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Old 07-17-2008, 05:14 AM   #576
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Please don't have a freak out You wouldn't want to scare Shunt any more than he already is now would we.. You know what I recommend, going over to your local Sharper Image and sitting in one of those massage chairs and relaxing for an hour or two.. Listen to some Yanni or other elevator music and your set to return to this site and take a few more bumper insults without a freak out episode..
Whew that did help! Or maybe it was the Dr. Phil. Thanks!
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:32 AM   #577
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We worked so much harder than you armchair critics can possibly imagine to make it look as good as possible and as close to the concept as possible .
I understand you being pissed off by critics, however, I don't think some arguments like you or Fbod used (such as "how many cars have you engineer in the past?") a receivable ones.

This is like an actor saying to a newspaper for a bad critic "you have never made a movie, so shut up". I can understand that, but I'm sure you have probably made some criticisms towards some players during the last superbowl, last nba finals or something. And you did that even if you have never played NBA finals nor a superbowl.

So take it easy, whiners are people who want the best for this car, thus they are interested in your job. Even if you get criticism, you get attention to your work. And yeah, whiners are customers too.

Here ends this off topic post

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Old 07-17-2008, 07:56 AM   #578
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Hey all, and welcome to the Camaro5.com chat forums, here are some basic rules we should all try to live by

1) Respect. By far the most important rule here. Through the generations of Camaros, enthusiasts have come together for the love of the car and the community (in fact, the name "Camaro" means "friend, pal, or comrade"). So, the basic rules of real life apply here, show each other respect and you will get respect as well. Don't bash someone else here because you feel like it. Personally insulting other members will not be tolerated.

2) Disagree, don't attack. Disagree on topics, but try to leave it at that. Just because you don't like someones opinion on the car's engine, doesn't mean you should call him and his mother all sorts of names Disagreements are fine, and you should feel free to express your difference of opinion, but don't go out of your way to insult and flame someone. Please consider if you would say to someone's face the same thing you are posting.

4) Help. Be helpful, we are all probably here because of a question and people will go out of their way to help you. Try to do the same if you have the answer to a question posted. Camaro enthusiasts have to stick together. If you think not telling others about some technical info you have will make you and your car unique and prefer to be unique rather than share this information, then this forum is not for you. Help each other with questions and answers and I guarantee you, one day you will be helped out in kind here.

These rules will be enforced but only to improve everyone's stay here In the end, we're all enthusiasts here, so help each other out !
Keeping with the theme of being helpful, I just wanted to point out that typically 3 follows 2.
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:30 AM   #579
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Keeping with the theme of being helpful, I just wanted to point out that typically 3 follows 2.
I know, but that is rule 4, not 3, which is in the rules thread. You do not need to know what rule 3 is for now...
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:39 AM   #580
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For someone this one looks bigger than the silver one...
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Old 07-17-2008, 03:04 PM   #581
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I figured i'd put my "detailed" two cents in

Pics 1 & 2
. They both kinda seem like they're at an odd angle to me, I LOVE how aggressive the quarter is!
I'd take the headlights but prefer halos
Grill,ehh i'm sure they'll be an option a little more my style
Wheels, They are pretty sharp

Pic3.In my opinion the rear of this car is a home run! at first I wished the reverse lights would just"go away" but they are growing on me
Obviously the hitch and tail light colors will change...Looks great

Pic 4. Tint the windows and tell people to keep their hands off the car
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:54 PM   #582
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Not true, there are TONS of bumps under 5mph. You just don't notice them because the 5mph standard says there has to be NO damage from such a collision. You'd sure notice if you backed into a wall or a pole or another car or whatever and found $550 worth of damage to your trunk lid and rear window because your bumper had no lip. And you'd sure notice a LOT higher insurance payment every month too if we didn't meet that standard. Now everyone stop asking about the rear bumper or I'm going to freak out.





That question sure proves that it's not as bad as you whiners are making it out to be. I bet most people would NEVER notice that lip and half of the people that see it would like it. We've told you 100x that NOTHING was changed on a whim and you still act like we just got bored with the original design or decided that the fans weren't worth seeing it through. We worked so much harder than you armchair critics can possibly imagine to make it look as good as possible and as close to the concept as possible and I sincerely hope that if you don't like it that you never even see one, let alone have the privilege of owning one. You'd think we made it look like a Malibu Max for God's sake. A one inch wide lip on the bottom of the bumper is what you're complaining about.
this is just unacceptable vocabulary to use on potential customers and fanbase

i mean i'm not too mad about the lower lip i'll just change it in the aftermarket and well take the chance if i get hit under 5mph...

but you didn't have to be so derogatory about it...we appreciate the work you did but nobody is ever free from criticism and everybody has a right to be heard, as an artist or designer you have to accept that...and not be so sensitive to the criticism...
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:28 PM   #583
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Seriously, this thread needs to be closed. I want to come read it to see others opinions not who is a whiner and who is not....

and if a recall someone called him lame, so that is even more derogatory.

give it up already.

everyone should be putting all of their energy towards monday and being excited.
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:24 PM   #584
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this is just unacceptable vocabulary to use on potential customers and fanbase

i mean i'm not too mad about the lower lip i'll just change it in the aftermarket and well take the chance if i get hit under 5mph...

but you didn't have to be so derogatory about it...we appreciate the work you did but nobody is ever free from criticism and everybody has a right to be heard, as an artist or designer you have to accept that...and not be so sensitive to the criticism...
LET IT GO! It's been addressed.
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:30 PM   #585
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LET IT GO! It's been addressed.
well i haven't posted here in 2 days..

well either way camero has probably been stressed and from what i saw with the slater show i'm very impressed with the work they have done...

afterburners please please please
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:40 PM   #586
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well i haven't posted here in 2 days..

well either way camero has probably been stressed and from what i saw with the slater show i'm very impressed with the work they have done...

afterburners please please please
sorry just want everyone to drop that whole thing because it has been addressed and just needs to be let go.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:00 PM   #587
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sorry just want everyone to drop that whole thing because it has been addressed and just needs to be let go.
no problem
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #588
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Sorry. I apologize for offending forum members as I went too far when answering the bumper question yet again. Please forgive me and forget it. I'm clearly not a rep of GM, just an anonymous designer posting on a forum which is probably inappropriate anyway for reasons that have now become obvious to me. It won't happen again. Thanks for all the kind words dudes, and I hope you like your Camaro as much as I'll like mine. :-]
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For the person asking, this is what I'm referring too. On the concept, the sweep underneath (on the rear,) is similar to the vette, and creates a sweeping under/forward line to the entire car. On the prepros, the bumper no longer swings under, it swings downward, and it appears, even slightly backwards, changing the swing under/forward line of the entire car. I see it as a very big change.

I realize the photo angles are slightly different, but that's the way I see it, and it's a little dissappointing, as the rear is the number one reason I fell in love with the concept.
Terror, I'm gonna have to agree... The tail was one of the main reasons I liked the concept so much... but what can you do man? The worst possible case is that its dissapoingting but its very understandable. I can tell that huge masses are going to buy this car and GM has to protect them with all these safety changes.

Since less people buy the Corvette compared to the Camaro (Price Range), GM can justify having that smooth tail it has, which was very similar to the Concept Camaro. In theory, if the Camaro was priced in the range of a Corvette, I guarantee you that that tail end of the Concept would be the production version, because its almost exactly like the Corvette.

I'm thinking since there will be so many Camaros out there, Camaros are the one who are most likey to get into an acciedent, and thats the justification for all the lips on the car.

... but I don't know, just speculating.
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You put words into his mouth, if you are going to quote someone make sure you get it right.

what camero said.
I hope that if you don't like it that you never even see one, let alone have the privilege of owning one.

what you said
I hope you never even have the privilege of seeing it

We are PRIVILEDGED to have people like him come on this board, and give us his thoughts.

Give your opinion then shut the #$$% up! No need to argue and argue and argue. What does it solve? Just because you bitch do you think that it will be changed? no.

Having people like him on the board, makes me want to even more go give my money to gm! I am pleased to even beable to type to someone that had any hand in designing this car.

I for one hope that you are banned. Driving a way someone of importance to this board should be a great reason for that.

go buy a dodge.

thank you and have a nice day.
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I have a legitament question here. Now, I don't want anyone getting mad or anything, I'm only curious about the design.

So, to the designers:

You know how half way down the back bumper there is that lip... well was it attempted to extend the whole piece of the bumper out instead of just the bottom half. That whole concept bumper is one piece... why not make the whole piece just " 1 inch thicker/longer" instead of making the bottom half 1 inch thicker/longer?

In this way, you keep the smooth end of the bumper (like the concept) but you also get the benefits of the 5mph crash-worthiness. With either bumper, if you get rear ended you'll have to replace the WHOLE bumper piece, just like you would if you had the concept bumper. Now, this is assuming that the lower extended piece in the back is ONE WHOLE PIECE, and not just something attached to the back end.

I really don't know if my questions make any sence... just let me know.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:27 PM   #592
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You could spit venom!?!?!?! I'm destroying my desk right now for all the hitting I'm doing reading these Incredibly CHILDISH responses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, Camero is NOT a rep for GM on this site: He is no ambassador. He's a person. Like you, like me, and he just so happens to work on the car. In other words, he's not bound by the company to provide kind and fluffy responses to your complaints. So kudos to those of you who pissed him off because of it. Congrats.

Secondly, and I can't believe I'm even writing this to members of this forum....The last few pages or so have been completely wrapped up in people whining (YES, at this point, it's WHINING!) about a FREAKING BUMPER!!!!! I'm unbelievably dissapointed that such a trifle thing could possibly carry on for such a long period of time. Everybody wanted the gas cap, nobody wanted a B-pillar, and for similar reasons there are different bumpers. Compound that with the fact that the reasons for changing it have been explained a thousand times over to everyone here by TWO people who WORKED on it! So, like everybody has done for the aforementioned concerns; I advise you to GET OVER IT.

If several comments about liking the car despite the bumper issue hold true, then it really shouldn't be too hard to do.



I thought for a while that the good nature of the people on this forum would win over like it usually does, and the whining and bickering back and forth would stop. I can't believe it didn't. A fact that pains me as I write this.

So thread closed, and no other will start up like this again, I can promise you all that.



a note; this is not targeted at everyone who took part in these conversations. There have been many well crafted, legitimate questions asked, and concerns voiced. But as it were, the few ruined it for the many. I also apologize to anyone who may not have had a question of theirs answered. There will no doubt be a questions thread after the Camaro's debut video; so feel free to ask them there.
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