or a CAI or whatever mod for it's cosmetic appeal, for the improvement in the way the car sounds, or whatever makes us happy.
That is true! There are other things to considering adding a CAI... Looks and sound are factors too!
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