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Old 07-11-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Allocation - A word from Camaro Scotty

It is true every dealer will have an allocation of New Camaro's. No one knows how many they will receive right now.

While I'd LIKE to give everyone here a New Camaro at THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE, We'll only have so many cars we can deliver. I am not one of the "other guys" that will take a deposit, knowing we will not be able to deliver. I am confident we have room now, and when I can't take any more, I will be honest and say so.

To sit on 100 deposits and find out you will only get 30 or 40 cars is misleading and dissapointing to the other 60 people waiting. Many Dodge dealers did just this on the Challenger - and those people left in the cold are now looking at the Camaro.

We will be as accomodating as our allocation allows. We promise to be fair, fun, and competitive with pricing! We will dealer trade when possible. but we will not knowingly mislead and be deceptive in order to get a deposit. I'm sure we'll run out of allocation. Many will the first few months. But it is nice to see many people have a different timeline for buying their new Camaro. We will work with you when the time is right for you! The sooner you let me know, the better chance I have at getting a car for you.

We don't brag to be the biggest, just one of the best. Someone once said, "It's not the quantity, it's the QUALITY"

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Thank you, Scotty! We're proud of our association with Newman Chevy!
All the information Scotty was giving already was making the place intriguing, but this is the best endorsement yet.
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Thank you for being honest Scotty - many dealerships aren't. I do understand the allocation of cars - but what about ordering? Is it possible for anyone to order the car how they want without worrying about the numbers allocated to each dealer since they are ordering from the factory? I plan on ordering mine so I get everything exactly how I want rather than having a pick on the lot and getting/losing items not needed or wanted.
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Thank you for being honest Scotty - many dealerships aren't. I do understand the allocation of cars - but what about ordering? Is it possible for anyone to order the car how they want without worrying about the numbers allocated to each dealer since they are ordering from the factory? I plan on ordering mine so I get everything exactly how I want rather than having a pick on the lot and getting/losing items not needed or wanted.
If we order for a customer or for the lot, it comes out of our allocation that they will set. Like I said, the sooner you know the better. I will be able to build out a car to your specs and send you a copy of the build. Once approved, a deposit is placed (unless you want a guaranteed spot in our first round of order allocation, then I'd make a deposit now) and your car is ordered. It should arrive 4-7 weeks later. Given my love for the car, and these two forums I watch, one would guess it would be a while before we have cars sitting on the lot available for immediate sale. That doesn't bother me at all - that time will come soon enough.

If at the time of purchase there are lot cars out there in the config you're looking for, we can try trading for them. That's a hard trade since most dealers want a car back like the one they're trading for.....UNLESS we have something THEY want - that causes flexibilty, and they may give it up so both dealers have a win-win deal.
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How would delivery to a local dealer work?

Meaning if I decided to go with you to order a car and I live in NJ, how would you get it to me or would you require me to fly and pick it up or make my own shipping?
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Proud doesn't even come close to describing how cool it is, when someone on the salesfloor can communicate with someone involved in a cars design. Or when that person communicates like Scott has with the many people reading the Camaro forums.

I'm just glad to be a part of the same team!
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How would delivery to a local dealer work?

Meaning if I decided to go with you to order a car and I live in NJ, how would you get it to me or would you require me to fly and pick it up or make my own shipping?
That, or we can see if we can arrange a drop ship at your local dealer. That dealer would then charge you for the Predelivery inspection. But that should be cheaper than shipping the car to you.

If you want to fly in and drive back, we'll pick you up at the airport & bring you to the dealership for the final paperwork - NOT A PROBLEM!
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CamaroScotty - I also appreciate your honesty and you easily jumped on my list for a dealer to check out. You've been straight with us and trying to help us Camaro fans, that is a big deal.

Thank you and if I don't make your first allocation, I'm ok with the 2nd wave to get a fair deal from a good-hearted dealership.
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Well, just scratched a NW Suburban town that was #1 on my list before Camaro Scotty showed up.

They emailed me back last night when I asked if I was still on their "list" as promised and if they were going to sell at MSRP or close to it.

"When the Camaro finally arrives it will been very limited. We have a first several already assigned to close dealership friends and employees."

This after corresponding with the guy back in November and reminding him how my dad purchased all his Chevy's from him. Guess that means nothing to this dealership. Hoskins Chevy in Elk Grove, IL for those that are interested.
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Well, just scratched a NW Suburban town that was #1 on my list before Camaro Scotty showed up.

They emailed me back last night when I asked if I was still on their "list" as promised and if they were going to sell at MSRP or close to it.

"When the Camaro finally arrives it will been very limited. We have a first several already assigned to close dealership friends and employees."

This after corresponding with the guy back in November and reminding him how my dad purchased all his Chevy's from him. Guess that means nothing to this dealership. Hoskins Chevy in Elk Grove, IL for those that are interested.
Sorry to hear that. We have no friends (doesn't sound good does it....) that we are promising our allocation to. I am confident we have room for more deposits on our first round - without becoming that QUANTITY deposit dealer we read about...If I can't get you on round one, we'll work on the next. Your flexibilty means a lot to us, and hopefully we can make it worth your while.

Too bad I don't get an allocation for everyone that would love to business with us!
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Question Scotty: Does Wisconsin mandate front license plates? I plan on buying and picking up my car from a state that doesn't and driving it home so I don't have holes in my front bumber after I take that damed bracket off. I wouldn't mind a road trip from WI to CA especially since you've recieved the ultimate thumbs up from FBF.
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Yikes! For the cost of gas from WI to CA, you could get a professional to fill the holes. For a fraction of that cost, you could bribe a dirty dealer to zip-tie the bracket instead of screwing it. For free, you might convince a decent dealer that you're going to install it yourself and that they shouldn't put holes in the bumper...
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I may be totally missing something here. Why are they allocating a certain number of cars per dealer? Why don't they take orders from all who order? It has just been said that the magic number is 800,000 units per year to keep the car onthe table, then they limit sales. Dosen't make sense to me. If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
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If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
I'm pretty sure GM allocates based on those points you mentioned above; who can sell more of the cars as opposed to another. They learned from the GTO sales how to do it wrong...so I'm confident they'll get it right this time as far as who could sell the most.

I think I remember reading (not sure) CamaroScotty saying that after the first couple rounds of allotments, it'll turn into a free-for-all.
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Yikes! For the cost of gas from WI to CA, you could get a professional to fill the holes. For a fraction of that cost, you could bribe a dirty dealer to zip-tie the bracket instead of screwing it. For free, you might convince a decent dealer that you're going to install it yourself and that they shouldn't put holes in the bumper...
but the drive would be priceless! plus who wants uneccessary BONDO on their new Camaro?!?
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I may be totally missing something here. Why are they allocating a certain number of cars per dealer? Why don't they take orders from all who order? It has just been said that the magic number is 800,000 units per year to keep the car onthe table, then they limit sales. Dosen't make sense to me. If a dealer dosen't have a lot of sales through the year, he won't get many Camaros, but he has 500 people wanting the car. Dealer 2 sales 6000 cars a year and gets a big allotment of Camaros, but that is not the type of car he has big sales on. Just sell the car to anyone who orders, first come, first served.
800k? thats waaayyy to high. Camaro sales are estimated at ~100k.
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Question Scotty: Does Wisconsin mandate front license plates? I plan on buying and picking up my car from a state that doesn't and driving it home so I don't have holes in my front bumber after I take that damed bracket off. I wouldn't mind a road trip from WI to CA especially since you've recieved the ultimate thumbs up from FBF.
Yes Wisconsin does. Do we whip out the Black n Decker to pop holes in CORVETTES? - H*LL NO!!!!!!

The Camaro will come with a front plate "kit" to the states requiring a front plate. The dealership installs them IF REQUESTED TO DO SO ONLY!

Like the Corvette, your Camaro will include that kit IN THE TRUNK, Unless you request to have it installed.

We'll also PASS on the dealer decal on the back. It doesn't go on VETTES, it AIN'T going on the CAMARO!
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I'm pretty sure GM allocates based on those points you mentioned above; who can sell more of the cars as opposed to another. They learned from the GTO sales how to do it wrong...so I'm confident they'll get it right this time as far as who could sell the most.

I think I remember reading (not sure) CamaroScotty saying that after the first couple rounds of allotments, it'll turn into a free-for-all.
That's still how I understand it....The Malibu started the same way -

And when open allocation starts, I expect every dealer to become even more price competitive, including us! Even those Camaro forum jumpers who in the next few weeks that will decide they better start talking to the people looking for theses cars...They'll all of a sudden want to be Camaro salesmen. BUT, if they had the passion & the love for the car and it's history, wouldn't they have been here already?
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