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Old 10-29-2009, 06:59 PM   #1
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Guys with HURST SHifters

I like the short throws but it seems quite hard to push the lever into each gear. If you are driving fast and hard its easy to miss a shift.

I am not used to this type of arrangement coming from BMW and Porsche cars which are silky smooth.

Just wondered are there adjustments on the linkage or can it be this way because its so new and needs to wear in?

Has anyone noticed smoother shifting over time and if so how many miles need to be racked on before I notice a change?
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #2
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If your looking for silky smooth stick to boxers. The Camaro with the Hurst is a MACHINE!! No seriously, you probably won't like the hurst it's very "race". Try the MGW shifter.
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Old 10-29-2009, 07:13 PM   #3
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Mgw will be a smoother more refined shift...but it will be a longer throw.
The hurst is very "clicky" if you know what I mean by that. Each one has their benefits, and it is totally a personal preference of shift style if you ask me.

I am actually tryign to figure out which one I am going to use, so I know how hard the decision is.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:02 AM   #4
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HURST was installed prior to delivery and it was the first one the dealer installed so I had no idea on adjustments or the nature of it.

I got it for the cool factor and I do like it. I am not driving this car like a lunatic anyway so for now its fine. Considering how the car doesnt like my driving downshifts or style I think I need to adapt a new technique all together for now and save the fast spirited driving for my 911 and BMW M5

MGW looks neat but has been out of stock for weeks and I didnt want to wait. The OEM shifter SUCKS and It wasnt even an option for me to wait.


I just feel funny putting so much force in my shifts I hate to break something down there. Im sure over time I will decide if I love it or hate it.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:06 AM   #5
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It was posted on another thread but dont know if the shifter is getting smoother or Im getting use to it.
Anyway I think you have 2 options:
Want to have shorter and faster shifts go with hurst

if you want smooth, refined etc keep the stock one (actually its very good)

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Old 10-30-2009, 08:22 AM   #6
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So for those of us who think the stock shifter feels like a "wet noodle":

Would the Hurst or MGW be better? I'm thinking Hurst.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:19 AM   #7
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After watching KILLERZ video of going through the gears on his new hurst in his SS, you can hear the click, which I like, but it seems like he puts barely any effort into shifting gears. To me it looks like a flick of the wrist and it changes gears? Do you guys agree?
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:20 AM   #8
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MGW movement


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Old 10-30-2009, 09:24 AM   #9
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KILLER74Z28, do you have to put much force into switching gears? From your vid it looks like you could do it with one finger, but seeing is not feeling.
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KILLER74Z28, do you have to put much force into switching gears? From your vid it looks like you could do it with one finger, but seeing is not feeling.
It does not take much force at all. It's a more positive feel than stock but that's a good thing... You really can shift with the flick of your wrist. The shifter really does make it impossible to miss a gear.

I went with the Hurst because it was first to market, 44% shorter, has an awesome “Old School” look, and is a great performance shifter. I also like the fact that I can now tell people Yeah, it’s got a Hurst… I’ve always wanted to be able to say that.

Now, had MGW had their shifter out faster I may have gone that way. From all the Vids George has posted I can really tell that his shifter is top notch. I really like how MGW replaces the stock mounting bracket and their shifter is adjustable to fine tune to your driving habits. I plan on finding a camaro5 member who has the MGW shifter installed and asking them if I can check it out.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:30 AM   #11
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I like the Hurst better than the stock shifter for sure. I've had mine for about a month and have 300 miles on it. It feels a little smoother but it could be I'm getting used to it. The only trouble I have is downshifting from 5th to 4th sometimes it wants to go back to 6th instead. The click (or clunk) to me has more to do with the gear box than the shifter imo. I'd like to see a vid of the MGW to compare to Killer's Hurst vid.
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I wish MGW had a slightly shorter throw. It seems a little smoother and refined looking in my opinion. I am just hoping they can make me one for my project with a slightly shorter throw.

We shall see....
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:36 AM   #13
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Guy i have 16,000 mi on my shifter and its not hard to shift it at all, I use the palm of my hand for shifting in to 3 and 5 and the tips of my fingers to go in to 2 and 4 and 6 and yes i still have the click.
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It does not take much force at all. It's a more positive feel than stock but that's a good thing... You really can shift with the flick of your wrist. The shifter really does make it impossible to miss a gear.

I went with the Hurst because it was first to market, 44% shorter, has an awesome “Old School” look, and is a great performance shifter. I also like the fact that I can now tell people Yeah, it’s got a Hurst… I’ve always wanted to be able to say that.

Now, had MGW had their shifter out faster I may have gone that way. From all the Vids George has posted I can really tell that his shifter is top notch. I really like how MGW replaces the stock mounting bracket and their shifter is adjustable to fine tune to your driving habits. I plan on finding a camaro5 member who has the MGW shifter installed and asking them if I can check it out.
I'm putting the Hurst in my car very soon for the exact reasons mentioned above!
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:10 AM   #15
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I wish MGW had a slightly shorter throw. It seems a little smoother and refined looking in my opinion. I am just hoping they can make me one for my project with a slightly shorter throw.

We shall see....
I don't have one yet but from what George from MGW has posted the throw is adjustable, so maybe you can get it to throw as short as a Hurst. MGW posted that they adjusted the throw to a certain point to keep it smooth and the shorter the throw the more notchy it will be. I had a Hurst in my 2007 Mustang GT that I traded in for my Camaro so I know what one feels like, I liked the old school look but I'm over that and would rather have smooth and solid shifter this time around. Plus I don't like that the Hurst replacement isn't the whole shifter but only part of it, expensive for what you get. JMHO

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Old 10-30-2009, 02:31 PM   #16
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UPDATE: I drove 150 miles today and for sure the HURST it breaking in. The first to second feels much better now.

Still 3rd is a bit tricky i was flying like a nut and missed 3rd and it was ugly.

I think things will get better and from a COOL factor you cant beat the HURST. its the first thing everyone sees when they look inside.


Now I need to get rid of the stupid skip shift issue next week, that is annoying.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:31 PM   #17
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I don't have one yet but from what George from MGW has posted the throw is adjustable, so maybe you can get it to throw as short as a Hurst. MGW posted that they adjusted the throw to a certain point to keep it smooth and the shorter the throw the more notchy it will be. I had a Hurst in my 2007 Mustang GT that I traded in for my Camaro so I know what one feels like, I liked the old school look but I'm over that and would rather have smooth and solid shifter this time around. Plus I don't like that the Hurst replacement isn't the whole shifter but only part of it, expensive for what you get. JMHO
the adjustable throw will not be as short as the hurst. I'm sure its a nice shifter though. Also, the hurst unit incorporates what a replacement shifter needs and doesnt replace what's not .
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:50 PM   #18
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I also have the Hurst and love it. I do get a bit of noise, It's more old school and I like that. Too each his own. The MGW does look like a good stock replacement as well, but the Hurst in my opinion looks better in the car.
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:06 PM   #19
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I really want the Hurst shifter but I just know MGW is better quality : (((
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:51 PM   #20
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For anyone on the fence on what to buy.

I can say this and with good merrit. The MGW may be a superior shifter which is great but I dont care who is driving you can not drive the Camaro agressive to the point of killing the gears like on a Porsche 997 GT3 RS car it just will not happen. The cars dynamics will make you wipe out in the rear end easily and the gearbox isnt as smooth as the ones coming out of Europe in my opinion.

I can smash 1-4 gears in a Audi, BMW or Porsche any day. I am struggling in my Camaro so I am just cruising around behaving and enjoying it for whats it worth.

I kinda knew that even after driving these cars with 5k in suspension mods that I wont be driving it like my Porsche.

In that respect get the HURST because of its nostalgic look, clunky noise and cool factor+ the added efort to drive makes it more involving. I am actually proud to have this HURST in my car because I had one in my 69 SS/RS that I sold recently (what a handful that car was)so I could buy the 2010 Camaro.

Cool Factor SOLD!
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:38 PM   #21
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way cool!
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:54 AM   #22
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I installed the Hurst on my 454 LS7 Camaro and its great! Best mod to date......


OK the 454 LS7 was a nice mod too.
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